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How does the gravity theory fit into actual observation?

 
 
Sat 27 May, 2023 11:56 pm
How does the gravity theory fit into actual observation that there are multiple big bangs and big crunches happening all over the universe at varying timescales?

It doesn’t.

The gravity theory predicted a single Big Bang and Big Crunch.

As observations are proving that this isn’t possible and never was possible then this proves that the gravity theory always was a load of nonsense.

So the single Big Bang/Big Crunch theory is dead and the theory that predicted it is dead also.
 
The Anointed
 
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Sun 28 May, 2023 03:35 am
@Jasper10,
The greater majority of cosmologists consider the Big Bang model of the universe to be the best explanation for the Cosmic Micro-wave Background radiation by which they have determined that this universe is about 13.8 billion years old.

We know that the early universe was much smaller and much, much hotter and, within seconds after the Big Bang, the glowing white-hot fog of interacting plasma of photons, electrons, and baryons began to cool as the universe expanded, causing the energy density of the plasma to decrease until it became possible for electrons to combine with the protons forming hydrogen atoms, from which, after some thirty million years of gravitational attraction, came the formation of the first-generation gigantic stars, [Massive atomic reactors] from which the galaxies would later be created.

And God said, ‘Let there be light.’ Which was not the light from the sun of this minor solar system within our Milky Way galaxy, which solar system would not be created for some nine billion years after the creation of those first massive stars that lit up the darkness of the bottomless pit, in which massive nuclear reactors the heavier elements were created.

Bursting into life and light throughout the primitive universe over an unknown period of time, those First-Generation Hydrogen stars would have been thousands upon thousands of times as massive as our Sun and millions of times as bright, but each one burned for only a few million years before meeting a violent end, when they exploded out in a brilliant flash before collapsing in upon themselves creating the massive centrally condensed systems called ‘Black Holes.’

Those Supernova, which have been and are continuing to explode throughout this expanding universe that began with the ‘Big Bang’ some 13.8 billion years ago, must be those minor bangs that you are referring to that are occurring throughout the heavens of this still expanding universe, that science believes originated from a singularity about 13.8 billion years ago.

God is calling all creation back to himself, before creating for us a new heavens and a new earth, this calling of all creation back into the singularity from which it originated, is known as the Big Crunch, after which there will be another B.B, and another expanding universe.
steve reid
 
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Sun 28 May, 2023 03:39 am
@Jasper10,
Jasper10 wrote:

As observations are proving that this isn’t possible and never was possible.......

What observations ?, when, where and by who ?

Please can you provide examples of these observations Jasper, or links to where I can read about them

Thank you
steve reid
 
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Sun 28 May, 2023 05:14 am
@The Anointed,
The Anointed wrote:
And God said, ‘Let there be light.’

The Anointed wrote:
......stars that lit up the darkness of the bottomless pit......

The Anointed wrote:
......Bursting into life and light throughout the primitive universe......


Is the 'light' referred to above a small part of the ElectroMagnetic Spectrum, the whole of the EMS or is the word 'light' a placeholder for something else ?
Jasper10
 
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Sun 28 May, 2023 05:48 am
@The Anointed,
Your scientific explanation it utter nonsense.

There was no single Big Bang and there won’t be a single Big Crunch.

Observations have confirmed it.
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Jasper10
 
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Sun 28 May, 2023 06:58 am
@steve reid,
The James Webb telescope pictures have confirmed the single Big Bang theory is utter nonsense but we knew that anyway.

The gravity theory that predicted it is utter nonsense as well because you cannot fit this theory into the multiple big bangs and big crunches that are happening 360deg all around the heavens at varying timescales.

The Anointed’s beliefs in the single Big Bang nonsense science is therefore misguided.

Modern day science isn’t gonna broadcast what idiots they have been in claiming it all began with a single big bang now are they.

They need to remain quiet in the future.
steve reid
 
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Sun 28 May, 2023 10:43 am
@Jasper10,
Jasper10 wrote:

The James Webb telescope pictures have confirmed the single Big Bang theory is utter nonsense......

I've been reading about the JWT this afternoon, interesting stuff, but I can't find anything to support your assertion

Please can you show a web page where your claim can be verified
Jasper10
 
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Sun 28 May, 2023 11:27 am
@steve reid,
Keep reading up on it.

Matter is exiting and entering many many holes in the universe all the time so how any one can claim that it all has exited and will enter a single hole is just plain stupid and simply isn’t true.Never was true and never will be true.

The JWT is revealing galaxies that simply shouldn’t exist if the single Big Bang theory were true.

It isn’t true.

They know it isn’t true but as I say how can they announce it.It is such an embarrassment to the scientific community.

As I keep saying don’t let atheists loose with your science because they haven’t got a clue.Their formulas are not backed up by observation.

Their theories are not backed up by observation because nature does not utilise half logic +/-…-/+ in its construction.The Big Bang theory and Gravity theories are attraction theories.Someone needs to tell these idiots about repulsion.

Nature adopts a common science for attraction and repulsion and that science is electromagnetism.The electromagnetic fields that saturate the universe are not just there for show.They are there to produce spin.All things spin in the universe at the macro/micro levels

Nature adopts full logic -/-…-/+…+/-…+/+ as proved by the 4 off electromagnetic force interactions.

The only way to balance these forces of nature is by the vibratory balanced formula +/-=+/-



Jasper10
 
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Sun 28 May, 2023 11:49 am
@Jasper10,
Why can’t the electromagnetic fields that saturate the universe have preceded the big bangs and big crunches?

Why believe in idiots whose theories are failing by observations that you MUST believe what they say about the electromagnetic fields coming after their failed single Big Bang theory?



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The Anointed
 
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Sun 28 May, 2023 05:23 pm
@steve reid,
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Is the 'light' referred to above a small part of the ElectroMagnetic Spectrum, the whole of the EMS or is the word 'light' a placeholder for something else ?

The Theory of the BIG BANG as the origin of this universe, begins with an infinitely dense, infinitely hot, infinitesimally small ‘SINGULARITY’ which was spatially separated and spewed out, as an extremely hot liquid like plasma of electromagnetic energy in the trillions upon trillions of degrees, in fact our scientists claim that the universal temperature at the instant of the Big Bang, was '100 million trillion trillion kelvins, or 180 million trillion trillion degrees Fahrenheit.'

The first law of thermodynamics is the same as the first law of conservation and that is, that energy can neither be created or destroyed. If energy cannot be created, then it always was, and If it can never be destroyed, it always will be. Therefore, according to this law, energy must be eternal, having neither beginning or end. Energy can be and is converted to that which we perceive as matter. In fact, this apparent material universe at the time of the Big Bang, was pure electromagnetic energy in the trillions upon trillions of degrees, which has been converted to that which we perceive as matter, only to be reconverted to its original form as electromagnetic energy during the phase of the Big Crunch.

So, in answer to your question Steve; ‘As to the eternal energy from which this entire universe and all within it, including you and I were created, the 'light' referred to above, is but a small part of the Electromagnetic pool of origin which has become all that exists.
The Anointed
 
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Sun 28 May, 2023 09:48 pm
@Jasper10,
Quote:
Matter is exiting and entering many many holes in the universe all the time so how any one can claim that it all has exited and will enter a single hole is just plain stupid and simply isn’t true.Never was true and never will be true.


Stars are continuously forming within the billions of galactic nebulas within this universe that began about 13.8 billion years ago and those billions upon billions of heavenly nuclear reactors are creating new matter all the time.

The many, many holes in the universe into which matter is entering, are black holes, which scientists believe occur when super-massive suns reach the end of their life and implode, creating massive centrally condensed gravitational systems which will devour anything of lesser mass that come in contact with it.

A Black Hole is a massive system so centrally condensed that the force of gravity prevents everything within it, even light from escaping, science is still coming to grips with Black Holes, which are believed to be at the centre of all Spiral and elliptical galaxies, and Black Holes devour everything of lesser mass that comes in contact with them.

Our Milky Way galaxy is said to be anchored in space by a super Black hole, which has a mass of some three to four million suns, and if you think that’s a big black hole, consider this; “In December of 2019, astronomers announced the discovery of one of the biggest black holes ever measured in the nearby universe. That black hole is at the center of an elliptical galaxy in galaxy cluster Abel 85 and has been calculated to be 40 billion times the mass of our sun, which is equivalent to two-thirds the mass of the 100-billion stars in the Milky Way and is roughly the size of our entire solar system.”

Our Milky Way and the nearby Andromeda Galaxy, which are two spiral galaxies are on a collision course, and when these two spiral galaxies collide, they can merge and form an elliptical galaxy, which elliptical galaxies can collide and merge again to form an even larger elliptical galaxy. The central Black holes of those elliptical galaxies also merge and combine to make one massive Black Hole, and those Massive galaxies, which are called ‘core galaxies’ are believed to be the main attractive force at the center of galactic clusters, which clusters are being attracted to a super Duper gravitational anomaly within the Shapley Super Cluster, which is the largest concentration of galaxies in our nearby universe that forms a gravitational anomaly that is pulling itself together instead of expanding with the universe.

It is believed that pairs of spiral galaxies form elliptical galaxies, pairs of those elliptical galaxies form cored elliptical galaxies, and a pair of cored galaxies formed Holmberg 15A, and that this series of mergers also created the ultramassive black hole in its center, a monster nearly as big as our solar system with the mass of around 40 billion suns.

Around the Super Black Hole at the centre of our Milky Way Galaxy, orbits many other black holes, which were created from the collapse of Gigantic stars that had formed in the galaxy, or were once at the centre of other lesser galactic bodies that have merged with ours. There are perhaps twenty small galaxies that orbit the Milky Way, like moths around a flame.

The larger Magellanic Cloud (Nebecula Major) and the smaller Magellanic Cloud (Nebecula Minor) are two galaxies that are orbiting our Milky Way galaxy which orbits the central Super Black Hole to which those Magellanic Clouds are being gathered and will one day merge with our galaxy. Here we witness this universe returning to the singularity of its origin, as the universe continues to devour itself, until only one enormous super Black Hole remains into which the remaining matter will enter and be ripped to pieces until only the photons, which are the quantum of the eternal electromagnetic energy will remain and be crushed into the singularity of origin, where the volume of space is zero and its density is infinite.

To be continued.
Jasper10
 
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Sun 28 May, 2023 10:24 pm
@The Anointed,
It ain’t a black hole The Anointed,Its just a hole.as I have posted many many times.You can’t describe a hole as black if presence;awareness and consciousness are part of the equation.It could equally be a white hole..You have to give it its own description like glass for example.
The Anointed
 
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Sun 28 May, 2023 11:02 pm
@Jasper10,
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It ain’t a black hole The Anointed,Its just a hole.as I have posted many many times.


Then you must have been wrong so many, many times.

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You can’t describe a hole as black if presence;awareness and consciousness are part of the equation.It could equally be a white hole.


Knowing you as I do, your ignorance as to what a White Hole is, will be forgiven. In 1935, Einstein and physicist Nathan Rosen used the theory of general relativity to elaborate on the idea of black holes and worm holes, proposing the existence of "bridges" through space-time. These bridges connect two different points in space-time, theoretically creating a shortcut that could reduce travel time and distance; Billions of light years to mere kilo-metres.

The idea of an Einstein-Rosen bridge, is that all matter entering a Black Hole from which hole nothing can escape, can emerge in a different point in space-time through a white Hole into which nothing can enter.

A worm Hole could theoretically be used as a method of sending information or travelers through space, unfortunately, physical matter which includes humans journeying through the space tunnels would appear to be an impossibility as there are strong indications that material objects travelling through a worm hole is forbidden by the law of physics.

But now that it has been discovered that Physical matter is but an illusion, and all is, but the eternal energy, I have no doubts that one day, during the coming thousand years of peace, new technology will develop a way to convert physical bodies to their atomic structure and teleport those bodies of energy along light beams and reconstruct them to their original form, with no damage done: ‘Beam me up Scotty?’ This will happen mate, it's recorded in the human psyche.

Every atom has its own unique signature, no two atoms have the same wobble.

Jasper10
 
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Sun 28 May, 2023 11:13 pm
@The Anointed,
Come on The Anointed you know I am not referring to physics attempted explanation of things.There are other sciences as well other than physics.

To deny presence,awareness,and consciousness and refer back to a dead scientists explanation of physics all the time believing that has all the answers is ridiculous..

I am referring to an inner light and darkness.

Presence,Awareness and Consciousness are apart of science.You may think they are mere illusions but that knowledge came from out of consciousness synch meditative practices and we know that the knowledge gained from such practices is utter nonsense.
Jasper10
 
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Mon 29 May, 2023 12:46 am
@Jasper10,
Nobody has been able to disprove full logic science.

Half logic science has failed by observation because it was invented by idiots.
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Jasper10
 
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Mon 29 May, 2023 12:47 am
@Jasper10,
A sound science is required based upon sound philosophy.

The present scientific model is utter nonsense.
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izzythepush
 
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Mon 29 May, 2023 03:10 am
@steve reid,
You are wasting your time.

Not only does Jasper lack the scientific knowledge to put his theories into any form of function/equation, he cannot articulate his ideas.

All you're left with is smug inanity where he makes great claims about science and his awareness with nothing to back it up save a few buzz words: plus, minus, magnetism, toggle etc.

It's like a social experiment where some piece of AI is programmed to repeat some half arsed notion ad infinitum to see what the reaction would be.
Jasper10
 
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Mon 29 May, 2023 03:23 am
@izzythepush,
……I offer an alternative science and philosophy izzy now that the modern day philosophy logic and the science that tries to back it up has failed by observation…..

It’s time for a change, people have had enough of listening to idiots.
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steve reid
 
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Mon 29 May, 2023 03:28 am
@The Anointed,
I assumed God created the universe, then set in motion the Big Bang which spawned the EMS, but if both God and energy are eternal one could not create the other, or perhaps God and energy are one and the same, is this what you are implying with the great thought?.
steve reid
 
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Mon 29 May, 2023 03:32 am
@Jasper10,
Jasper10 wrote:

Keep reading up on it.

Once again you dodge the issue, I can't find the confirmation you state, and so have to assume you have been taken in by

https://www.space.com/james-webb-space-telescope-science-denial#:~:text=The%20James%20Webb%20Space%20Telescope%20%28JWST%29%20has%20not,false%20narrative%20that%20the%20Big%20Bang%20didn%27t%20happen.
 

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