Fitzgerald Investigation of Leak of Identity of CIA Agent

Raw Story reported that more than an hour ago.

Walter


Thanks, Walter. Now we have two sources for Woodward, Bush's chief of staff Andrew Card and Bush's National Security Director Stephen Hadley. Are both correct?

BBB

you having an Altzheimer's moment or just reverting to form?

this is what you said



Unlike you, who call yourself versed on the Law, I know how important the Law is for civilization to exist, but not in the anal retentive way you do, where the only thing that counts is winning or losing but in a meta-sense as a bulwark of the social contract against the barbarism of uncivilized behavior.

the trial by a jury of one's peers is the most important functional feature of the social contract modern humanity can afford to yield justice. I have served on several juries and consider the duty as close to sacred as one can have in a secular society.

for you tico, the law is merely a verbal game to be played. you do not have any respect for it because in the course of your law career you have come to despise it for its weaknesses.

Maybe you just forgot why you chose a career in Law, and in case you did lose your soul to mammon:

Robert Bolton's play "A Man for all Seasons"

ST. (SIR) THOMAS MORE (A Man for All Seasons):

http://www.publicdefender.com/FJCPDCthomasmoore.html

The following is an excerpt of a dialogue among More, his daughter and her suitor, William Roper, as set forth in Robert Bolt's two-act play, A Man For All Seasons. In this play, Bolt had hoped in part to contrast the seriousness which More in the 16th Century attached to the swearing of an oath as compared with the insignificance attached to such an event in modern times - then 1962.



And just as surely I would give Irving Libby the benefit of law, for my own safety's sake, and yours too Tico.

It is you Tico who are the Roper here, not I and your abysmal attempts to project your own personal tendencies onto others on-site are all too transparent.

Good God, kuvasz. You are becoming little more than scroll material.

A lesser man would have grown weary having to point out your mistakes at every turn. I'm not a machine ... I do have limits.

But I'll press on. Read again what I said: "I never said you said it. But you do think it's just a formality, don't you?"

That was a question in search of an answer. You came back with a whole lot of nonsense about how the jury system is so important to you, which was completely non-responsive to my question.

And looking again at what I said, in response to your demand that I "post any remark" where you said there should be no trial, I pointed out that I never said you said that. So it was neither an Alzheimer nor an Altzheimer moment ... for me at least.

Tico
Tico, your post response to kuvasz just proved his point. You must be more careful in the future so you don't continue to embarrass yourself.

BBB

It's been said that the acid test of intelligence is its ability to cope with unintelligence.


Boy, I sure am being tested today.

Only the biggest right-wing idiots on the web link what is supposed to be satire from scrappleface.com.

It is like they are saying, hey look at me, I am a true right-wing moron who thinks this swill is funny.

Well, I, for one, applaud your effort.

Test results were posted yesterday in the hall outside the cafeteria. Perhaps you missed them. I speak for all your teachers from the 2005 term when I say we'll be happy to have you with us again next year.

Tico
If you argue cases in court as you do on this forum. My question to you is did you ever win?

I am pretty sure he avoids going to court like the plaque. I would love to be a fly on the wall when Maya gets stuck trying to argue in front of a tough female judge or, worse yet, a female dominated jury.

Uncontested divorces and wills don't require much actual court time. There are many attorneys who are able to eke out a relatively meager living without having the skills or talent to successfully argue.

I'm having a hard time remembering if I've ever lost.

Tico


I understand that folic acid is good for improving memory.

BBB

I'm really trying to ignore you, Harper/Chrissee, and I wish you'd do the same for me.

Re: Tico


Perhaps you could give me some of your Geritol?

Tico
A mind is a terrible thing to lose

au1929


Should A2K set up a lost and found department for lost minds or memories? Maybe for lost youth. Then Tico can stop making fun of my age.

BBB

The "I don't recall" defense.

Bernstein Says There's Too Much 'Piling On' Woodward
Bernstein Says There's Too Much 'Piling On' Woodward
By Joe Strupp
Published: November 16, 2005 10:55 PM ET
NEW YORK

Watergate legend Carl Bernstein warned critics to back off their attacks on his former partner Bob Woodward following this week's disclosures that Woodward had testified in the Valerie Plame case, and had failed to inform Washington Post editors for two years about a confidential conversation he'd had with a White House official.

"I think there is an awful lot of piling on," Bernstein told E&P. "It's outrageous to question Bob's integrity as some seem to be doing. Anyone who looks at the record knows that it is the most distinguished journalistic record of our time."

Bernstein said he found out about the story on Tuesday when Woodward called him to tell him. "He called me, and told me what was going on. We both expected there would be criticism as well as internal angst [at the Post]."

He also said he had known about Woodward's testimony "within the last couple of days." When asked if he knew the identity of Woodward's source, he said, "I'm not going to get into that."

Bernstein's comments followed revelations Wednesday in the Post that Woodward had testified in a two-hour deposition Monday about having received information from an administration official about former CIA agent Valerie Plame in 2003. The same story revealed Woodward did not disclose the conversation with the official to Post executive editor Leonard Downie Jr., until last month.

Downie on Wednesday acknowledged his disappointment in Woodward's failure to reveal the conversation sooner, but said he accepted an apology from Woodward and had asked him to be more open about such information in the future.

The new information has sparked some criticism from observers, who contend that Woodward had wrongly withheld the information. Bernstein says those critics should look at Woodward's 30-plus years of work in investigative journalism first.

"The most important thing to understand about Bob is that we know more about the last seven presidencies because Woodward did the hard work that other reporters don't do," he said. "That is what needs to be kept in mind here more than any other fact. The real test is Bob's work. I think that when the next book comes out on the Bush presidency, about the war, it will be a hell of a book.

"But I think that part of this criticism stems from people who want his work to be something that it's not, more heavily conclusory or interpretative. It has to do with some people who have felt that for a while."

Bernstein also pointed out that Woodward's reluctance to come forward before was out of a desire to protect his source, whose identity remains unknown. "This is about protecting sources, that is the first obligation and he did that," Bernstein said.

Bernstein declined to comment on whether Woodward should have informed Downie sooner or how his actions might have affected the Post's reporting of the Plame story: "The internal questions about the Washington Post, I'll leave that to them. It is much easier to stand on the sidelines than be in the middle of something. ...

When asked about Woodward's refusal to be interviewed by other Post reporters on this story, he said "I'm sure at some point, Bob will make himself available. Now is not the time to do it, for all kinds of reasons."
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'NY Times' Wonders If Cheney Is Key Woodward Source
'NY Times' Wonders If Cheney Is Key Woodward Source
By E&P Staff
Published: November 16, 2005 11:20 PM ET
NEW YORK

In an article for Thursday's New York Times, reporter Todd Purdum, through the process of elimination, leaves Vice President Cheney still standing as a high ranking Bush administration official who has not denied being Bob Woodward's newly revealed key source in the Plame/CIA leak case.

Woodward provided sworn testimony to the federal grand jury on Monday, but said the source that mentioned Valerie Plame's CIA job to him in mid-June 2003 had still not authorized him to disclose his or her name. This "set off a frantic new round of guessing about who that source might be and a wave of public denials by spokesmen for possible suspects," Purdum observes.

Then he ticks them off: "A senior administration official said that neither President Bush himself, nor his chief of staff, Andrew H. Card Jr., nor his counselor, Dan Bartlett, was Mr. Woodward's source. So did spokesmen for former Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, former C.I.A. Director George J. Tenet and his deputy John E. McLaughlin.

"A lawyer for Karl Rove, the deputy White House chief of staff who has acknowledged conversations with reporters about the case and remains under investigation, said Mr. Rove was not Mr. Woodward's source.

"Vice President Cheney did not join the parade of denials. A spokeswoman said he would have no comment on an ongoing investigation. Several other officials could not be reached for comment."

Other "informed" speculation centers on Stephen Hadley.

Purdum pointed out that an enduring mystery of the case remains: WHO was Robert Novak's source for the Plame leak?

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