ABORTION.......

Someone has kicked a mother in the stomach repeatedly with the intent of destroying the unborn. The mothers choice and right was to have that child!

What is the charge that should be broght against the person?

Mesquite,

I'm not quite sure just who you think owes Frank an apology and what that apology would be for. I and others maintain we do not consider the fetus/child to be a parasite and Frank has stated he does consider it to be one.

So, what's up with that?

Technically? Nice way to think of a human being.

mesquite wrote:

Just for kicks, I did a post search for "parasite" with author "frank apisa" and got seven hits.

In all seven the word "parasite" was within a quote from another poster.

foxfyre -- 4
Momma Angel --2
Intrepid -- 1

Yes, but the word did not originate from the 3 posters you mention.

Also, on August 13th Frank wrote the following

Quote:

Well...you are entitled to think that.

I think that is a bunch of horseshyt.

I think it insane to suppose that a fetus...growing in the body of a host....has rights or interests that cause its host to lose rights or interests that teh host has.

And I certainly don't want someone like you deciding which interests take precedence over which others.

In the context used, would you argue that the word host does not indicate a "parasite" is present?

Momma Angel wrote:

Mesquite,

I'm not quite sure just who you think owes Frank an apology and what that apology would be for. I and others maintain we do not consider the fetus/child to be a parasite and Frank has stated he does consider it to be one.

So, what's up with that?

Technically? Nice way to think of a human being.

I have never stated that I consider the fetus to be a parasite EVER.

You are a goddam liar.

Why don't you stop being a goddam liar?

Here is exactly what you asked me

Bartikus wrote:

Someone has kicked a mother in the stomach repeatedly with the intent of destroying the unborn. The mothers choice and right was to have that child!

What is the charge that should be broght against the person?

It's clear that you asked me to assess the man and woman and to make certain determinations about their behaviors from a legal and ethical perspective.

Chumly wrote:

Here is exactly what you asked me

Bartikus wrote:

Someone has kicked a mother in the stomach repeatedly with the intent of destroying the unborn. The mothers choice and right was to have that child!

What is the charge that should be broght against the person?

It's clear that you asked me to assess the man and woman and to make certain determinations about their behaviors from a legal and ethical perspective.

I'll just ask one thing.

Is there ever a time when killing an unborn child can be considered murder?

If yes, then under what criteria in your opinion?

Bartikus wrote:

Chumly wrote:

Here is exactly what you asked me

Bartikus wrote:

Someone has kicked a mother in the stomach repeatedly with the intent of destroying the unborn. The mothers choice and right was to have that child!

What is the charge that should be broght against the person?

It's clear that you asked me to assess the man and woman and to make certain determinations about their behaviors from a legal and ethical perspective.

I'll just ask one thing.

Is there ever a time when killing an unborn child can be considered murder?

If yes, then under what criteria in your opinion?

By "unborn child"...do you mean fetus???

Frank Apisa wrote:

Bartikus wrote:

Chumly wrote:

Here is exactly what you asked me

Bartikus wrote:

Someone has kicked a mother in the stomach repeatedly with the intent of destroying the unborn. The mothers choice and right was to have that child!

What is the charge that should be broght against the person?

It's clear that you asked me to assess the man and woman and to make certain determinations about their behaviors from a legal and ethical perspective.

I'll just ask one thing.

Is there ever a time when killing an unborn child can be considered murder?

If yes, then under what criteria in your opinion?

By "unborn child"...do you mean fetus???

For the sake of argument yes a human fetus. That stage starts at the end of the 8th week until birth (all the major structures have formed).

http://www.newswithviews.com/public_comm/public_commentary8.htm

fetus
One entry found for fetus.


Main Entry: fe·tus
Pronunciation: 'fE-t&s
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin, act of bearing young, offspring; akin to Latin fetus newly delivered, fruitful -- more at FEMININE
: an unborn or unhatched vertebrate especially after attaining the basic structural plan of its kind; specifically : a developing human from usually three months after conception to birth

Yes I will go with the medical definition with you.

Here's another very similar

http://www.biology-text.com/definition.php?word=fetus

The point is that these definitions refer to 'the unborn young' of human beings. Not to something that 'WILL BE' a human being someday.

Frank,

Apology accepted. But, still no holding hands and singing, ok? I mean, a woman has her pride, ya know! :wink:

Bartikus,

I don't need clarification for your scenario. The father of the child committed premeditated murder in my opinion.

Bartikus,

I cannot disagree with a single thing you just posted. And, being able to see every person's side in this situation is, IMO, a gift. It seems you have that gift.