ABORTION.......

Because you are the one who wants to change the law to fit your opinion Momma

Intrepid wrote:

Eorl,
Do I understand your rational correctly? 14 year old girls may become pregnant. Rather than look at the cause of the pregnancy and work on that, we will just give the errant girl the opportunity to dispose of the resulting life that has been created. After all, nobody has seen this life so why not just get rid of it. Then, the 14 year old girl can go and get pregnant again because there is an out.

Where are your values? Where are your morals? Don't fix the cause, give a way to escape the consequences.

Put the responsiblility where it belongs.

My morals and my values tell me that it is cruel and ignorant to create an environment that requires a 14 year old girl to track down an illegal backyard abortion clinic and withhold proper medical care from her. Your morals and values tell you she deserves death for the crime of her pregnancy...but hey, if a book says a god is on your side, then yours must be better.

Do what you can to prevent unwanted pregnancy by all means (and you better include contraception and the morning after pill) but don't jettison your responsibility to find a realistic solution if it happens anyway.

How dare you question my morals and values ? I value life as much if not more than you, which is why I would save a dog before an 8 week foetus, only my idea of what constitutes a valuable life is not twisted by ridiculous church propaganda.

So many smug christians all soooo comfortable in their certainty of everything.....unquestionable right and wrong, black and white morals....standards written by gods....if only you could see how twisted and sick you look from where I stand.

There are 46 million abortions every year, 20 million of those are illegal.

It is not twisted to hate for a human child to be treated in a way that is illegal to treat a dog.

Not my best sentence structure.

I remain appalled at Partial Birth Abortion, and find it inconceivable that you can perform that on a human, but not a dog.

Not my best sentence structure.

I remain appalled at Partial Birth Abortion, and find it inconceivable that you can perform that on a human, but not a dog.

Eorl wrote:

Intrepid wrote:

Eorl,
Do I understand your rational correctly? 14 year old girls may become pregnant. Rather than look at the cause of the pregnancy and work on that, we will just give the errant girl the opportunity to dispose of the resulting life that has been created. After all, nobody has seen this life so why not just get rid of it. Then, the 14 year old girl can go and get pregnant again because there is an out.

Where are your values? Where are your morals? Don't fix the cause, give a way to escape the consequences.

Put the responsiblility where it belongs.

My morals and my values tell me that it is cruel and ignorant to create an environment that requires a 14 year old girl to track down an illegal backyard abortion clinic and withhold proper medical care from her. Your morals and values tell you she deserves death for the crime of her pregnancy...but hey, if a book says a god is on your side, then yours must be better.

Do what you can to prevent unwanted pregnancy by all means (and you better include contraception and the morning after pill) but don't jettison your responsibility to find a realistic solution if it happens anyway.

How dare you question my morals and values ? I value life as much if not more than you, which is why I would save a dog before an 8 week foetus, only my idea of what constitutes a valuable life is not twisted by ridiculous church propaganda.

So many smug christians all soooo comfortable in their certainty of everything.....unquestionable right and wrong, black and white morals....standards written by gods....if only you could see how twisted and sick you look from where I stand.

These are not necessarily church or religious standards. These are human and humane standards that you have trouble understanding. The fact that you put a dogs life over that of a human says a lot. I am not questioning your values and morals....you are laying them out for all to see.

Eorl wrote:

There are 46 million abortions every year, 20 million of those are illegal.

Provide your source! For the 46 million abortions and for the 20 million that are illegal.

It is not twisted to hate for a human child to be treated in a way that is illegal to treat a dog.

Lash wrote:

Not my best sentence structure.

I remain appalled at Partial Birth Abortion, and find it inconceivable that you can perform that on a human, but not a dog.

Just shows the low value that is put on human life, by some. Ronal Reagan once said, "Funny that those who support abortion have all been born."

flushd wrote:

I agree with Phoenix.

Raising the child is not always a realistic option. Adoption is not always a realistic option.
Given that there are always unwanted pregnancies; ALL the options should be available. This allows a woman/girl to make the best possible choice for her circumstances.

Some folks find it morally repugnant to give a child away for adoption. Can you imagine if it were illegal to do so? wow. That would be screwy.
And hey; before anyone goes and points out that abortion and adoption are two different things: don't bother. I already know.

Anyone who could find it "morally repugnant" to give a child up for adoption and would prefer that it be exterminated does not know the meaning of "moral". They are thinking only of themselves and trying to publicly save face by hiding the existence of the pregnancy, in the process the unborn loses her life to save the mother any inconvenience.

...meanwhile there's the pope creating thousands of abortions by refusing to support contraception.....

Yes, I agree....being ready to save a living dog ahead of an 8 week old foetus that the mother does not intend to keep... does say a lot about me....and I'll stand by it.

I'm also going to say I'd swap a thousand 8 week old foetuses for just one 14 year old girl. What a monster I must be.

Eorl Wrote:

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...meanwhile there's the pope creating thousands of abortions by refusing to support contraception.....

Surely you are not serious about this comment? The pope is creating thousands of abortions? Eorl, you seem to place no responsibility on the women having these abortions.

Eorl Wrote:

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Yes, I agree....being ready to save a living dog ahead of an 8 week old foetus that the mother does not intend to keep... does say a lot about me....and I'll stand by it.

I'm also going to say I'd swap a thousand 8 week old foetuses for just one 14 year old girl. What a monster I must be.

Surely you can understand that if I believe it is a child, how this would sound?

Lash wrote:

It is not twisted to hate for a human child to be treated in a way that is illegal to treat a dog.

Again with the "human child" definition already decided there Lash ?

How can anyone argue with such an obvious statement?

Thing is, we are talking about an 8 week old foetus, not a human child.