Teacher vs Researcher

A stubborn “prisoner of consciousness” might “claim a limitation” and “sure enough”;
A pure “thinker” might “claim casual imagination” and “sure enough”.
The former one tries to set a constraint for science…short circuit in his brain; while the latter one makes endless conjecture, more and more “?” will be emitted into the night sky, pull science to wander around like a cow…overheated in his head.
Neither one is a good affair for science.
A third way is to try to clarify some fundamental conceptions / principles and eliminate the defects / flaws in existing theories and INTERCONNECT them. Establish a sound fundamental system for science, to develop step by step.

Piggy has been defined as dead man by the First Oder in what CN. Piggy dies hard. I am sure. But piggy is not quite sure what’s the fate of science.

Why do you say “casual” imaginations? Have you changed you mind about PRESENCE holding the upper hand? Ha Ha….

If PRESENCE is everywhere then it’s still around when all matter has disappeared.

Why do you keep wanting to avoid the FULCRUM ?

PRESENCE is neither + or - energy.PRESENCE is STILL ….PRESENCE is separate from “toggling”…You are getting confused with SELF…SELF gets ENTANGLED with the “toggling”……a “prisoner of consciousness”

So it’s clear then……Electro-mechanics create holes in the cosmos.Holes don’t create electro-mechanics.

PRESENCE is in CONTROL of the electo-mechanics because PRESENCE controls momentum.

Ummm…what is the philosophical correlation I wonder?

When that rabbit Dandan bounces ahead, he remains a rabbit with long ears. His inherent property would not change / disappear following movement. This is not by imagination. It can be verified by direct observation.

Modern day science is caught up with expansion/contraction and can't get off the "hamsters wheel".

As I say ...…….it should be focusing on the overall system that is causing the expansion/contraction.

It doesn't matter if heaven and earth pass away.

PRESENCE would still be there.

One will never find the Fulcrum unless SELF grasps the above.

This isn't casual imaginations...

Science is a very complicated / detailed / systematic method to solve specific problems rather than jump around and think this think that randomly to satisfy one’s psychology at any time.
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Next continue the topic of “One step forward or backward, touchy and feely”.
The fun thing is that some “prisoner of consciousness” play invariable mass in one hand (due to “confusing” with the so called what "transverse and longitudinal mass"), while in the other hand play relativistic space – time.
They are not able to be AWARE of the FULCRUM in CONTROL over their head. (Here exactly the “chain effect” piggy mentioned in the physics thread.)
That’s neither fish nor fowl. Actually they “toggle” between Newton’s “absolute subconsciousness era” and Einstein’s “relativistic subconsciousness era”.
They are “eccentric”, but is UNAWARE of this.

The logic output possibility combinations have not come about by random thinking htam9876......they came about as a result of structured thinking.

Who cares what rubbish logic which satisfies your own mind only?
What science cares is how to solve specific problems.

Ha Ha …it’s not rubbish logic though…it’s tried tested and sound…and is connected to science.

The FULCRUM is something completely different to what philosophy and science are used to.

The “bubble” principle fits the bill…..

Expansion/Contraction occurs within the “bubble”.

The “bubble” encompasses the equal but opposite forces.

Philosophically..the correlation to “bubble” is PRESENCE…

As PRESENCE is everywhere then PRESENCE is also outside of the bubble as well.

If heaven and earth need to pass away for the expansion/contraction (toggling) to cease then fair enough…..I don’t have a problem with that.

If SELF remains with PRESENCE at the FULCRUM then all that means is that SPACE is full of bubbles

I really don’t see what the problem is with that.

If you are fascinated by logic, why not go to research PLC (programmable logic control)? It’s very useful in modern manufacturing industry. But it is much much more complicated than your 4 off.
Or you can apply your 4 off logic in it and the machine will toggle toggle all day while do nothing.

Well you might as well get used to it because that is how the biological computer brain works.

There is always an output if SELF inputs full logic.

Hence the BUBBLE…..darkness and light within it in equal measure.

The “BUBBLE “ or PRESENCE? is completely separate from darkness or light it would appear.

A “prisoner of consciousness” is similar to a rabbit standing with two rear legs on the ground, toggle toggle, the more he bounces the bigger he would become a stumbling stone for the development of history;
A pure “thinker” is similar to a “tower floating in the air”, bubble bubble, the more he imagines, the larger / higher the bubble would float in the air.

My view is that the “bubble” concept is a whole new idea not talked about in modern day science or philosophy yet…Ha.Ha…

Piggy trusts in that it’s the First Logic (the First Order) in CONTROL of this cosmos forever. They are powers in the UPPER POSITION. They have much social resource to input into the mechanism of cosmos to output their absolute logic and maintain it as cruel “reality”. (Defines piggy only can be a half – self payment watchman in their small business or a drudge or a dead man. Only the bad is bad, good is bad possibility output; never the good is good, bad is good possibility output.)
If you think that you are powerful enough too, why not launch your own project “My logic, the logic that I recommend”?

If you are “sure enough” with your imagination, why not launch your own project “My imagination, the imagination that I recommend”?
At least you are a guy who is AWARE. (But unfortunately, you set the FULCRUM in your mind rather than on natural facts. You never can be AWARE that it’s your mind processing thing and in CONTROL of you. And you feel that’s “science”. But actually it’s just your psychology. You have been trapped in your mind. You will always feel your psychology = science, but obviously science ≠ your psychology.) Piggy is not quite interested in research of such philosophy in last millennium, but tries to solve some specific “hard problems” in modern science.
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Now if some guys can feel non – confusing is actually a bit better than “confusing” in science, piggy will feel very happy.

Next continue the topic of “One step forward or backward, touchy and feely”.
Also fun is those “prisoner of consciousness” have consciousness about the so called what “confusing” "transverse and longitudinal mass", while in the other hand play "non - transverse and non - longitudinal time".
Sounds half AWAKEN half dreaming.

PRESENCE is the bubble and SELF can join PRESENCE at the FULCRUM and be AWARE of the “toggling” darkness and light within and without.PRESENCE is in CONTROL and does not need light to see.