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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
snood
 
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Reply Mon 3 May, 2021 05:23 am
@hightor,
“Patriotic education”...

The term itself gives me shivers.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 3 May, 2021 05:35 am
@snood,
The dependence on patriotism to build support for the Republican Party and the patriotic education campaign by the Republicans propagandists seem to be responsible for the open nationalistic sentiments.

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hightor
 
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Reply Mon 3 May, 2021 06:26 am
Nikole Hannah-Jones wrote:
When you say that multiculturalism is 'not who America is' and 'distorts our glorious founding' you unwittingly confirm the argument of the 1619 Project: That though we were ... a multiracial nation from our founding, our founders set forth a government of white rule. Cool.
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hightor
 
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Reply Mon 3 May, 2021 06:34 am
Is America a Racist Country?

Quote:
Last Sunday, Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina added himself to the long list of Republicans who have denied the existence of systemic racism in this country. Graham said on “Fox News Sunday” that “our systems are not racist. America’s not a racist country.”

Graham argued that the country can’t be racist because both Barack Obama and Kamala Harris had been elected and somehow, their overcoming racial hurdles proves the absence of racial hurdles. His view seems to be that the exceptions somehow negated the rule.

In the rebuttal to President Biden’s address to a joint session of Congress, the other senator from South Carolina, Tim Scott, the lone Black Republican in the Senate, parroted Graham and became an apologist for these denials of racism, saying too that the country wasn’t racist. He argued that people are “making money and gaining power by pretending we haven’t made any progress at all, by doubling down on the divisions we’ve worked so hard to heal.”

Scott’s argument seems to leave open the possibility that America may have been a racist country but that it has matured out of it, that it has graduated into egalitarianism.

I personally don’t make much of Scott’s ability to reason. This is the same man who said in March that “woke supremacy,” whatever that is, “is as bad as white supremacy.” There is no world in which recent efforts at enlightenment can be equated to enslavement, lynching and mass incarceration. None.

It seems to me that the disingenuousness on the question of racism is largely a question of language. The question turns on another question: “What, to you, is America?” Is America the people who now inhabit the land, divorced from its systems and its history? Or, is the meaning of America inclusive of those systems and history?

When people say that America is a racist country, they don’t necessarily mean that all or even most Americans are consciously racist. However, it is important to remember that nearly half the country just voted for a full-on racist in Donald Trump, and they did so by either denying his racism, becoming apologists for it, or applauding it. What do you call a country thus composed?

Historically, however, there is no question that the country was founded by racists and white supremacists, and that much of the early wealth of this country was built on the backs of enslaved Africans, and much of the early expansion came at the expense of the massacre of the land’s Indigenous people and broken treaties with them.

Eight of the first 10 presidents personally enslaved Africans. In 1856, the chief justice of the Supreme Court wrote about the Dred Scott case, in an infamous ruling that would be issued in 1857, that Black people “had for more than a century before been regarded as beings of an inferior order, and altogether unfit to associate with the white race, either in social or political relations; and so far inferior, that they had no rights which the white man was bound to respect.”

The country went on to fight a Civil War over whether some states could maintain slavery as they wished. Even some of the people arguing for, and fighting for, an end to slavery had expressed their white supremacist beliefs.

Abraham Lincoln said during his famous debates against Stephen A. Douglas in 1858 said that among white people and Black ones “there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I, as much as any other man, am in favor of the superior position being assigned to the white man.”

Some will concede the historical point and insist on the progress point, arguing that was then and this is now, that racism simply doesn’t exist now as it did then. I would agree. American racism has evolved and became less blunt, but it has not become less effective. The knife has simply been sharpened. Now systems do the work that once required the overt actions of masses of individual racists.

So, what does it mean for a system to be racist? Does the appellation depend on the system in question being openly, explicitly racist from top to bottom, or simply that there is some degree of measurable bias embedded in those systems? I assert the latter.

America is not the same country it was, but neither is it the country it purports to be. On some level this is a tension between American idealism and American realism, between an aspiration and a current condition.

And the precise way we phrase the statement makes all the difference: America’s systems — like its criminal justice, education and medical systems — have a pro-white/anti-Black bias, and an extraordinary portion of America denies or defends those biases.

As Mark Twain once put it: “The difference between the almost right word and the right word is really a large matter. ’Tis the difference between the lightning bug and the lightning.”

Being imprecise or undecided with our language on this subject contributes to the murkiness — and to the myth that the question of whether America is racist is difficult to answer and therefore the subject of genuine debate among honest intellectuals.

Saying that America is racist is not a radical statement. If that requires a longer explanation or definition, so be it. The fact, in the end, is not altered.

nyt/blow
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 3 May, 2021 06:53 am
@hightor,
Charles M. Blow wrote:
Historically, however, there is no question that the country was founded by racists and white supremacists, and that much of the early wealth of this country was built on the backs of enslaved Africans, and much of the early expansion came at the expense of the massacre of the land’s Indigenous people and broken treaties with them.
Well, there is the myth of the friendly Indians and the grateful Pilgrims who met in Plymouth by the grace of God and everyone lived happily ever after.

A letter from John Robinson - who stayed with the majority of the English Separatists in Leiden - to William Bradford in Plymouth from December 1623 disapproved of the killing of Native Americans by the Pilgrims. He did point out that once the spilling of blood had started, it would be difficult to stop.

But that's, too not part of "Patriotic US History". However, it's very interesting to look at the time of the Pilgrims in Leiden. Could give some a verified view.
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 3 May, 2021 07:44 am
@hightor,
Charles Blow gets too far out there even for me, every once in a while, but he is dead spot on here.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 3 May, 2021 09:26 am
@Builder,
Your whole pedophilia schtick is stright Q and it's bullshit.
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 3 May, 2021 04:18 pm
The cowardice of the republicans...
They voted overwhelmingly back in February to let Liz Cheney keep her position in the House leadership.
But by secret ballot.
They’re talking about having another vote to vote her out of power.
This time with the vote viewed openly.
She’s expected to be in for a fight.

Secretly they want a competent, effective representative to remain in leadership.
But in public they care only about appearing loyal to you know who.
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 4 May, 2021 01:23 pm
Awhile back there were a couple of people here posting “Why do you keep bringing up Trump? He’s not even president any more!”
Here’s why:
We have a situation right now in the Republican Party where if Trump gives someone the thumbs down (Cheney), the minority leader (McCarthy) along with a phalanx of Trump faithful, follows obediently and does his bidding.

It is a sick, sick party, committed to following a lying, twice-impeached fraud.



BillW
 
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Reply Tue 4 May, 2021 09:04 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

Awhile back there were a couple of people here posting “Why do you keep bringing up Trump? He’s not even president any more!”
Here’s why:
We have a situation right now in the Republican Party where if Trump gives someone the thumbs down (Cheney), the minority leader (McCarthy) along with a phalanx of Trump faithful, follows obediently and does his bidding.

It is a sick, sick party, committed to following a lying, twice-impeached fraud.


Then this comes up, Barr never even considered if theRump was guilty under the Mueller Report. He just wave his hand at the report and wrote that it exonerates him.
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Secret William Barr memo saying not to charge Trump must be released, judge says

A federal judge this week rejected the Justice Department's attempts to keep secret a departmental opinion to not charge former President Donald Trump with obstruction at the end of the Mueller investigation, calling the administration's lawyers "disingenuous."

The department had argued in court that the largely redacted March 2019 memo was legal reasoning that helped then-Attorney General William Barr make a decision about Trump. But federal Judge Amy Berman Jackson said she believed Barr and his advisers had already decided they wouldn't charge the President with a crime before he got the written advice, and the memo was partly strategic planning instead of legal reasoning -- and therefore could be made public.

The decision adds to the criticism federal judges and others have had about Barr and his handling of the end of the Mueller investigation.

Jackson and others have repeatedly questioned Barr's motives to keep documents related to the investigation -- including Mueller's findings and Barr's reactions to them -- secret or by delaying their release.

"The agency's redactions and incomplete explanations obfuscate the true purpose of the memorandum, and the excised portions belie the notion that it fell to the Attorney General to make a prosecution decision or that any such decision was on the table at any time," Jackson wrote in a 35-page opinion released Tuesday.

"The fact that [Trump] would not be prosecuted was a given," she added.

The judge's opinion comes in a lawsuit where the government transparency group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington is seeking access to DOJ documents through the Freedom of Information Act.
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/04/politics/william-barr-memo-trump-memo/index.html
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Builder
 
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Reply Wed 5 May, 2021 01:50 am


One paedophile, demeaning another. Interesting.
hightor
 
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Reply Wed 5 May, 2021 05:44 am
"someone with very little to say" wrote:
If former SoS Clinton can destroy crucial evidence during a Senate hearing...


It doesn't have anything to do with the article on Barr so why are you asking BillW about it? The people that did have something to say about it — the Justice Department, the State Department, and Congress — all cleared her of wrongdoing.

So he's brought up Clinton in one post, paedophilia in the next one, I wonder what the third one will be — maybe about the Jews who run the House of Saud?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 5 May, 2021 06:58 am
@hightor,
9/11.
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revelette3
 
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Reply Wed 5 May, 2021 08:06 am
If we ignore Trump it is like ignoring an elephant in the room hoping it will go away.

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Trump’s Big Lie Devoured the G.O.P. and Now Eyes Our Democracy

President Biden’s early success in getting Americans vaccinated, pushing out stimulus checks and generally calming the surface of American life has been a blessing for the country. But it’s also lulled many into thinking that Donald Trump’s Big Lie that the election was stolen, which propelled the Capitol insurrection on Jan. 6, would surely fade away and everything would return to normal. It hasn’t.

We are not OK. America’s democracy is still in real danger. In fact, we are closer to a political civil war — more than at any other time in our modern history. Today’s seeming political calm is actually resting on a false bottom that we’re at risk of crashing through at any moment.

Because, instead of Trump’s Big Lie fading away, just the opposite is happening — first slowly and now quickly.


nyt
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Glennn
 
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Reply Wed 5 May, 2021 08:09 am
@hightor,
Quote:
the Justice Department, the State Department, and Congress — all cleared her of wrongdoing.

Sure they did. She was as negligent as it gets, and so now you're parroting what you've heard.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 5 May, 2021 09:58 am
@Builder,
So you've clarly proven australia has nutball media just as wacko as fox and oan that we're lumbered with.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 5 May, 2021 10:00 am
@Glennn,
says the parroter of rabid right-wing media.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 5 May, 2021 10:10 am
@MontereyJack,
Murdoch comes from Australia.

Australia is in touch with aboriginal traditions.

You can visit the place where Aborigines traditionally go to die.

It’s a police station in Melbourne.

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Glennn
 
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Reply Wed 5 May, 2021 10:31 am
@MontereyJack,
No, she was really guilty of gross negligence in her capacity as Secretary of State. She signed this:

http://freebeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/HRC-classified-NDA1.pdf

If I could get you to acknowledge the existence of that document, that would go a long way towards showing you that what I say is true.
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