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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2024 02:19 pm
@tsarstepan,
He thinks he's on Mango Jebus' frontline.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2024 02:22 pm
@Region Philbis,
All depends. Voting GOP or Democrat?
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hightor
 
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Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2024 02:23 pm
@blatham,
This is the money roll-out I've been waiting to see. It could make the RNC's financing difficulties completely irrelevant. Trump's backers are loaded – the ones who don't have the money have guns.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2024 03:59 pm

Go ahead, single-issue vote the Gaza War and see how that helps your cause.

Turning the Gaza War into a political liability for President Biden is perhaps the most ignorant, idiotic, stupid, self-defeating political act a Democrat can commit.

There's some real stupid stuff circulating around, more than likely interjected from Republican or Russian sources on the Gaza War aimed at stirring up trouble. If you're buying it, and that's going to be the single-issue that keeps you home in November, or leads you to vote for some third party candidate, and gets Trump elected, then you need to check your toilet because you've pooped your brains out somewhere along the way.

What the hell do you want him to do? He can't cut off aid to Israel with a majority Republican house. Remember, Trump got impeached the first time for messing with aid to Ukraine that Congress had already appropriated. He can't dictate foreign policy to a sovereign nation. He is putting pressure on Netanyahu, and it is having an effect, as the responses would indicate.

So do something really stupid and idiotic by staying home in protest, or voting third party and making sure the orange headed buffoon gets back in the White House. That will accelerate the bombing to make it possible for Trump's son in law to build his condo complex on the beach where Gaza used to be.

Good luck with that.
blatham
 
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Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2024 05:35 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
Re: blatham (Post 7359589)
This is the money roll-out I've been waiting to see. It could make the RNC's financing difficulties completely irrelevant. Trump's backers are loaded – the ones who don't have the money have guns.

I'm afraid so. As I've argued previously, these people are not merely very well organized and have access to many billions of dollars while being benefited by their own media systems, they are also acutely aware of how close they've now become to controlling the machinations of governance along with, as you suggest, the potential to field cadres of armed brown shirts and they have no intention of letting this opportunity pass by.

Edit: And I'll add another factor. They are being aided, consciously or not, by the rise of tech multi-billionaires who are (most of them) operating amorally in their thoughtless quest for wealth and power. I'm reading Kara Swisher's Burn Book right now and it is not comforting.
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Glennn
 
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Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2024 05:51 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Mentioning congress's or anyone else's support of nutanyahoo's ongoing war crimes against Gazans does nothing to pull joe's butt from the fire concerning the morality question. It just puts them all in a very bad light.

Used to be the U.S. was about not negotiating with terrorists. And now we're aiding and abetting a war criminal.

Is your point that, other than that particular lapse in common decency and morality, his heart is in the right place and he's not a bad guy at all? Right. When human beings are being deliberately starved and sickened, the solution is easy . . .

By the way, what ever happened to "Never again!" Were there conditions to that declaration, like "Never again . . . unless it's IDF on Palestinians?
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Glennn
 
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Reply Thu 4 Apr, 2024 06:34 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
He can't dictate foreign policy to a sovereign nation.

What do you mean by that? How does stopping someone from starving innocent human beings equal dictating another's foreign policy?
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2024 06:25 am
There seems to be some movement in Gaza at long last, whether it will be enough remains to be seen.

I find it hard to believe that Biden is so limited in Israel. Can't he refuse to sign bills, employ the presidential veto, issue executive orders etc.?

In the UN the US has voted against a resolution saying Israel should be held accountable for any war crimes it may have committed.

I can't see the justification in that.

All perpetrators should be held accountable for warcrimes, no country, individual or organisation should be exempt.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2024 07:00 am
No Labels Director Will Vote for Biden

https://politicalwire.com/2024/04/04/no-labels-director-will-vote-for-biden/?lctg=136755346

April 4, 2024 at 10:53 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 133 Comments

No Labels national director Joe Cunningham told Fox News that would vote for President Biden now that his group has said it will not launch a third-party candidate into the fray of the 2024 presidential election.
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Glennn
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2024 08:21 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
I find it hard to believe that Biden is so limited in Israel.

He's not. He has chosen to lend a helping hand to nutanyahoo in the conduct of his war crimes.
Quote:
In the UN the US has voted against a resolution saying Israel should be held accountable for any war crimes it may have committed.

Not "may have" committed war crimes. They're managing the starvation and sickness of all Gazans right now. Collective punishment is what the U.S. has voted for.

Are there any joe supporters here who can tell me what he means when he says he's a zionist? He told the Israeli war cabinet that he is a zionist. The reason I ask is because he is providing cover for nutanyahoo's war crimes. I mean . . .
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2024 08:26 am
@Glennn,
Don't argue with me about the wording of the resolution, it's not up for debate.

Take it up with the UN.

I'm sure they'd love to hear from you, why should we have all the fun?
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2024 08:33 am
https://i.imgur.com/BgE1B4f.png
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2024 08:47 am
Mr. Kennedy has become the most prominent independent or third-party presence in the 2024 race.

What to Know About R.F.K. Jr. and His Threat to Biden and Trump
Quote:
The independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has emerged as a wild card of the 2024 election, attracting a motley mix of ideologically diverse supporters, raising piles of cash and drawing legal attacks from Democrats and verbal barrages from former President Donald J. Trump.

Mr. Kennedy, 70, the son of Robert F. Kennedy and an heir to an American political dynasty, had a troubled youth and young adulthood marked by drug abuse. He became an environmental lawyer, most famous for suing corporate polluters in an effort to clean up the Hudson Valley watershed.

In the past decade, he has become a prominent voice in the anti-vaccine movement, promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories about the risks of childhood vaccinations and other public health measures. That work gave him a large platform during the coronavirus pandemic, when he questioned the safety of Covid vaccines and the official narratives of the virus’s origins.

With the centrist group No Labels announcing on April 4 that it would not run a presidential ticket, Mr. Kennedy is the most prominent independent or third-party presence in the 2024 race. Here’s what to know about him, his supporters and how President Biden’s and Mr. Trump’s campaigns are approaching him.

What party is R.F.K. Jr. affiliated with?
Mr. Kennedy is running as an independent, so he is not affiliated with an established political party — he is not even, technically speaking, a “third-party candidate.” In keeping with his family’s political legacy, Mr. Kennedy was a lifelong Democrat, and when he entered the race in April 2023, he sought to challenge Mr. Biden for the party’s nomination. Six months later, he announced that he would run as an independent, saying the Democrats had corruptly blocked his efforts.

He has flirted with the Libertarian Party, which is on the ballot in about three dozen states. If he were to join its ticket, his efforts to get on states’ ballots would become much simpler.

His supporters have created a new party, We the People, to help him secure ballot access in a few states: California, Delaware, Hawaii, Mississippi and North Carolina.

Does R.F.K. Jr. pose a bigger threat to Biden or to Trump?
That this is such a common question — and that both sides are concerned about it — reflects what a political enigma Mr. Kennedy has become and the range of people who have been drawn to his candidacy. Still, it is hard to discern whether he would draw more voters in a general election from Mr. Trump or from Mr. Biden.

A February Fox News national poll put Mr. Kennedy’s support at around 13 percent, drawing about equally from both candidates. In Georgia, considered a swing state in national elections, he averages about 6 percent in recent polls, according to FiveThirtyEight’s polling averages.

How worried is the Biden campaign about R.F.K. Jr.? The Trump campaign?
Democrats have been haunted by third-party candidates since 2000, when Ralph Nader, running with the Green Party, was partly blamed for costing Al Gore the election. In 2016, Jill Stein — also with the Green Party — won more than 30,000 votes in Wisconsin, more than Mr. Trump’s margin of victory over Hillary Clinton in that state.

Fears among Democrats are particularly acute this year, with polls suggesting that Mr. Trump’s base of enthusiastic support is sturdier than Mr. Biden’s. Conventional wisdom within the party is that any vote not for Mr. Biden benefits Mr. Trump, and there are concerns that giving people more choices on the ballot — especially one with the last name Kennedy — is more likely to hurt Mr. Biden, especially in critical swing states. The party is taking aggressive measures to counter his candidacy.

Where is Kennedy on the ballot?
As of early April, Mr. Kennedy is officially on the ballot in one state: Utah. His campaign says he has enough signatures to get on the ballot in Hawaii, Idaho, Nevada, New Hampshire and North Carolina, but he still has to submit those signatures in applications to state officials.

His campaign is gathering signatures in most other states. The time frame to do so in some places, like Colorado and Louisiana, is narrower and has not started yet.

Each state has different rules for ballot access, and they vary depending on whether a candidate is an independent or with a third party. Almost all of the rules revolve, ultimately, around signatures: Candidates and parties have a certain window of time to gather tens of thousands of signatures, which must be submitted for approval by state authorities. And signatures take time, labor and money — tens of millions of dollars, by most estimates, including the cost of litigating challenges to ballot applications.

Who is his running mate?
Mr. Kennedy has named Nicole Shanahan, a Bay Area lawyer and investor, as his running mate. Ms. Shanahan, who was once married to the Google co-founder Sergey Brin, is a political newcomer, having never sought or held public office.

Ms. Shanahan, 38, does have a history of political giving — she gave to Mr. Biden’s 2020 campaign. And she has already shown her willingness to provide financial support to Mr. Kennedy’s campaign: She has given more than $4.5 million to super PACs backing him, including the bulk of the funding for a Super Bowl ad that one of the PACs bought.

Ms. Shanahan has aligned herself with issues and positions that are important to Mr. Kennedy, and which have animated his campaign and his core followers, including skepticism of vaccines, concerns about chronic disease, disaffection with the Democratic Party and environmental stewardship.

Who is R.F.K. Jr. popular with?
Mr. Kennedy’s supporters fall into a few overlapping categories. First, there are people who have supported his work with Children’s Health Defense — an activist group primarily known for spreading anti-vaccine disinformation.

More broadly, he has ardent, longtime supporters in the so-called medical freedom movement, which draws a cross section of political beliefs (including those of Libertarians and people who are distrustful of mainstream medicine) through its opposition to vaccination requirements and public health measures.

More recently, his outspoken criticism of the government’s handling of the pandemic — including skepticism about the Covid vaccines, broadsides against top public health officials like Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, and his protests of lockdowns and monitoring of disinformation — have drawn new supporters from across the political spectrum.

Some of his supporters are longtime Democrats drawn to the Kennedy luster — Mr. Kennedy has anchored his campaign in a mythmaking nostalgia for his family, even though most members of his family have publicly disavowed his candidacy.

Mr. Kennedy has also drawn support from Libertarians and independents who are broadly distrustful of the federal government — he expresses views that align with those of many Trump supporters, including an isolationist foreign policy and outrage over purported censorship in the news media and on tech platforms. He has become known for confrontational, provocative interviews on right-leaning podcasts, and has a kind of iconoclastic anti-establishment vibe that has appealed to disaffected Democrats and Republicans.
Glennn
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2024 08:48 am
@izzythepush,
Didn't mention a resolution . . .
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2024 08:52 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:


In the UN the US has voted against a resolution


Oh dear oh dear.

Basic comprehension not really to the fore.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2024 08:59 am
@Walter Hinteler,
To put the lie to all that Kennedy worry and the threat of "no labels", No Labels is not fielding a Presidential candidate this election and the chairman of no labels says he is voting for Joe Biden.

With RFK Jr starting to defend Mango Jebus these past two weeks, a lot of us are expecting Mango Jebus to make RFK Jr his running mate. Why not, Bush looked hard at Lieberman before Cheney set him straight.

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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2024 09:11 am
@izzythepush,
Izzy, compression would interfere with his ability to tell whoppers with a straight face.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2024 09:13 am
https://i.imgur.com/GHkmH2w.jpeg
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Glennn
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2024 09:34 am
@izzythepush,
Quote: In the UN the US has voted against a resolution saying Israel should be held accountable for any war crimes it may have committed.

Quote: Not "may have" committed war crimes. They're managing the starvation and sickness of all Gazans right now. Collective punishment is what the U.S. has voted for.
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You brought the Resolution up. My issue was with the wording. Now stop being petty. Israelis are managing the starvation and sickness of all Gazans right now; not "may be."

Now, back to the question.


Are there any joe supporters here who can tell me what he means when he says he's a zionist? He told the Israeli war cabinet that he is a zionist. The reason I ask is because he is providing cover and material support for nutanyahoo's war crimes.
Glennn
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2024 09:55 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
He can't dictate foreign policy to a sovereign nation.

What do you mean by that? How does stopping someone from starving innocent human beings equal dictating another's foreign policy?
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