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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 13 Oct, 2023 11:18 am
@blatham,
Off the top of my head Frankie Boyle, Nish Kumar and James Acaster.

Lots lots more.

He's not funny, that's why he moved to America like James Corden.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 13 Oct, 2023 11:37 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
People don't spend two years writing a stand up routine.

It's not as if they are sitting at home writing. They work through performances. Steve Martin has explicitly described this as his preparation for a special. As has Chris Rock... Gervais, Seinfeld, Chris Rock, Louis CK
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 13 Oct, 2023 11:54 am
@blatham,
None of the people you mention are particularly funny.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 13 Oct, 2023 11:56 am
@blatham,
So they do stand up in preparation for stand up.

That's not what you said originally.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 13 Oct, 2023 12:00 pm

< looks around >

slow news day... carry on...
Bogulum
 
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Reply Fri 13 Oct, 2023 02:18 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Snood. Not quite sure what is up with you but I won't be returning fire.


“What is up” with me? Nothing more than what’s “up” with you. You take SUCH umbrage when I oppose you unapologetically. Have you become accustomed to people here accepting your pronouncements as gospel, or something?

I didn’t think your joke was funny, and I thought it showed poor taste (largely b/c of timing - those ugly deaths are still sort of fresh memories). And I don’t accept your framing of comedians as somehow immune to public judgements of taste or appropriateness.


I think you’ve bought into the disgruntled narratives of comedians like Bill Maher who wail about any pushback as the infection of “the woke mob”.

But sometimes people don’t judge things out of over abundance of “wokeness”(whatever white people think that is nowadays); they just speak up when something rubs their sense of common decency the wrong way.

I disagree with you and you clutch pearls and say “Golly, should I apologize?”

I disagree with you and you react as if I cursed you out and slandered your ancestry.

I don’t remember you being such a hothouse rose.
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thack45
 
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Reply Fri 13 Oct, 2023 02:30 pm
@Region Philbis,
Quote:
‘The Onion’ Stands With Israel Because It Seems Like You Get In Less Trouble For That


https://www.theonion.com/the-onion-stands-with-israel-because-it-seems-like-yo-1850922505
blatham
 
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Reply Fri 13 Oct, 2023 03:05 pm
@Region Philbis,
Quote:
< looks around >

slow news day... carry on...

Your point is well taken, Region. I think each of we participants in the recent conversation ought perhaps to feel some portion of embarrassment at what has gone on. And it is not as if there aren't important things going on in the world currently. Which brings to mind - have you guys heard the one about the Rabbi and the Muslim cleric and the transvestite dwarf who walked into a bar?
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Bogulum
 
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Reply Fri 13 Oct, 2023 06:10 pm
I looked over my posts for the last few pages and saw that Blatham was owed an apology - which I have offered him. I also apologize to the forum in general for any dragging down effect my posts caused.

I will spend some time identifying and removing the weed up my ass.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 13 Oct, 2023 09:59 pm
@Bogulum,
Not me of course, but more of us need to do this every so often.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 13 Oct, 2023 10:08 pm
@thack45,
That's my feeling on the other site I post on. I just read and shake my head.

Obviously, there's no popular/political will to stop this outrage on either side.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 14 Oct, 2023 03:58 am
@bobsal u1553115,
At the beginning there was an interview with a journalist from Haaretz.

He pretty much said something like this was inevitable.

Since Oslo things have deteriorated, more right wing administrations have continued tightening the screw onthe Palestinians while continuing to illegally build on occupied land.

When asked about Gaza,he said it was a prison and all discussions about Gaza involve improving the conditions inside the prison, none were about opening the doors.

This has the potential to kick off all over the ME.

The American fleet is in Bahrain, a Shia majority country, (like Iran) ruled over by a tiny Sunni elite.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 14 Oct, 2023 04:20 am
@izzythepush,
Yitzhak Rabin was the last Israeli leader genuinely comitted to peace, and he was murdered by far right Israeli terrorists.

That's when the descent started.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 14 Oct, 2023 04:35 am
@izzythepush,
The problem with protests is that there is no even handedness over here.

The Home Secretary Suella Braverman is an Islamophobic bigot.

She is on record pretty much blaming all child grooming, and paedophilia, on Muslim men the day after a load of white, non Muslim, people were jailedfor such behaviour.

She lied about that and about the way the small boats refugees were treated and about where they were kept, outbreaks of legionnaires desease, and other problems.

Like Sunak she's a Hindu and the problems they have with Muslims are long standing.

She's even tried to make flying the Palestinian flag a criminal offence.

It's not, and I want to make it very clear where I stand on this.

Flying the flag of Hamas, a proscribed terrorist organisation, is illegal.

Flying the Palestinian flag isn't unless it's being used deliberately provocatively.

Pro Palestinian supporters should stay away from Jewish neighbourhoods and places of worship because that is confrontational, intimidatory and antisemitic.

The only places to protest are places of civic power, town halls and the like.

The only legitimate "Jewish" place to protest is outside the Israeli embassy, and that's it.
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hightor
 
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Reply Sat 14 Oct, 2023 04:49 am
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Today marks ten days since the United States House of Representatives voted to toss out the speaker, leaving the House unable to conduct business. This situation is unprecedented. And yet the Republicans cannot manage to elect a new speaker from among their ranks, and the party’s leadership refuses to work with the Democrats, who remain united behind House minority leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY). Jeffries has repeatedly offered to work with the Republicans.

Now the House has recessed for the weekend.

With a war in Europe and a war in the Middle East and government funding running out on November 17, not to mention all the other work that falls to Congress, the House did not hold a single floor vote this week.

Essentially, the Republican extremists have paralyzed the government in the midst of an unusually dangerous time. While President Joe Biden and the Democrats are trying to demonstrate that democracy works better than authoritarianism, they seem bent on undermining that idea.

Here’s how the day played out: After Louisiana representative Steve Scalise withdrew from the contest yesterday, Ohio representative Jim Jordan was the only one running until a relatively unknown representative, Austin Scott of Georgia, threw his hat in the ring as an anti-Jordan candidate. Scott, who had previously taken a stand against the extremists, said: “We are in Washington to legislate, and I want to lead a House that functions in the best interest of the American people.” When the conference voted, Scott won 81 votes to Jordan’s 124, with 16 of the members not showing up for the vote.

When the conference held another secret vote to count how many people would support Jordan in a floor vote, only 152 said they would. Fifty-five said no, and one voted present. Jordan remains a long way from the 217 votes he needs to win the chair if all members are present, and his allies’ threats to vulnerable members that if they did not support him they could expect to face primary challenges did not endear him to the holdouts.

Some Republicans are now calling for acting speaker Patrick McHenry (R-NC) to have more powers than simply arranging for the election of a new speaker. But since the Constitution specifies that “[t]he House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker” and McHenry was tapped by former speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) alone to replace him in case of an emergency, that’s likely going to be a hard sell.

Others are hoping to reelect McCarthy himself. While McCarthy says he is backing Jordan, he is also spending time in front of the television cameras acting like a leader. Being begged to reclaim the speakership would undoubtedly give him more power than he had before the extremists toppled him.

It remains astonishing that the Republicans would consider making Jordan speaker. The hallmarks of that position are an ability to negotiate and to shepherd legislation through Congress (think of all former speaker Nancy Pelosi got done with the same slim majority the Republicans have). Jordan has none of those qualities; he is a flamethrower who, in 16 years in the House, has not managed to get a single bill through the House, let alone into law. Jordan’s elevation would reflect that for many years now, Republicans have elevated those who disdain government and whose goal is to stop it from working.

Jordan is also a key Trump ally who worked to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. Former representative Liz Cheney (R-WY) has been clear she opposes Jordan’s elevation to House speaker. Today she wrote:

“Jim Jordan was involved in Trump’s conspiracy to steal the election and seize power; he urged that [former vice president Mike] Pence refuse to count lawful electoral votes. If R[epublican]s nominate Jordan to be Speaker, they will be abandoning the Constitution. They’ll lose the House majority and they’ll deserve to.”

The Republicans plan to hold yet another conference on Monday and hope to elect a speaker on Tuesday. But it is not at all clear they can agree on a candidate. Representative Don Bacon (R-NE) is one of those who is beginning to talk about bipartisanship as a matter of practicality. “A lot of folks are in denial but you're never gonna get eight or 10 folks on board. And so I think the bipartisan path is going to be the only way out,” he told Arthur Delany of HuffPost.

hcr
blatham
 
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Reply Sat 14 Oct, 2023 07:18 am
@Bogulum,
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I looked over my posts for the last few pages and saw that Blatham was owed an apology - which I have offered him. I also apologize to the forum in general for any dragging down effect my posts caused.

It isn't a big thing, snood. My friendships are not easily damaged and we were all just yakking like we silly humans do. I've no bad feelings here.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 14 Oct, 2023 07:21 am
@hightor,
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Jordan’s elevation would reflect that for many years now, Republicans have elevated those who disdain government and whose goal is to stop it from working.

That seems to me precisely the key element.
blatham
 
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Reply Sat 14 Oct, 2023 07:46 am
Quote:
Holy War
I.F. Stone
“A certain moral imbecility marks all ethnocentric movements. The Others are always either less than human, and thus their interests may be ignored, or more than human and therefore so dangerous that it is right to destroy them.”
August 3, 1967 issue
NYRB
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 14 Oct, 2023 08:48 pm
@izzythepush,
It's quite a briar patch as well as a powder keg.
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