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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
candide1984
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2023 07:04 am
@Lash,
They don't see it. The censorship is justified because they are righteous and acting against the evil conservatives. So to deny people their first amendment rights is heroic and rebellious for the sake of the marginalized, the victim, the minority. Free speech is an outdated product of old white slave owners that we have evolved past. Dissent is white supremacy. Truth and facts are disinformation that need to be censored for the welfare of the people in this new just society of the liberal vision. In my humble opinion. I'm an ex-leftist. An ex-Marxist reformed. Were becoming more common. I'm not proud of it
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candide1984
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2023 07:17 am
@izzythepush,
Do you ever counter anything with an argument or just go around convicting people publicly? If you have an argument against this person to support these accusations lets hear it. Otherwise you contribute to the deterioration of society. Truth is not disinformation. Opinions are not disinformation. Things you don't agree with are not whatever you chose they are to dismiss them. This is preschool 101 of civics. The basics of free speech, debate, an open forum were established. Liberal fascist now want to redefine it and call it "progressive" when these Marxist tactics have been tried over and over again.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2023 07:20 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:


Alright. This is really important. Not just for Wisconsin but for the coming election. The more liberal candidate for state Supreme Court has won big time over the more conservative candidate by 57.5 to 42.5. Abortion was the key element in this race which stands as a harbinger for the next federal election.

Very, very good news.

Edit: And here's that conservative candidate after the election was called.
Quote:
“I wish that in a circumstance like this I would be able to concede to a worthy opponent. But I do not have a worthy opponent.”

— Former Justice Daniel Kelly delivers a fiery speech, calling WI Justice-elect Janet Protasiewicz “beneath contempt” and a “serial liar.”



Just further evidence that in order to be an American conservative these days...you cannot have (or show) any class whatsoever!

Their leader is totally classless...and they all aspire to classlessness!
Lash
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2023 07:34 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

"In America you get as much justice as you can afford." - O. J. Simpson

"The only justice in the 'Halls of Justice', is in the halls." - Lenny Bruce

👍🏽
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2023 07:43 am
@candide1984,
Don't talk to ne.

I don't converse with fascists.

Your points are beneath contempt, and not worthy of debate.

candide1984
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2023 07:47 am
@Frank Apisa,
In desperation in the current failing liberal experiment the liberal when confronted very plainly in clear simple language calls us classless. "Berate don't debate" is the liberal way. censorship, rigged elections, public persecution, mob violence is not progressive. It's old as hell and that the conservative has to tell the liberal that only to be told they are classless is laughable.
blatham
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2023 08:19 am
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
Just further evidence that in order to be an American conservative these days...you cannot have (or show) any class whatsoever!

Their leader is totally classless...and they all aspire to classlessness!

A few days ago I noted Trump's attack on Rove and Barr as being RINOs. Of course, Rove has been pretty much absent in the modern GOP-world for some years now even though he was one individual responsible (since his college Republican days) for strategizing the removal of moderates from positions of power and influence and pushing the party further right. There are a lot of folks like him (such as Liz Cheney and Bill Kristol who were once featured and regular guests on Fox) but who have been now been cast out because the Frankenstein creature they helped create had an insatiable appetite for identifying and destroying the internal traitors and enemies. The conservative movement became something rather like a Stalinist murder machine. Trump seems almost inevitable.
blatham
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2023 08:21 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Re: candide1984 (Post 7313929)
Don't talk to ne.

A quite perfect candidate for the "ignore" button.
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candide1984
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2023 08:24 am
@izzythepush,
Yes, we have a deal
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2023 08:30 am
@candide1984,
candide1984 wrote:

In desperation in the current failing liberal experiment the liberal when confronted very plainly in clear simple language calls us classless. "Berate don't debate" is the liberal way. censorship, rigged elections, public persecution, mob violence is not progressive. It's old as hell and that the conservative has to tell the liberal that only to be told they are classless is laughable.


Trump likes to suppose the reason he is being targeted by prosecutors is because of vengeance, politics, pettiness or other kinds of bullshit. In his mind, it never is because he is lawless.

But he is lawless...and THAT is the reason prosecutors are occupied with him.

You conservatives like to suppose non-conservatives describe you as classless because of prejudices we have...rather than because of an accurate assessment of your social deficiencies.

Unfortunately, the reason many of us consider you to be classless...is because you ARE classless. I see absolutely NONE in Trump...and NONE in any of his supporters.
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blatham
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2023 08:32 am
@izzythepush,
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@blatham,
These are the crowd who get off on school shootings.

I don't think they get off on it, izzy. It seems to me that school children and church parishioners and innocent civilians blasted into bloody bits of bone and flesh and exploded craniums are just far less important to them than the beauty of weapons and the ugliness of queers.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2023 08:33 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Quote:
Just further evidence that in order to be an American conservative these days...you cannot have (or show) any class whatsoever!

Their leader is totally classless...and they all aspire to classlessness!

A few days ago I noted Trump's attack on Rove and Barr as being RINOs. Of course, Rove has been pretty much absent in the modern GOP-world for some years now even though he was one individual responsible (since his college Republican days) for strategizing the removal of moderates from positions of power and influence and pushing the party further right. There are a lot of folks like him (such as Liz Cheney and Bill Kristol who were once featured and regular guests on Fox) but who have been now been cast out because the Frankenstein creature they helped create had an insatiable appetite for identifying and destroying the internal traitors and enemies. The conservative movement became something rather like a Stalinist murder machine. Trump seems almost inevitable.


Yup!

The RINO designation is just a variation on the No True Scotsman fallacy. Essentially they are saying that no true Republican would not be kissing Trump's ass at every moment possible.

Not sure about your, "Trump seems almost inevitable"...but Trump better be watching his back. The Frankenstein he created can be a bitch.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2023 08:38 am
@blatham,
The Sandy Hook protestors definitely got off on it.

Alex Jones clearly gets sexually aroused by looking at pictures of dead children.

That's why they want the abortion ban, more children for NRA target practice.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2023 08:40 am
@Frank Apisa,
Never heard that expression, and I've been to Scotland.

(Not for a while mind, the closest was last week in Whitby N Yorkshire.)

We went to the Dracula Experience, best value fiver I've spent for a long time.
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candide1984
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2023 08:50 am
The most defining characteristic or tactic of the fascists is censorship. that they have established the truth and because it is the truth it can not be disputed or debated. Those that dispute it are an enemy of the people and the truth and a threat to the welfare of society as a whole. therefore it is justified they are censored. This new liberal American fascism can not be associated with censorship. Instead every and anybody with a differing voice other then the official liberal truth is a "fascist", "a white supremist", "a conspiracy theorist", spreading "disinformation", "a conservative", a "Nazi". Take your pick. It don't matter. Take the most fitting accusation, apply it to that dissenting voice and remove it from the public. liberal fascist censorship sanctified in the fight against "fascism". The fascist anti-fascist.
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blatham
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2023 08:52 am
@hightor,
Quote:
“We just lost the Wisconsin Supreme Court. I do not see a path to 270 in 2024.”

...Across the state, Republican numbers slumped. Political commentator Brian Tyler Cohen noted: “Republicans are losing across the country, even in historically red areas—Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin. The abortion bans, climate denial, gun idolatry, anti-democratic behavior and extremism has lost them entire generations of Americans.”

And all of this even after the early afternoon's Trump indictment. Right wing voices were and are repeated the soothing chant that this indictment guarantees a Trump victory in the next election. Many even seem to believe it though I suspect that many others, including Trump himself, fear exactly the opposite is highly likely but see no path forward other than pushing this messianic narrative as hard as they can. As a story for their base, it's all they've got.
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hightor
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2023 08:54 am
@candide1984,
Apparently you're not getting the reception you feel you deserve. But all you're offering is basic right-wing talking points about "censorship, rigged elections, public persecution, mob violence" – without offering detailed examples of what you mean. You show up and start off by lobbing generalized insults and then complain when you get insulted in return.

You bitch about "censorship" while your MAGA movement is removing books from public libraries, banning the use of certain words, and attempting to curtail press freedom.

You haven't provided any evidence of these "rigged elections" (nor has anyone else).

"Public persecution" is a bit hyperbolic – controversial public figures often get unwanted attention and this scrutiny sometimes leads to the discovery of questionable actions by them, like Mrs. Clinton's emails, Hunter Biden's laptop, Romney's "vulture capitalism", or "pussy-grabbing" Trump paying hush money to a porn star. This sort of exposure is the price highly visible people pay when they are resented by various constituencies.

And it's pretty one-sided for you to decry "mob violence" after the January 6th insurrection which was planned and executed for the expressed purpose of preventing the orderly transition of power to the rightful winner of the presidential election.

I don't believe you've made a convincing case for anything other than your ability to parade your right-wing opinions on an online forum.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2023 08:55 am
Fascists ban books in Florida schools.

We don't put up with that **** over here.
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Mame
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2023 09:01 am
@hightor,
Amen!
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 5 Apr, 2023 09:03 am
I would imagine Voltaire's classic would run foul of the Fascist Republican school censors with all its accounts of rape and female bondage.
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