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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2022 02:12 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
"About the person" vs "against the person" is nitpicking.
Not in Latin: the Prefix anti- is quite different to the adverb contra.
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2022 03:22 pm

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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2022 06:47 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
In English, it has the identical meaning.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2022 10:25 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
both sides are claiming victory after the judge denied the doctor’s motion for an injunction.


So basically the Judge split the "baby" in half, he's dort of a hick Solomon.
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Builder
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2022 10:40 pm
@Region Philbis,
If you think Hunter Biden hasn't used his father's position for personal profit,
I have a lovely bridge in Sydney you might be interested in buying.

The Big Guy always gets a cut, remember?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2022 10:49 pm
@Lash,
Might be so.
But my response was about "ad hominem".
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2022 11:22 pm
@Builder,
HuffPost

Trump Calls For 'Termination' Of Constitution Over Elon Musk's 'Twitter Files' Leak

Sara Boboltz
Sat, December 3, 2022 at 5:39 PM·3 min read


Former President Donald Trump called Saturday for the “termination” of articles of the Constitution following the “Twitter files” leak of a series of messages between the social media platform’s leaders in the run-up to the 2020 presidential election.

Trump suggested that the contents of the leak warranted a complete election re-do or simply a coup in which he would be installed as president.

“A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” Trump wrote on Truth Social, the platform he started after being kicked off Twitter early 2021.

In a follow-up post, he added: “UNPRECEDENTED FRAUD REQUIRES UNPRECEDENTED CURE!”

On Friday evening, author Matt Taibbi posted a thread of dozens of tweets that he titled “THE TWITTER FILES,” alleging that his story offered bombshell revelations about free speech on Twitter. Some conservatives claim Taibbi’s tweets prove that Twitter improperly influenced the result of the last presidential election, although the story has been panned as overhyped and misleading.

The purportedly leaked messages discussed content moderation decisions ― specifically, how Twitter would handle the New York Post story about the sordid contents of a laptop reportedly belonging to Hunter Biden. The laptop’s contents ranged from explicit photographs of Joe Biden’s son and his romantic partners to emails about his work advising Burisma, the Ukrainian energy company.

At the time, many intelligence experts thought the story’s provenance was highly suspect, given the threat of foreign disinformation in the weeks leading up to a monumental election. A group of more than 50 former intelligence officials signed an open letter stating that the laptop story “has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.” Tech companies that were excoriated for allowing disinformation to flow freely on major social platforms during the 2016 presidential campaign were not keen to make the same mistakes.

Since then, at least some of the information from the laptop has been authenticated by news outlets that are not owned by right-wing billionaire Rupert Murdoch.

But in all the uncertainty of late 2020, Twitter went to relatively extreme lengths to deal with the laptop story: The platform blocked it. Sharing a link to the New York Post story meant your account could be locked until you deleted it, which is what happened to then-White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany.

This brings us back to the “Twitter Files” leak.

Twitter’s new overlord, the billionaire Elon Musk, had teased and hyped the thread with popcorn emojis in the hours before, writing, “This will be awesome.”

Taibbi claimed he had been given access to “thousands of internal documents obtained by sources at Twitter.” In what he promised would be the first in a series of installments to “The Twitter Files,” Taibbi shared screenshots of conversations that high-level Twitter executives supposedly had.

The company’s leaders settled on saying that the New York Post story violated its rules against hacked materials, although later, they reversed this decision. One email purportedly showed how Twitter executives heard from Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.), who said suppressing the Post story had angered lawmakers on both sides of the aisle and was not in line with First Amendment principles.

Some conservatives reacted with particular outrage at another point in Taibbi’s thread, where he shared what appeared to be a request from someone on Joe Biden’s team. At the time, Biden was still just a presidential candidate, and someone had asked Twitter to remove several tweets. While some reacted as if this amounted to collusion, the tweets in question contained nude photos of the president’s son taken from his laptop.

The entire “Twitter Files” saga does seem to make one point clear: The complicated necessity of content moderation on major internet platforms.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2022 12:39 am
@bobsal u1553115,
time for a firing squad for thetreasonous bastard. one seditious cospiracy insurrectyon wasn't enough, he's upping the stakes and expliciyly treasonously so, he's noy even trying minimally to hide it.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2022 01:19 am
@bobsal u1553115,
trump is clearly demanding a fascist'style coup d:'etat..in violation of yhe 14th amendment to tyhe constiution. He should immediately be bannned from running for president.
snood
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2022 03:04 am
@MontereyJack,
He should immediately be indicted, convicted and imprisoned. But that’s splitting hairs.
Builder
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2022 03:21 am
@snood,
He's basically repeating what the founding fathers said about government over-run,
but don't let that get in the way of your obtuse hatred of the individual.
hightor
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2022 03:31 am
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjBGDDuXoAYholl?format=jpg&name=360x360
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hightor
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2022 03:41 am
Quote:
Today, one of former president Trump’s messages on the struggling right-wing social media platform Truth Social went viral. 

In the message, Trump again insisted that the 2020 presidential election had been characterized by “MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION,” and suggested the country should “throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or…have a NEW ELECTION.” 

Then he added: “A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!” 

In other words, Trump is calling for the overthrow of the Constitution that established this nation. He advocates the establishment of a dictator. 

This outrageous statement seems to reflect desperation from the former president as his political star fades and the many legal suits proceeding against him get closer and closer to their end dates. 

The midterm elections, in which the high-profile candidates he backed lost, prompted some members of his party to suggest it’s time to move on to new candidates. At the same time, lawsuits are heating up. The Department of Justice continues to investigate Trump’s role in the attempt to overturn the 2020 election, an attempt that led to the events of January 6, 2021.

Chief Judge Beryl Howell of the Washington, D.C., District Court recently rejected Trump’s claims of executive privilege and ordered Trump’s White House counsel, Pat Cipollone, and deputy counsel, Patrick Philbin, to provide additional testimony to a federal grand jury. On Friday, they each testified for several hours. On November 29, Trump advisor Stephen Miller, who worked with Trump on his speech at the Ellipse, also testified before the grand jury, 

The Department of Justice is also investigating Trump’s theft of documents when he left the White House. The December 1 decision of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit declaring that Judge Aileen Cannon had no authority to allow Trump a special master to review the materials the FBI took when they searched Mar-a-Lago on August 8, 2022, had a very clear, concise rundown of what the government has so far recovered from the former president, and the list was damning. 

In the first group of documents Trump returned to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), after significant pressure to do so, included “184 documents marked at varying levels of classification, including twenty-five marked top secret.” After a subpoena, Trump’s lawyers returned another 38 classified documents, seventeen of which were marked top secret. Trump’s team declared that a “diligent search” had turned up only these items, and there were no more left.

But the FBI learned that there were, in fact, more documents still at Mar-a-Lago and obtained a search warrant. On August 8, FBI agents retrieved about “13,000 documents and a number of other items, totaling more than 22,000 pages of material…. [F]ifteen of the thirty-three seized boxes, containers, or groups of papers contained documents with classification markings, including three such documents found in desks” in Trump’s office. Agents found more than 100 documents marked confidential, secret, or top secret.

Attorney General Merrick Garland appointed Special Counsel Jack Smith to oversee these two investigations after Trump announced an early candidacy for president in 2024. Smith got down to work immediately, sending out a letter on Thanksgiving Day itself. It seems likely there is good reason for Trump to be concerned.

Meanwhile, Georgia’s Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis is investigating Trump’s attempt to overturn the results of President Joe Biden’s 2020 election victory, and South Carolina’s Supreme Court has ordered Trump’s White House Chief of staff Mark Meadows to testify to that grand jury, another reason for the former president to be concerned.

And the Trump Organization’s trial for tax evasion is reaching a verdict, while the House Ways and Means Committee has finally received six years of Trump’s tax returns after years of attempts by the former president to keep them out of Congress’s hands. At Lawfare, Daniel J. Hemel says that as a matter of law, the committee can make the returns public. He counsels against it for a number of reasons (although he says they should be made public) but notes that the Senate Finance Committee, which will remain in Democratic hands, can now get access to the material easily and will be able to release it. If his attempt to hide his taxes was anything other than principled, there is reason for Trump to be concerned about this as well. 

So, the former president has reason to try to grab headlines with an outrageous statement about overthrowing the Constitution.

But the real story here is not Trump’s panic about his fading relevance and his legal exposure; it’s that Trump remains the presumptive presidential nominee for the Republican Party in 2024. The leader of the Republican Party has just called for the overthrow of our fundamental law and the installation of a dictator. 

White House Deputy Press Secretary Andrew Bates said in a statement: “The American Constitution is a sacrosanct document that for over 200 years has guaranteed that freedom and the rule of law prevail in our great country. The Constitution brings the American people together—regardless of party—and elected leaders swear to uphold it. It’s the ultimate monument to all of the Americans who have given their lives to defeat self-serving despots that abused their power and trampled on fundamental rights. Attacking the Constitution and all it stands for is anathema to the soul of our nation, and should be universally condemned. You cannot only love America when you win.”

But Republicans, so far, are silent on Trump’s profound attack on the Constitution, the basis of our democratic government. 

That is the story, and it is earth shattering.

hcr
hightor
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2022 03:58 am
@Builder,
Quote:
He's basically repeating what the founding fathers said about government over-run, but don't let that get in the way of your obtuse hatred of the individual.


You're deluded, and likely overtired; he's basically saying nothing of the kind:

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.substack.com%2Fmedia%2FFjDwid8XEAwsZ2q.jpg

While electronic communication didn't exist in the late 18th Century, slander, lies, and misinformation on the part of print media were not uncommon. Nowhere in the Constitution are they linked with "False & Fraudulent Elections". Pres. Adams did employ the Sedition Act, which is much closer to being a violation of free speech, but he was actually in office at the time. Termination of constitutional authority is simply not mentioned at all. The DNC, the Democratic Party, and the big tech companies were not in charge of the federal government, Biden wasn't president, and Congress hadn't passed any law affecting the right of free speech.

Good night Builder. Get some rest.
Builder
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2022 04:00 am
@hightor,
Quote:
But Republicans, so far, are silent on Trump’s profound attack on the Constitution, the basis of our democratic government. 


When a feeble-minded paedophile, with a drug addicted son, who is peddling his connections for profit to China and Ukraine, manages to "win" an election, without even bothering to campaign, then Houston, we have a problem.

Your source isn't a political advocate. She's a historian of dubious qualifications.

Quote:
That is the story, and it is earth shattering.
Heather Cox Richardson is an American historian and professor of history at Boston College, where she teaches courses on the American Civil War, the Reconstruction Era, the American West, and the Plains Indians. She previously taught history at MIT and the University of Massachusetts Amherst.
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Builder
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2022 04:05 am
@hightor,
Quote:
You're deluded, and likely overtired; he's basically saying nothing of the kind:


You're quoting sources without any political nouse, and you are daily demonstrating your ignorance of international time zones.

Some moderator. Pfffftttt.

hightor
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2022 05:40 am
@Builder,
Quote:
When a feeble-minded paedophile, with a drug addicted son, who is peddling his connections for profit to China and Ukraine, manages to "win" an election, without even bothering to campaign, then Houston, we have a problem.

If that's your interpretation of events then it is clearly you who has a "problem".
Quote:
Your source isn't a political advocate.

That's usually considered a good thing.
Quote:
You're quoting sources without any political nouse...

Huh?
Quote:
...and you are daily demonstrating your ignorance of international time zones.

And you daily demonstrate your ignorance of everything else!

I'm sorry that my "good night" message doesn't match your schedule but I want to make sure that it's posted and available for you so you can just click on it before you turn in, no matter what time it is. Pleasant dreams.
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hightor
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2022 05:52 am
Quote:
This is why the forum is dying, and regulars are leaving.

But, thank goodness, we can still read your futile efforts to sound relevant and your feeble attempts at humor. Please don't leave.

Quote:
It'll be just you and a few sycophants soon enough.

Yup, just you and me!
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2022 07:04 am
As some of you will be aware, after repeating his standard "the last election was bogus" claim, Trump posted the following yesterday on his social media site
Quote:
“A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,”

I'm trying to figure out why Trump thought calling for the termination of all laws, even going so far as to include terminating the Constitution would be a good idea and might work to his favor going forward.

Without doubt, since the mid-terms he is acutely aware that his grip on the party is fading and this will almost certainly be made worse when Walker is defeated. And as a consequence, his hopes and maneuvers towards somehow neutralizing the coming indictments are severely threatened.

So, something like panic is surely in the mix. This latest statement won't endear him to the party, obviously, and is almost certainly going to increase the internal dynamic forces working to isolate and remove him from the party.

Is he hoping to engender so much rage and swirling-eyeball craziness among his armed MAGA crowd to drive them towards a high enough level of anti-government sentiment, civil disorder and violence a la Jan 6 that this might provide an escape door for him? Anyone have a better or different take?
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2022 07:33 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Might be so.
But my response was about "ad hominem".


SUPER REPLY!
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