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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
hightor
 
  1  
Wed 17 Mar, 2021 07:04 pm
How Republicans Tried to Rig an Election in North Carolina (And Almost Got Away With It)
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MontereyJack
 
  1  
Wed 17 Mar, 2021 09:01 pm
@oralloy,
the entire trump conduct of the election was one massive cheat, trying to throw out millions of valid dem votes, trying to snaffle the usps so it coiuldnt get allk the ballots back, trying to get election officials to phony the coiunts in his favor filing (and lkosing) 60 vapor lawsuits, inciting the insurrectionists who stormed the capitol to stop the count, throw out the balklots, and name him instead as pres. All, al cheating and an attempt to destroy american kdemocracy.
snood
 
  2  
Wed 17 Mar, 2021 09:16 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

the entire trump conduct of the election was one massive cheat, trying to throw out millions of valid dem votes, trying to snaffle the usps so it coiuldnt get allk the ballots back, trying to get election officials to phony the coiunts in his favor filing (and lkosing) 60 vapor lawsuits, inciting the insurrectionists who stormed the capitol to stop the count, throw out the balklots, and name him instead as pres. All, al cheating and an attempt to destroy american kdemocracy.


Let me guess the answer...

“Wrong again. Mr Trump did nothing wrong. Progressives were trying to frame him. Blah ******* denial deluded blah.”
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snood
 
  1  
Thu 18 Mar, 2021 04:59 am
I am finally hearing some sanity being spoken by democrats about going on and getting rid of the filibuster so that we can pass other crucial, major legislation like voting rights (HR1) and infrastructure.
I hope the tide has changed to drag Manchin and Sinema along, instead of the reverse.

The only threat the republicans are brandishing is that they will do their agenda when they reclaim majority. What I’m finally hearing in response is that there’s no guarantee they WILL get it back - especially in 2022.
oralloy
 
  0  
Thu 18 Mar, 2021 05:48 am
@snood,
snood wrote:
I am finally hearing some sanity being spoken by democrats about going on and getting rid of the filibuster so that we can pass other crucial, major legislation like voting rights (HR1) and infrastructure.
I hope the tide has changed to drag Manchin and Sinema along, instead of the reverse.

The Democrats didn't win enough votes to pass their extremist agenda. When you don't win enough votes, the solution is to be more appealing to the voters next time. The solution is not to destroy America's institutions and impose a dictatorship.


snood wrote:
The only threat the republicans are brandishing is that they will do their agenda when they reclaim majority. What I’m finally hearing in response is that there’s no guarantee they WILL get it back - especially in 2022.

I know progressives are delusional, but it bears repeating. Progressives are delusional.

Anyone who understands politics knows that the Republicans are going to retake the majority in 2022.
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oralloy
 
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Thu 18 Mar, 2021 05:49 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
the entire trump conduct of the election was one massive cheat, trying to throw out millions of valid dem votes,

I'm not sure what you are referring to, but they would only have been thrown out for good reason.

Invalidating illicit votes is hardly cheating.


MontereyJack wrote:
trying to snaffle the usps so it couldnt get all the ballots back,

Fictional conspiracy theory.


MontereyJack wrote:
trying to get election officials to phony the counts in his favor

That's hardly what he was trying to do. He was looking for legitimate corrections to the tally.


MontereyJack wrote:
filing (and losing) 60 vapor lawsuits,

Filing a lawsuit isn't cheating either.


MontereyJack wrote:
inciting the insurrectionists who stormed the capitol to stop the count, throw out the ballots, and name him instead as pres.

People have the right to protest against leftist cheating.


MontereyJack wrote:
All, al cheating and an attempt to destroy american democracy.

That is incorrect. None of that amounted to cheating.
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Thu 18 Mar, 2021 06:45 am
@oralloy,
Pushing for valid votes to be thrown out and overrturn the election is where the cheating is. as usual you have thingsreversed.
snood
 
  1  
Thu 18 Mar, 2021 06:50 am
The last time the Voting Rights Act came before the Senate for a vote on restoring it was in 2006. It passed 98-2, and George W. Bush signed it into law.

Right now when the senate is polled and projections are made, they are split 50/50 on whether the Voting Rights Act needs to be restored.

Think on it a couple of clicks and then tell me...
What do you think changed?
revelette3
 
  2  
Thu 18 Mar, 2021 09:24 am
@snood,
Mostly what has happened is the GOP has become radicalized into a 'us against them party'. They have also become more openly bigoted.

Let Them Eat Culture Wars: Why Republicans Have Abandoned Governing for Nonsense | Opinion

Any honest person knows there is still way too much racial bigotry in this country and it has been only the laws brought about by the civil rights activist of sixties that has been a safety net so to speak for minorities to able address civil rights violation acts made against them. If there aren't laws in place to address discrimination, then there is no where to go to make it right.

It is like a person with heart disease who has heart damage (me) suddenly saying to themselves, I feel better so there is no need for me to take my medicine and eat right.
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revelette3
 
  2  
Thu 18 Mar, 2021 09:31 am
Poverty as a Proxy for Race in Voter Suppression

Quote:
You just can’t be racist the way you used to.

Monumental legal cases invoking the 14th Amendment, the “equal justice” amendment, have made it unconstitutional to use blunt, explicit racism to suppress and victimize Black people while elevating and advantaging white ones.

To achieve those nefarious ends today, politicians must use a sneakier, less direct mechanism. And very often, that mechanism is to place burdens on the poorest citizens, knowing that poverty heavily afflicts — and can serve as a proxy for — Black people.

That is exactly what is happening now as Republicans, still fuming about the loss of the White House and the Senate, rush to make it harder for people to vote — many of them Black and brown people.

There are two ways to win an election: convince enough voters that you are best suited for the job, or rid the electorate of as many people who would vote against you as possible.
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hightor
 
  4  
Thu 18 Mar, 2021 12:02 pm
Democrats Promised Climate Action. Now, Chuck Schumer Stalls a Key Project.

The sellout begins...
snood
 
  1  
Thu 18 Mar, 2021 01:24 pm
@hightor,
Bad enough that Schumer is selling out for his rich friends in the Hamptons, but he’s trying to pass it off as helping the “middle and working class”.





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Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 18 Mar, 2021 01:36 pm
For someone like me from outside the USA it seems that there are quite a few barriers in front of the ballot box, like imposing strict voter ID laws, cutting voting times, restricting registration, and purging voter rolls.

Analysis (WP): Which is easier in your state: Buying a rifle or voting?
Quote:
One might be forgiven for assuming that the order of amendments to the Constitution reflects the country’s shifting priorities since its conception. That the First Amendment protects speech and religion probably accurately reflects that these were seen as more important than, say, the amendment preventing homeowners from having to shelter soldiers — but given that this prohibition is the Third Amendment, maybe not.

It is nonetheless the case that the country got around to instantiating the right to own a firearm (Second Amendment) before it decided that the right of non-Whites to vote (Fifteenth Amendment) was important to establish, much less the right of women (Nineteenth) or 18-year-olds (Twenty-Sixth). Whatever asterisks one believes should apply to the Constitution’s provision of a right to bear arms, if any, it’s clear that this right was in existence well before an 18-year-old Black woman had the right to vote.

That alone reflects on the evolution of the United States. Americans needed guns in 1790 in case the British came back (which, of course, they did). It was about preserving power. But so were the limits on who could vote. The White men who had that power similarly wanted to protect it, and did.

Now, more than 200 years after the Constitution was ratified, we still see tensions between how easy it is for people to avail themselves of these two rights. In Georgia this week, we saw a man reportedly purchase a firearm hours before using it to allegedly kill eight people. At the same time, Republicans in the state legislature are pushing to scale back access to voting in the state, a response to unfounded claims of fraud and the election of President Biden.

That contrast between easy gun access and more difficult access to voting prompted a number of questions about the ease with which Georgians can exercise each of those rights. With that in mind, we pulled data on the ease with which one can buy a firearm or vote in each state to show how that contrast looks around the country.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  6  
Thu 18 Mar, 2021 01:37 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
https://i.imgur.com/UmhDGF6.jpg

Quote:
https://i.imgur.com/YBNnFwS.jpg


From the analysis quoted above
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oralloy
 
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Thu 18 Mar, 2021 04:46 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Pushing for valid votes to be thrown out and overrturn the election is where the cheating is. as usual you have things reversed.

It's hard to see how merely pushing for something counts as cheating. If the event is as you characterize it, that would be attempted cheating.

I am still not clear what event you are specifically referring to, so I cannot say whether I agree with your characterization of the event.

You cannot provide any examples of me ever having anything reversed.
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oralloy
 
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Thu 18 Mar, 2021 04:47 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Washington Post wrote:
That alone reflects on the evolution of the United States. Americans needed guns in 1790 in case the British came back (which, of course, they did). It was about preserving power.

The militia was "needed" to protect the polity 840 years ago when Englishmen were concerned about repelling Viking raids.

But the militia was not "needed" 230 years ago when the Second Amendment was placed near the top of the US Bill of Rights. The early United States had the capability of maintaining a large standing army if they wanted to do so.

The Framers chose to have a militia instead of a permanent standing army when they created our new nation.
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Builder
 
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Sat 20 Mar, 2021 04:52 pm
The memes about creepy Joe falling up the steps of Airforce one are coming thick and fast. Those pointy dress shoes suck for grip.
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BillW
 
  2  
Sat 20 Mar, 2021 07:01 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

Hopefully Mr. Putin will help the American people resist and undermine the Biden Administration.
Don't worry, you're being watched!!!!!
glitterbag
 
  3  
Sat 20 Mar, 2021 07:37 pm
@BillW,
He has no idea what it takes to be approved for a security clearance. Even the people on our char force had to be cleared and if it was discovered you were a supporter of a hostile government, you can kiss that job goodbye.

BillW
 
  2  
Sat 20 Mar, 2021 10:19 pm
@glitterbag,
He has said enough on these threads that the FBI is following him. A person can not pledge allegiance to Putin and not be watched. That's all I'm saying.

This is one of the worst times the US has gone through since the Civil War. There are so many new people on the watch lists: police, security guards, Armed Forces, Federal Gov't employees. It is incredible how many. If these orgs (Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, etc) don't think they are infiltrated already, well, they are crazier than I thought!

https://theconversation.com/after-the-insurrection-americas-far-right-groups-get-more-extreme-156463
 

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