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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2022 08:02 am
News reports say people were prevented from leaving early.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2022 08:09 am
@Frank Apisa,
You actually have the life experience to say if an investigation into a situation like the one the Orange Shitgibbon has gotten us to, is not taking overly long time.

We've never dealt with the level of crime he produced, and he did things no one else has ever committed from the White House before.

He's going down and Garlin will be one of his biggest prosecutors.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2022 08:12 am
@Lash,
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So, you don’t acknowledge that we have any interest in the collaboration or success of the BRICS alliance?


Trying to pin down jelly? Good luck! Get ready for the side-step.
revelette1
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2022 09:03 am
@Lash,
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Bombs landed in Poland, killed two, Poland cleared airspace except for their patrolling jets.

Russia said it wasn’t them.

Seems like everyone hopes it is. Some papers are already claiming it to be Russian. Wanting their casus belli. Pretty big story.

Wonder what will happen
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While this is happening, Turkey was just rocked with a terrorist bomb attack.


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It appears that today is the day that the US has decided to stop BRICS. Turkey and Russia are getting the squeeze.


What exactly are you accusing the US of doing to stop BRICS.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2022 09:26 am
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:
What exactly are you accusing the US of doing to stop BRICS.
BRICS current President Pro Tempore is Putin, the organisations headquarters are in Shanghai.
Might be, Lash has some ideas. (Lash wrote: "Turkey and Russia are getting the squeeze." Turkey is a G20 member country.)
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2022 09:48 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

If NASA launches their new moon rocket in the middle of the night tonight, people throughout Florida should have a great nighttime view of


Shaun the sheep.
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2022 09:51 am
@revelette1,
https://www.axios.com/2022/11/14/turkey-claims-us-complicit-istanbul-attack

Turkish Interior Minister Suleyman Soylu on Monday rejected the condolences the U.S. offered following this weekend's deadly attack in Istanbul and accused Washington of complicity.

Driving the news: Six people were killed and more than 80 wounded on Sunday in the deadliest attack in Turkey in five years. The Turkish government arrested a suspect, who authorities claim was sent by Kurdish militants in Syria to commit the attack.

Soylu pointed the finger specifically at the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) and the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), two Kurdish groups that Turkey's government effectively views as part of the same terrorist organization.
The PKK denied involvement and said it does not target civilians. An SDF spokesperson also denied any role in the attack.

The big picture: The U.S. also considers the PKK — which advocates for Kurdish autonomy and has a long history of conducting attacks inside Turkey — to be a terrorist group. Washington outraged its Turkish allies by working closely with the SDF in the successful campaign against ISIS in Syria.

After the Biden administration expressed condolences, Soylu said that was like "the murderer arriving as one of the first at the scene of the crime."
A State Department spokesperson told Axios the U.S. "stands in solidarity with Turkey, our valued NATO Ally," but also criticized Soylu's remark.
"We reject and are deeply disappointed by any irresponsible comments to suggest that the United States had any role or responsibility in this despicable attack on Turkish citizens," the spokesperson said.
Editor's note: This story was updated with comment from the State Department.
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This story initially focused on Turkey’s rejection of US condolences and Turkey’s accusation that the US was complicit in the bombing. Then, obviously the US State Department made their changes.

For Turkey to make the accusation is notable, but far more notable is the BRICS alliance, its ultimate goals, and how severely that alliance and that goal effects the US.

I believe that Russia v Ukraine and the attacks in Turkey, and the wrecking of the Nordstream pipeline was directed by the US in order to stop or to send grave warnings to the BRICS / Russia + China + OPEC+ alliance.

The US is not the only global villain, for sure, but if you’ve ever read about our own government’s admission of international and national COINTELPRO programs, and if you have a basic understanding of what’s happening currently on the global stage—and if you further can dispassionately assess who has motivation to make a move—you could at least understand why someone might suspect a certain player of a certain action.



snood
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2022 10:04 am
@engineer,
engineer wrote:

But it makes what should be a straightforward investigation look political and that is what Trump is counting on.


“Makes it looks political”. “What Trump is counting on”.

What do these things have to do with Garland’s ******* JOB - to indict and prosecute those suspected guilty of federal crime?

He made a VOW and he has a ******* JOB to do.

You’re parroting excuses for him not doing it.


Speaking of people counting on things, Garland is counting on the whole country being concerned with those excuses.

And please don’t tell me you’re just saying what reality is.

Reality is, if Trump gets away with this, we can never expect protection from those crimes again.

Are you okay with that?
snood
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2022 10:06 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

You actually have the life experience to say if an investigation into a situation like the one the Orange Shitgibbon has gotten us to, is not taking overly long time.

We've never dealt with the level of crime he produced, and he did things no one else has ever committed from the White House before.

He's going down and Garlin will be one of his biggest prosecutors.


Well tell me then, bobsal - what in the unholy **** is Garland waiting for?
engineer
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2022 10:11 am
@snood,
I'm ok with the FBI holding off sixty days before an election for political figures. I'm not ok with them continuing to do so now that the election is over.
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revelette1
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2022 11:05 am
@Walter Hinteler,
I know less than nothing about the whole subject of BRICS or even really the G20. I even had to google BRICS to find out what it is. Then I googled turkey and brics together and come up with several articles linking them. The following might be outdated, I expect you will know.

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The Russian invasion of Ukraine not only led to a war between the two countries, but also brought about a discursive and value-laden struggle between western and eastern countries. The most recent developments indicate that the East-West axis in international relations entail costs on both sides. Political, military, and economic changes in the Middle East, the Caucasus, and the Balkans immensely affect the choices of regional actors’ foreign policies who have to choose between the policy options set before them by Russia, China, or the Western powers with the U.S. taking the lead among the latter.

Meanwhile, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey act in accordance with the realities of contemporary multipolar global politics. Turkey, for example, as a regional player successfully maintains political, military, and economic ties with multiple states, which occasionally have conflicting interests, and avoids a unilateral alignment in its foreign policy. Egypt and Saudi Arabia, two prominent powers in the Middle East, try to pursue their national interests almost independently of the great powers’ political, military, and economic agendas.

These three nations, which have lately undergone a degree of political normalization, may now be progressing towards the next level of cooperation within one of the most important groupings of emerging economies, namely BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa). In this regard, BRICS as one of the organizations of non-Western actors in the international political and economic system points to the weight of these actors in the international economic system.


https://politicstoday.org/egypt-saudi-arabia-turkey-joining-brics-can-be-a-game-changer/

I am just trying to connect that with terrorist bombing in Turkey with the US so-called "squeeze."
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2022 11:10 am
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:
I am just trying to connect that with terrorist bombing in Turkey with the US so-called "squeeze."
Well, the Turkish government has posed restrictions on social media and broadcasters imposed after the blast, so it's hard to get infos.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2022 11:13 am
@snood,
He's getting his arguments into a row, so as to turn a case into a prosecution.

Florida Man's lawyers, while not being successful on any one writ, have been successful in filing them one by one. Every one he loses gets him closer to his turn in the barrel. We aren't trying to get even, we are trying to further justice. Every door Florida Man's lawyers try to open represent doors we might want to open if we are being prosecuted unfairly or did not do what we're being prosecuted for.

Bad guys get the same rights we do. That protects our rights.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2022 11:50 am
@revelette1,
Lash is quick to rush to judgement, anything that makes the US/Biden/Democrat Party she will jump on long before the facts are known.

Turkey has problems with Kurdish separatists, and the Kurdish nationalist group the PKK is classed as a terrorist organisation.

It's not assimple as that. When the British and French carved up the Ottoman Empire after WW1 they did it with no regard to cultural groups.

It's all straight lines, there is no Kurdistan, but Kurds live in Syria, Iran, Iraq and Turkey.

The West has supported Kurdish groups in the other countries who have ties to the PKK.

Turkey has been luke warm about Sweden and Finland joining NATO due to them giving asylum to Kurdish figures.

If Kurdish terrorists linked to people currently living in Finland and/or Sweden are found to be responsible it would benefit Russia.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2022 11:55 am
@izzythepush,
While the Turkish PKK is branded as a terrorist group not only in Turkey but also in the EU and the USA, the PYD/YPG is considered a terrorist organisation only by Turks. Ankara has long been trying to get Americans and Europeans to label the PYD party and its militia YPG as terrorist groups as well. The conflict flared up openly when Ankara began blocking the Nato accession of Sweden and Finland a few months ago and made its yes for the accession of the two states conditional on a clear stance of the Finns and Swedes on these Kurdish organisations.

Washington's turning away from the PYD/YPG, as demanded by Ankara, could ultimately lead to a withdrawal of US troops from the north-east of the civil war country Syria. Without the support of the Kurds, the only about 1000 US soldiers in Syria would quickly find themselves on lost ground. This would benefit the Syrian regime under Bashar al-Assad. Assad owes his survival as ruler in the civil war solely to the military intervention of Russia and Iran at his side. A withdrawal of US troops would strengthen his position enormously.
snood
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2022 12:09 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

He's getting his arguments into a row, so as to turn a case into a prosecution.

Florida Man's lawyers, while not being successful on any one writ, have been successful in filing them one by one. Every one he loses gets him closer to his turn in the barrel. We aren't trying to get even, we are trying to further justice. Every door Florida Man's lawyers try to open represent doors we might want to open if we are being prosecuted unfairly or did not do what we're being prosecuted for.

Bad guys get the same rights we do. That protects our rights.


Is there ANY length of time after which you would consider it too late to prosecute Trump? Would you be fine with it if we get all the way to the 2024 election with the same inaction from the DOJ?
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2022 12:16 pm
@snood,
"inaction from the DOJ"? There is no reason to believe there is any sort of "inaction". The J6 committee and the DoJ have been in contact and sharing information. It would be improper and unwise for DoJ to be sharing their progress and strategies.

Sources are saying Trump indictments coming in 30-90 days.
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-indictment-predictions/

'The View's Sunny Hostin says Trump indictment is coming in 30-90 days — cites DOJ sources..'

'New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman said ahead of the announcement that the reason Trump wanted to announce so quickly after the midterms was that he thought it would make things more difficult for the Justice Department to indict him.'

'Alyssa Farah Griffin (former Trump White House assistant) agreed she's heard the same thing from her sources.'

Keep the faith. Indictments are coming (my words).



snood
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2022 12:19 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
You didn’t answer my question. I’ll try again. Is there ANY length of time you would consider too long to wait for an indictment of Trump?
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2022 12:34 pm
@snood,
I don't know that there is any standard amount of time to get to trial. Do you?

All I know is he's on the case and Florida Man, at least, knows it's coming, and he's showing fear.

He's desperate: he does not want to be President as much as he wants to stay out of jail and keep whatever fortune he can salvage.

Both Ivanka and Jared have expressed their plans to withdraw from politics and any part in a hypothetical Florida Man White House. They both stayed away from his rushed tossing of his hat into a ring. Are they witnesses who are making their deal?

As to how long it will take? I will wait until it does and celebrate. It's in the works, and that's the best any of us can hope for. For a guy you think is going to skate through his own train wreck, to me, he seems to act like he's waiting for the cop-knock and trying to delay it. That's reasonable. Futile, but reasonable.

Look how long it took to get John Gotti into a SuperMax. He was called the Teflon Don because it took so long, and he did not get away.

It's taking longer than I want, but it's happening, and I am grateful to DoJ for that.
snood
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2022 12:57 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
You’re purposefully double-talking. I suppose you think it makes you look smart, but I just think it’s cowardly.

I just want you to answer if you would consider any amount of time as too much.

You said “it’s taking too long, but it’s happening.”

If we get to 2023 with no indictment, will you still be saying “it’s coming; keep the faith”?

How about 2024?

 

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