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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2022 09:15 am
Murdoch papers humiliate Trump today. It appears the era of oligarch / media support for Trump is fading, most likely for a more reliable, increasingly popular DeSantis.

Change on the horizon.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2022 09:46 am
On Tuesday before any results were in I made a prediction which has turned out to be very wrong.

Many GOP candidates, I thought, would follow this pattern...
Quote:
if we lose, the election was fraudulent but if we win, it is valid
and I said this would be widely on display following the election

But that didn't happen. Losing GOP candidates, in almost all cases so far, have actually behaved in line with past norms. Further, such behavior as I expected hasn't even shown up (that I've seen at least) where I would have most expected it - right wing media such as Fox where it was pretty constant previously. So I'm trying to think through why my expectations were wrong.

Possibility: As the evening progressed and it became clear that the red wave was not happening and the Dems doing so much better than it was assumed, perhaps this had effects on candidates and conservative voices which set them back on their heels and ameliorated their aggressive patterns. Even Bannon, who for weeks/months had being promising an 89 or 100 seat majority in the House, was very subdued.

Or, related to the above, perhaps it was becoming increasingly apparent to all that the Trump model of behavior was actually a losing strategy. After all, we could see that consensus forming almost immediately (perhaps encouraged by how Trump had fucked up GOP chances in Georgia months ago).

Or something(s) else. If anyone has a good notion, let me know.

One more thing about the election that came to mind this morning is a factor I haven't seen anyone discuss though I'm sure some must have done so. To what degree was this election influenced by the Jan 6 hearings?

Lash
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2022 10:32 am
DeSantis: God’s creation, designed for this moment

…and more commentary by Russell Brand.
https://youtu.be/YvHScluXaSQ
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2022 10:34 am
@Lash,
Great clip, tho I suspect you aren't buying in on all of it.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2022 10:36 am
@bobsal u1553115,
I suspect you didn’t buy in to all of it—like Brand’s description of Biden (tottering cadaver).
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2022 10:36 am
@oralloy,
Patience. Haste makes waste, and causes clamors over "the big steal."
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hightor
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2022 10:38 am
@blatham,
I think it was pretty humiliating for them. Especially since they've had two years to prevent the sort of widespread cheating they alleged after '20. They'd have to admit that the Dems fooled them once again. Add to that the likelihood that a lot of Republicans felt they could use Trump to their advantage but weren't really bound to him and without the luster of victory he's been revealed as the emperor without any clothes and they can't wait to escape his toxic brand and the mephitic cloud that surrounds him.

Lash
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2022 10:41 am
Anyway, I’m hoping this does signal Trump’s exit from politics, but a smarter, more dogmatic, more socially savvy DeSantis may make some look back on Trump wistfully.
revelette1
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2022 02:55 pm
@Lash,
It is true, DeSantis would be a nightmare as a President. I am hopeful his fifteen minutes of fame don't last long. But, not holding my breath.
revelette1
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2022 03:00 pm
Quote:
The Democratic Party’s path to holding the U.S. Senate — even without winning the runoff election that is coming in Georgia — became clearer on Wednesday night as the first post-election vote tallies in Nevada and Arizona showed Democrats faring well among mail voters.

In Nevada, Senator Catherine Cortez Masto, a Democrat, carried the first round of mail ballots in Clark County, which includes Las Vegas, and Washoe County, home to Reno, by two to one.

The total number of remaining ballots in Nevada is murky, because the state does not release authoritative data. Clark County alone had 50,000 still to tabulate as of Thursday, with another estimated 40,000 across Nevada, which can continue to receive mail-in ballots until Saturday as long as they were postmarked by Tuesday. If the estimate is correct — and if Ms. Cortez Masto continues to pick up these ballots by such a wide margin — it would be more than enough for the senator to overcome her deficit in the current tabulated count.

If the Democrats take Nevada and also hang on to Arizona, where the Democratic candidate, Senator Mark Kelly, holds a wider, five-point lead so far, the Democrats would keep control of the U.S. Senate. Wins in Nevada and Arizona would mean that Democrats would not need to wait for the result of a runoff in Georgia to maintain control of the chamber.

Mr. Kelly’s chances of maintaining his lead appeared to improve last night, because Democrats fared well in the first tallies of mail ballots that voters returned before Election Day. Overall, Mr. Kelly won last night’s tally in Maricopa County, the state’s largest and home to Phoenix, by a 15-point margin — an even greater lead than his margin in all the votes counted so far in Arizona.

The ballots at once expanded Mr. Kelly’s lead in the race for U.S. Senate and raised the burden on the Republican, Blake Masters, to come out ahead in the approximately 600,000 votes that remain to be counted.

Mr. Masters can hope to perform better among the mail ballots that were returned on Election Day, which remain to be counted. President Donald J. Trump excelled among similar batches of voters in 2020, when he nearly overcame Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s early lead on election night. But Mr. Trump also won the first batches of late votes, like those tabulated Wednesday night.

To be elected, Mr. Masters needs to win the remaining vote by at least a 15-point margin. Without additional data on the remaining ballots, news organizations will probably not make a projection for Mr. Kelly until the burden on Mr. Masters is far greater. Still, his path to victory will look long until he demonstrates major strength in the late count.


https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/11/10/us/election-updates-midterms-results?type=styln-live-updates&label=midterm%20election%20updates&index=0#nevada-senate-control-democrats
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2022 03:01 pm
@revelette1,
I'm hoping he and the Orange Shitgibbon destroy each other without leaving Pence next in line. Two years is a long time. They could all eat each other.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2022 03:07 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

I suspect you didn’t buy in to all of it—like Brand’s description of Biden (tottering cadaver).


I don't buy into all of what anybody says, especially comedians, and even less from with UK comedians who have trouble containing their anti-US attitudes. I think Russel Brand is brilliant, but I don't form very much my political cant from comedians. Even George Carlin had his full of **** moments. But I'd buy his tickets, albums, and specials.
blatham
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2022 05:18 pm
@hightor,
I think that's right. Thanks.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2022 06:27 pm
More of this, please.

Quote:
Lake Blames The Arizona Delays On…Ron DeSantis?

In a bizarre turn of events, Republican gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake is taking a shot at a supposed shadowy network of Ron DeSantis supporters for conspiring to slow-roll election results in Arizona which, she claims, is part of an effort to divide the GOP and to demonstrate that Trump loyalists can’t win elections.

“What I think they’re doing is slow-rolling our victory,” she told right-wing Youtuber Steven Crowder on Thursday. “They wanna take the air out of this movement […] And so they slow-roll the results, Ron DeSantis goes out, gives this big speech and then they want to make it look like the Trump Republicans don’t have a chance.”

DeSantis may have popped into her mind because of the burgeoning, largely one-sided feud between the Florida governor and Trump, who he may go mano a mano with for the GOP presidential ticket in 2024. According to various reports, the two have already had beef behind the scenes.

“As he prepares to announce his own 2024 run, Trump has been soliciting dirt on DeSantis and other potential primary rivals, including Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin,” journalists Asawin Suebsaeng and Patrick Reis write for Rolling Stone. “Trump has also spread gossip about DeSantis, including unverified allegations about his private life. Rolling Stone is declining to repeat what Trump has said.” here
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2022 07:12 pm
@blatham,
Wow on this.

Wondering if this is straight news or a current running beneath it.

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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2022 07:13 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Same.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2022 09:45 pm
Best one I've read.

The red wave was more like a pink splash. Kind of like what happens when you throw your Maga hat in the wash with your klan hood.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 10 Nov, 2022 10:34 pm
Just checked Media Matters and some main Fox voices starting to push the doubts about election integrity stuff again.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 11 Nov, 2022 02:58 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

I think Russel Brand is brilliant,


How?

He is so unfunny, annoying and pretentious.

And he knows nothing about politics as is evidenced by his Ed Milliband interview.

Good comics do educate about politics, Ben Elton and Frankie Boyle are excellent.

Stewart Lee knows a lot too, although I don't find him funny.

But Brand, I can't stand his whiny voice. The minute I he appears on the telly I switch channels.
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hightor
 
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Reply Fri 11 Nov, 2022 03:59 am
Quote:
Two days after an election in which the Republican Party attacked the Democrats for inflation, today’s consumer price index data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics showed that inflation is slowing more quickly than expected. It rose just 0.4% in October, making the rate over the past twelve months also come in lower than expected at 7.7%.

The stock market had its biggest jump since 2020, with the different indexes observers use to measure the market all rising. The Dow Jones Industrial Average jumped more than 1,200 points, or 3.7%; the S&P 500 jumped 5.54%; and the Nasdaq Composite surged 7.35%, the best it has done since March 2020.

In a statement, President Joe Biden promised to continue to work to get prices down but noted that his policies are having an effect. “[O]ur economy has reopened, new jobs are being created, new businesses are growing, and now, we are seeing progress in getting inflation under control—with additional measures taking effect soon.”

Then Biden appeared to reach out to Republicans interested in forging a way forward from their party’s politics of the recent past, while also recalling that for all their complaints about inflation, their only plan to fix the problem was to cut taxes for the wealthy again. Virtually no economist said cutting taxes would help inflation, and many said such a policy would actually make inflation worse.

Biden said: “I will work with anyone—Democrat or Republican—on ideas to provide more breathing room to middle-class and working families. And I will oppose any effort to undo my agenda or to make inflation worse. We are on the right path—we need to keep moving forward to build an economy from the bottom up and the middle out.”

Biden appeared to have wind under his wings, though, as with this recent vote of confidence he looks forward to the rest of his term. The 27th United Nations Climate Change conference is being held right now in Egypt, and the U.S. administration today announced a new policy for dealing with climate change. Arguing that climate change and the shortages and damage to supply chains it brings create significant financial risk for the government (that is, taxpayers), it advanced a plan to use the federal government’s power as the world’s largest buyer of goods and services—over $630 billion in the last fiscal year—to address climate change.

It would require any federal contractor who gets annual contracts worth more than $7.5 million a year to disclose their greenhouse gas emissions, explain their climate-related financial risks, and set emissions reduction targets.

Climate change is a key issue for Gen Z, who came out for Biden strongly on Tuesday, but Biden’s other major initiative on their behalf ran into trouble today as U.S. District Court Judge Mark Pittman, a Trump appointee, declared Biden’s student loan relief program illegal. The government has already appealed.

Meanwhile, the counting of votes continues, with control of both houses of Congress still unclear.

What is clear is that there is a war erupting in the Republican Party. After former president Trump surged to an unexpected victory in 2016, there appeared to be a sense in the Republican Party that he had figured out how to mobilize previously unengaged voters to deliver victories to the Republican Party, and established Republicans increasingly rallied to his standard.

But he has led the party to defeat now for the third time. In the 2018 midterms, Republicans lost control of the House, with Democrats picking up 41 seats. In 2020, of course, he lost the election, as well as control of the Senate. And while this year’s outcome is not yet clear, the Democrats have had one of the best midterm performances in recent memory. Suddenly, Trump no longer seems to have a magic formula.

White nationalist Nick Fuentes told his audience that the solution to the fact Republicans are in a minority and keep losing elections is to establish “a dictatorship.” "We need to take control of the media or take control of the government and force the people to believe what we believe or force them to play by our rules.”

Others seem to think the answer is just to dump Trump, although as Representative Adam Schiff (D-CA) warned Republicans in his closing argument in Trump’s first impeachment trial: “If you find that the House has proved its case and still vote to acquit, your name will be tied to his with a cord of steel—and for all of history.”

That his star is tarnished became clear today not just on cable television and Twitter, where right-wing users complained about his hand-picked candidates, and in Pennsylvania, where Republicans were stung by the loss of a Senate seat, but also on media owned by right-wing kingmaker Rupert Murdoch. Today the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal noted Trump’s perfect record of electoral defeat and said: “Trump is the Republican Party’s Biggest Loser.”

Apparently stung, Trump unleashed a furious rant on Truth Social, claiming credit for DeSantis’s start in politics. It included an astonishing claim: “I was all in for Ron, and he beat Gillum, but after the Race, when votes were being stolen by the corrupt Election process in Broward County, and Ron was going down ten thousand votes a day, along with now-Senator Rick Scott, I sent in the FBI and the U.S. Attorneys, and the ballot theft immediately ended, just prior to them running out of the votes necessary to win. I stopped his Election from being stolen….”

This is an apparent reference to the 2018 election that put DeSantis in the governor’s chair rather than his Democratic opponent Andrew Gillum. The race was very close: just 32,463 votes out of 9 million cast, about 0.4%, separated the two candidates. Considering what we now know about Trump’s approach to election results, a claim to having rigged the 2018 Florida election was one heck of a statement. Josh Marshall at Talking Points Memo noted that even though Trump “is a pathological liar… this requires some explanation, if only a clear and definitive confirmation that this did not happen.”

Pundits are already suggesting Florida governor Ron DeSantis as a replacement for Trump as a presidential candidate in 2024. This is terribly premature. If, in fact, the party is going to move beyond the Trump years, it seems it might well not turn to DeSantis, who, among other things, is still under investigation for flying a plane load of legal migrants to Martha’s Vineyard, an act not just cruel but possibly illegal.

There will be plenty of time to worry about 2024.

In the meantime, Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris spoke to a Democratic National Committee Event today at the Howard Theatre in Washington, D.C. Harris told the audience members that their work sent a message to the entire world: Our democracy is intact…. [T]his what it looks like…. Some Democrats won and some Republicans won. That is what happens when more than 100 million Americans participate and vote in free and fair and open elections…. And the people in this room and around our country made that possible by standing up for basic American values: freedom, liberty, and the rule of law. And I believe when you know what you stand for, you know what to fight for.”

Biden told the attendees that Democrats “beat the odds” in the midterms “for one reason—this is not hyperbole—because of you…. I really mean it…. You believed in the system. You believed in the institutions. You fought like hell for it. And that’s the most important thing that happened, in my view, in this election. It was the first national election since January 6th, and there were a lot of concerns about whether democracy would meet the test.”

“It did. It did. It did.”

hcr
 

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