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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
hightor
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 05:56 am
@neptuneblue,
Quote:
Again, you really look stupid when you spew nothingness and try to pass it as fact.

It's pretty much his stock-in-trade.
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hightor
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 06:03 am
@Lash,
Quote:
TERM LIMITS.


Let people vote for whomever they wish as long as they want. Instead, concentrate on campaign finance reform, banning revolving door lobbyists, overturning "Citizens United", repealing corporate personhood, and pursuing other structural reforms to the actual system rather than regulating the duration of personalities in office.
snood
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 06:30 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

The longer a ‘representative’ is in Washington, the more deals they make with lobbyists and other people peddling money for favors. They’re all multimillionaires because they decided to enrich themselves by selling out their constituents.

TERM LIMITS.


You’re being shifty as usual. You were disparaging the old politicians for being “doddering” (read: incompetent). When met with cogent arguments showing how their age generally reflects their aging constituency and should not in and of itself be a stopper, you shift to focusing on how longer times in Washington mean more corruption.

Those are two different things. A congressman/senator/governor can be corrupt as **** and just be in their 40s or 50 ( Desantis, Cruz, Rubio, etc)

If you want to argue that we shouldn’t trust people over age 65 in government, just do it. Don’t start tap dancing when it starts being obvious how stupid the argument is.
McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 06:47 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

TERM LIMITS.


Amen.
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 06:53 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Quote:
TERM LIMITS.


Let people vote for whomever they wish as long as they want. Instead, concentrate on campaign finance reform, banning revolving door lobbyists, overturning "Citizens United", repealing corporate personhood, and pursuing other structural reforms to the actual system rather than regulating the duration of personalities in office.

If incumbents didn’t amass much more electoral power over challengers, making all things grossly unequal, I’d agree with this—but politics is a dirty business where favors are called in and the behemoth apparatus swings into motion for the incumbent…you know, if they comply with specific demands from the party.

Which is why in addition to all the lovely items you mentioned, we must also have TERM LIMITS.
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 06:58 am
@snood,
Being too old to understand the needs of a changing population, wrap one’s literally shrinking brain around new and different concepts, and being in office long enough to make a lot of dirty deals are not mutually exclusive.

I’m not the one with the stupid argument.
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 07:07 am
https://californiaglobe.com/articles/why-does-the-u-s-congress-have-so-many-geriatric-members/amp/

The fact that this article is a few years old emphasizes my point.
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With 87-year old U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) reportedly having very public cognitive issues, this is a serious situation. Who is Feinstein’s handler, because surely she has one? Who finishes her sentences for her? Who directs her to the next meeting? Who prepares cheat sheets of notes for her? Who runs interference for Feinstein with the media? Who made her 20-year Chinese spy staffer problem go away?

The Globe reported that Richard Blum, Dianne Feinstein’s husband, is in talks with the Biden transition committee about an ambassadorship, as a deal, and gentle way to ease the 87-year-old Feinstein out of office.

80-year old House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) certainly has her own age-related issues, despite some of the best medical care in the world, and a talented plastic surgeon. To call Pelosi awkward during television interviews is an understatement. She slurs her words, appears unable to finish a sentence, makes weird jerky movements with her hands, and does that funny thing with her lips over her teeth. Pelosi loses her temper very quickly when asked a real question, similar to Joe Biden’s reaction. Pelosi was a very attractive woman for many years, and likely would still be if she hadn’t messed with Mother Nature. But we all age – there is no cheating the aging process.

UPDATE: Nancy Pelosi was just re-elected as House Speaker Sunday January 3, as were Senator Leaders Mitch McConnell and Chuck Shumer.

My 76-year old Congressional Rep. Doris Matsui (D-CA) hasn’t been seen in her California district in ages. We hear she recently remarried a very wealthy older fellow. The happy couple even bought a $1.7 million home for cash in August facing a beautiful regional park in downtown Sacramento, but it is evident she hasn’t been there once. The home sits empty just so Matsui can now claim she actually owns a residence in her district.

Former Senator Strom Thurmond remained in the U.S. Senate to age 100, was witnessed nodding off frequently, visibly confused and obviously unable to adequately perform his job. Sen. John McCain was 81 when he passed away, and there were many reports that he wasn’t doing well during chemotherapy treatments for glioblastoma, despite still holding office.

Former Vice President, now presumed President-Elect Joe Biden, is clearly suffering from some form of dementia, while his wife, the media and everyone in the Democrat Party diabolically pretends otherwise. “That’s just Joe,” we are told.

How many times during the last four years did members of the media claim President Donald Trump had dementia? Or some obscure university psychologist would make a television diagnosis of the President on MSNBC or CNN? These same people ignore real dementia in the presumed President-elect, and issues with aging members of Congress.

With so many aged members of Congress, there must be stories like these in every state.

While most Americans are looking to retire as they near age 65 or 70, it appears members of Congress are just getting warmed up as they age. They’ve been in office so many years, their special interest funders need them to remain. And that is the real priority – special interests, rather than constituents, particularly for members in office for decades.

The U.S. House of Representatives, with a total of 435 members from 50 states, has 10 members 80 and older.

Most 80-year olds are enjoying retirement and their grandkids.

The U.S. House of Representatives has 21 members between age 75 and 80.

Most 75-year olds are retired, traveling and golfing.

The U.S. House of Representatives has 108 members between ages 65 and 74.

Most 65-year olds are either knocking on the door of retirement, or are retired from government, enjoying a nice pension and making travel plans.

The U.S. Senate, with 101 members from 50 states, has 7 members 80 and older.

The U.S. Senate has 22 members between the ages of 65 and 70, and 21 members between the ages of 70 and 79.
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Ask yourself. Why is ‘ok, Boomer’ a thing?
There’s a REASON.

The last Biden-speak iteration of Rishi Sunak’s name was Radish Sinatra.
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 07:19 am
@bobsal u1553115,
They have banks of high resolution security cameras all over their property. I’m certain they’d have video of a break in and confrontation.

Honest people show video evidence.
Dishonest people hide it.

I’ll be glad to see the truth—whatever it is.
Won’t you?
hightor
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 07:22 am
The dark heart of the GOP

Embracing the politics of sadism, the GOP base hits a new low.

Tom Nichols wrote:
It might seem late in the game to point to any one event as a final or conclusive moment in the decline of the Republican Party. And I have no doubt that if the GOP returns to power this winter, its worst members will find new ways to appall decent people while gamboling about in jester’s bells for its base. (As my Atlantic colleague Adam Serwer has put it so well, “The cruelty is the point.”) But the reaction among Republican elected officials and their conservative-media life-support system to the beating of Paul Pelosi—by a man named David DePape, who was charged with attempting to kidnap Speaker Nancy Pelosi and admitted to planning to torture her—feels different.

I am not alone; my friend Mona Charen, among others, also senses that this event marks a new level of depravity in the GOP. I have struggled for a few days to decide why, exactly, this moment seems like an inflection point. In terms of actual damage, January 6 was far worse than one violent crime in San Francisco. Republican leaders—and here I will leave aside Donald Trump, who is in a class of hideousness all by himself—have said far worse things over the past five years. But a parade of Republicans somehow think that an unhinged, hammer-wielding intruder putting an old man in the ICU is funny.

We might expect such inanity from pathetic attention hounds such as Donald Trump Jr. and the usual conservative troll-pundits. Some of them tried to get a rumor about Paul Pelosi trending and briefly succeeded, especially when Twitter’s new boss, Elon Musk, characteristically decided that he just had to get involved in something he knows nothing about and amplified a dodgy story about it on Twitter. (He later deleted the tweet.) GOP leaders, however, stayed silent.

But that didn’t stop people in both right-wing politics and media from laughing it up over the Pelosi attack, including the Arizona gubernatorial contender Kari Lake, Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin, and sitting Representative Clay Higgins. Others have joined in trying to obfuscate or deflect attention from the intent of the attack; Senator John Cornyn of Texas even lamely tried to raise immigration as an issue. (DePape is here on a long-expired visa from Canada.)

One might think that it would be easy for America, as one nation, to condemn an attempt to kidnap the woman second in line to the presidency that resulted in the beating of her husband with a hammer. As Ernest Hemingway would say: Pretty to think so. Instead, we have seen the dark heart of the Republican Party, with a reaction so callous, so flippantly sadistic, so hateful, that it all feels irredeemable.

Of course, Republicans have put on a master class in whataboutism over the past few days. What about the people who laughed at Rand Paul’s neighbor giving the Kentucky senator a beatdown? What about Kathy Griffin’s ugly photograph of her holding up a mask representing Trump’s severed head? And, most of all, what about James Hodgkinson, who shot at a group of GOP political officials and nearly killed Representative Steve Scalise? These are all said with triumph, as if the transformation of the GOP into a violent mob is rendered moot by these examples.

I disapproved of laughing off the attack on Rand Paul and the Griffin photo shoot. (I am allergic to even the implication of violence against any president.) But I also don’t think these are neatly comparable cases; Paul, a middle-aged man, was attacked by a neighbor angry over a pile of brush in Paul’s yard, and Griffin paid a significant career price for her tasteless stunt.

Hodgkinson and DePape, by contrast, do seem alike, a similarity exploited by Republicans. Both were troubled and unstable men who spent a lot of time on the internet and settled on political figures as their intended target. That’s fair as far as it goes.

The problem is that the GOP and their media footmen are flooding the zone with hate, and creating more potential DePapes every day. There is no equivalence here; it’s not liberals who are threatening election officials, stalking ballot boxes with guns, or barraging Congress’s phones and inboxes daily with threats. January 6 should have been our warning that these messages have real power, and yet that terrible day has already receded from our collective memory.

To see how the right wing is deranging more people every day, consider the case of Scott Haven, a Utah insurance salesman. In a new book, the journalist Robert Draper notes that Haven was convicted in 2019 of making threats in many of the almost 4,000 calls he made over two years to Democrats in Congress, singling out Maxine Waters, Dick Durbin, and Jerry Nadler:

He focused his attention on them because Limbaugh and Hannity had themselves done so—even going so far as to supply their Washington office numbers while on the air. Haven dutifully jotted them down. Then he began calling, sharing sentiments like the following:

“Tell the son of a bitch we are coming to hang the ******!”


Later, as he pleaded guilty in court, Haven trembled with regret. So did many of the insurrectionists of January 6. Perhaps David DePape will do so as well one day. But the members and staff on the Hill who lived in fear of Haven’s threats will not get those years back; the people killed and injured in the Capitol breach cannot be made whole; Paul Pelosi’s body is no less shattered.

Sadistic glee in harming others is a sin (at least in my faith). But it is also a social cancer, a rot that can spread quickly and kill the spirit of democracy. If all attempts at reason and all offers of friendship fail, the rest of us should shun those whose dark hearts encourage them to revel in such poison. Unfortunately, millions of our fellow citizens seem poised to vote many such people into power. The darkness is spreading.

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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 07:29 am
@snood,
snood wrote:

Lash wrote:

The longer a ‘representative’ is in Washington, the more deals they make with lobbyists and other people peddling money for favors. They’re all multimillionaires because they decided to enrich themselves by selling out their constituents.

TERM LIMITS.


You’re being shifty as usual. You were disparaging the old politicians for being “doddering” (read: incompetent). When met with cogent arguments showing how their age generally reflects their aging constituency and should not in and of itself be a stopper, you shift to focusing on how longer times in Washington mean more corruption.

Those are two different things. A congressman/senator/governor can be corrupt as **** and just be in their 40s or 50 ( Desantis, Cruz, Rubio, etc)

If you want to argue that we shouldn’t trust people over age 65 in government, just do it. Don’t start tap dancing when it starts being obvious how stupid the argument is.

Are you incompetent or a liar? I guess you can be both.
I mentioned incompetence and corruption in my initial post.
https://able2know.org/topic/555216-458#post-7275562
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blatham
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 09:24 am
@Lash,
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I’ll be glad to see the truth—whatever it is.
Won’t you?

What "truth" are you waiting to see? Was Paul Pelosi in his underwear? What sort of underwear he had on? If the so-called attacker was invited in or let in by Pelosi's gay lover? Was (as someone on Fox suggested) the glass broken from the inside of the home? Was the attacker wearing a BLM or Antifa t-shirt? Did the attacker arrive in a car driven by Mark Rich?
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The officer in D.C. quickly pulled up additional camera angles from around Pelosi’s home and began to backtrack, watching recordings from the minutes before San Francisco police arrived. There, on camera, was a man with a hammer, breaking a glass panel and entering the speaker’s home, according to three people familiar with how Capitol Police learned of the break-in and who have been briefed on or viewed the video themselves.
WP
And of course, the real question here is why you might be trying to shift attention away from the consequences of far right violent and even murderous rhetoric now absolutely ubiquitous in right wing media and from the mouths of Republican in or running for office and instead forwarding the same sort of disinformation that comes from those sources?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 09:26 am
As they attempted to stop Joe Biden from assuming the presidency despite his victory in the 2020 election, lawyers for Donald Trump wanted to appeal specifically to Clarence Thomas, one of the most conservative justices on the supreme court.

Trump lawyers saw Justice Thomas as 'only chance' to stop 2020 election certification
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 09:29 am
@blatham,
“whatever it is”

And you?
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blatham
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 09:33 am
@Lash,
Quote:
@neptuneblue,
It’s stupid that these corrupt old bags of bones are still doddering around Washington, stealing openly from the American people.

American governance will remain corrupt with doddering individuals like Bernie Sanders in office.
Lash
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 09:39 am
@blatham,
Only Sanders? Not Pelosi and Feinstein and the others? You’re so intellectually dishonest.

ALL OF THEM.
snood
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 09:47 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Only Sanders? Not Pelosi and Feinstein and the others? You’re so intellectually dishonest.

ALL OF THEM.


It makes sense that he’d single out Sanders. A couple years ago, you not only couldn’t shut up about what a visionary leader he was and what a great president he’d be, but also how cute he was and how attractive you found him. At the time, he’d been in Washington as a congressman and Senator for over twenty years, and he was over 75 years old.
blatham
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 10:01 am
@hightor,
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Quote:
@Lash,
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TERM LIMITS.


Let people vote for whomever they wish as long as they want. Instead, concentrate on campaign finance reform, banning revolving door lobbyists, overturning "Citizens United", repealing corporate personhood, and pursuing other structural reforms to the actual system rather than regulating the duration of personalities in office.

Yes. Whatever positive results might come from term limits will be up against the disadvantages of losing truly effective and honorable politicians.

The historical example we have of this term limit notion being heavily promoted as a "solution" to poor government is Gingrich's Contract With America which almost every GOP candidate expressed support for. Many gained office from what was actually a marketing gambit. None or almost none of the winning GOP candidates supporting the proposal actually followed through on the promise. And Gingrich himself, one of the most corrupt politicians in our lifetimes, is still milking the system either in some political role or by plying the lucrative right wing media circus.

The main attraction of such a simplistic "remedy" is precisely that it is simple. Cognitively simple and seemingly administratively simple. But it is seen as an utterly foolish remedy when one merely considers so many of the current GOP candidates who may well gain office soon through multiple millions of dollars pumped into their campaigns from extremist money sources like those within the Koch umbrella.
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 10:04 am
@snood,
snood wrote:

Lash wrote:

Only Sanders? Not Pelosi and Feinstein and the others? You’re so intellectually dishonest.

ALL OF THEM.


It makes sense that he’d single out Sanders. A couple years ago, you not only couldn’t shut up about what a visionary leader he was and what a great president he’d be, but also how cute he was and how attractive you found him. At the time, he’d been in Washington as a congressman and Senator for over twenty years, and he was over 75 years old.

I was thrilled that someone emerged from Congress who gave a **** about regular Americans. It could have been a three-headed naturalized alien from the fifth rock from the sun.

If you have to jettison the rare visionary to get rid of the imbeciles, jettison.

TERM LIMITS.

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izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 10:31 am
Looks like Netanyahu will be returned to power as head of a far right bloc.

It doesn't look pretty.
blatham
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2022 10:37 am
@snood,
Quote:
It makes sense that he’d single out Sanders.

Her response to that is funny and illuminating. As if she actually believes I think Sanders ought to be pushed out on a term limits rule.

But it's the last bit, "TERM LIMITS", that's worth thinking about. It's a distraction. She's been trying to suggest that there is something sneaky about the Pelosi attack that needs to be brought to light (as is a theme in current right wing rhetoric) all of which is itself a distraction from the clear connection between GOP violent rhetoric and the attack. Her initial claim that the attacker was a leftie (as we know, another current right wing smoke screen attempt) is revealing itself more each day as not just ludicrous but a pro-GOP PR gambit). And thus suddenly we're on to TERM LIMITS and she posts a source which not only forwards the "Biden is senile" right wing attack but lists elderly politicos 80% of whom are Dems.
 

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