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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 29 Oct, 2022 04:09 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
That is not what I said.


So then, what IS it that makes him a leftist?

snood
 
  3  
Reply Sat 29 Oct, 2022 04:12 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
I know, right? She used to regale us with stories about the challenging, profoundly relevant lessons she taught in her classes, and how she was so connected with the teenagers she instructed. It was all so idyllic, so relevant to the issues of the day… <heavy sigh>

Real hard to swallow the image of this enlightened educator, when you consider the petty, undermining nature of the way she communicates here.
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Reply Sat 29 Oct, 2022 04:12 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

snood wrote:

Okay. Why did you say the attacker was a lefty? Wait, are you now saying you didn’t say that?

His vote, activism, and lifestyle characterizes him as a lefty. I have no problem acknowledging that some recent conspiracy following smacks of extremist right wing narratives and mental instability.

I’m not afraid to look at the whole person.

Why are you and others fighting so hard to ignore his left wing background?


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Enumerate on some more of the lefty things.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Reply Sat 29 Oct, 2022 04:15 pm
@snood,
You said it exactly right. How much damage is she causing?
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Reply Sat 29 Oct, 2022 05:08 pm
Judge Refuses to Walk Back Decision to Give John Eastman's Georgia Election Emails to Jan. 6 Commit
https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/judge-refuses-to-walk-back-decision-to-give-john-eastmans-georgia-election-emails-to-jan-6-committee/

Judge Refuses to Walk Back Decision to Give John Eastman’s Georgia Election Emails to Jan. 6 Committee

MEGHANN CUNIFF
Oct 29th, 2022, 10:19 am

A federal judge on Friday rejected a request by John Eastman to reconsider a ruling to release a group of Eastman’s emails to the Jan. 6 Committee. The judge agreed that the Committee had put forth a prima facie case — a basic, plausible, first-impression argument — that Eastman and Donald Trump knowingly “engaged in criminal or fraudulent conduct” when communicating about the 2020 election and conjuring up claims of voter fraud.

U.S. District Judge David O. Carter said Eastman’s most recent request “fails to meet the standards governing motions for reconsideration or a stay” and stood by his decision to apply the crime-fraud exception to privileged documents on Eastman’s Chapman University email server.

“Dr. Eastman’s affidavit presents no evidence that the Court ‘manifestly failed’ to consider when ruling that the crime-fraud exception applies,” Carter wrote in a six-page order issued less than 24 hours after Eastman filed his 10-page reconsideration motion.

[...]

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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 29 Oct, 2022 06:57 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
oralloy wrote:
Kosovar independence is equally a violation of the UN Charter and international law.

BULLSHIT.

No BS. The Serbs have the same right to territorial integrity that everyone else has.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
Care to post some UN declaration condemning Kosovo for the Kosovars??????

Why would I look to those hypocrites at the UN for a fair and just resolution? They're only interested in supporting terrorists and evil dictators.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
The UN okayed the campaign to allow 97% of the population of Kosovo - to drive Serbian Nationalist Militias out.

Do you have a cite for this UN approval?

Not that it matters. The precedent set by NATO's aggression makes it OK for Russia to bomb Ukraine and steal their territory.

If NATO can do it to Serbia, then Russia can do it to Ukraine.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
The Serbs would do anything to keep Kosovo - except live there.

There are plenty of Serbs in North Kosovo.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
Where do you dig your absolutely fictional history from, anyways?????????

There is nothing even remotely fictional about the fact that the Serbs have the same rights that everyone else has.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 29 Oct, 2022 07:00 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
What Republic do you live in, The Republic of Crazy Thinking? Cite the laws that sanctions an impeachment after the POTUS is out of office???

Article I Section 2 of the US Constitution.

"The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment."

The second part of course, not the part about choosing the speaker and other officers.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
Because that is the only sanction from a conviction in the Senate: being put out of the office, the Senate has two options: not guilty and guilty, and the only punishment is to put the guilty out of office.

Incorrect. That is not the only thing that can be done to an impeached individual.

Technically it isn't meant as a punishment. It is just meant to protect the nation.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
Sometimes I wonder what's wrong with you.

What's wrong is that I am a good person. I believe strongly in fairness and justice. Progressives are bad people. They just hate fairness and justice.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 29 Oct, 2022 07:05 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:
Real hard to swallow the image of this enlightened educator, when you consider the petty, undermining nature of the way she communicates here.

There is nothing petty or undermining about her communications. You are describing your own communications.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 29 Oct, 2022 09:27 pm
@oralloy,
Where does it say they can impeach former elected officials? If Congress wants to investigate an ex-official, they can and refer their report for investigation and prosecution, you know, like the way they're doing to the Jan 6 seditionist assholes.

For one second, consider: what possible effect would an Impeachment of an out-of-office politician accomplish?

Allow me to answer: not one ******* thing.

Pretty funny argument coming from you, who argues for the Orange Shitgibbon's eternal executive privilege. Maybe Obama and Biden have given themselves and each other executive clemency "by just thinking it".

Contradiction is no stranger to your argument, eh?
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Reply Sat 29 Oct, 2022 09:35 pm
@oralloy,
When they represent well below 5% of the population in Kisovo? Why aren't you so generous to Palestinians, who represent a far larger percentage of the population (30%), in Israel?

You are so inconsistant.
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Reply Sat 29 Oct, 2022 09:49 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Do you have a cite for this UN approval?


As a matter of fact, I do:

https://peacemaker.un.org › kosovo-resolution1244
Security Council Resolution 1244 (1999) on the situation relating Kosovo
Summary: This resolution provides a framework for the resolution of the conflict in Kosovo by authorising the deployment of an international civilian and military presence that would provide...

https://www.securitycouncilreport.org › un_documents_type › security-council-resolutions › ?ctype=Kosovo&cbtype=kosovo
UN Documents for Kosovo: Security Council Resolutions
Security Council Resolutions: Return to full list: 10 June 1999 S/RES/1244: This resolution authorised NATO to secure and enforce the withdrawal of Federal Republic of Yugoslavia forces from Kosovo and established UNMIK. 14 May 1999 S/RES/1239: This resolution called for access for humanitarian relief operations to aid refugees and IDPs.

https://www.usccb.org › resources › backgrounder-kosovo-and-un-resolution-june-1999
Backgrounder on Kosovo and UN Resolution, June 1999
Passage of Resolution 1244 by the UN Security Council on June 10 marks the end of the phase of the conflict in Kosovo that began with the NATO bombing campaign on March 24. The focus now shifts to reconstruction and the return of refugees under UN auspices, safeguarded by international peacekeeping forces now deploying in Kosovo.

https://www.securitycouncilreport.org › un-documents › kosovo
UN Documents for Kosovo - Security Council Report
This resolution acknowledged the ICJ's advisory opinion on Kosovo. 8 September 2010 A/64/L.65/Rev.1: This was the General Assembly resolution welcoming EU-mediated talks between Serbia and Kosovo. Selected Human Rights Council Documents: View All: 5 June 2014 A/HRC/26/33/Add.2

https://www.rferl.org › a › UNGA_Passes_Kosovo_Resolution › 2153707.html
UN Passes Kosovo Resolution - RadioFreeEurope/RadioLiberty
Speaking earlier in the day, UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon reaffirmed that the UN Mission will continue its work in Kosovo, as set out in UN Security Council Resolution 1244 from 1999.


Now, wiseguy: where the **** is yours?

This resolution is what justified President Bill Clinton to provide air power to protect Kosavars (ethnic Albanians who've been in Kosovo since the 14th century). Serbia claimed Kosovo when the Turks left. Serbians left, too.

Comparing Serbia/Kosovo to Russia/Ukraine doesn't promote your argument an inch. Russian and Serbia are wrong. Minorities do not outvote majorities.

Your loathing of the UN proves nothing about anything. Not even germane.
oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Sat 29 Oct, 2022 10:46 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
Where does it say they can impeach former elected officials?

It provides no limits on who they can impeach.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
the Jan 6 seditionist assholes.

Leftist tyrants sure can't stand it when peaceful protesters resist them.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
For one second, consider: what possible effect would an Impeachment of an out-of-office politician accomplish?
Allow me to answer: not one ******* thing.

Your answer is incorrect. Impeachment could bar Barack Obama from ever serving public office again.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
Pretty funny argument coming from you, who argues for the Orange Shitgibbon's eternal executive privilege.

I have not made such an argument.

I suspect that I would agree with that position, however, if I wanted to spend some time thinking about it.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
Maybe Obama and Biden have given themselves and each other executive clemency "by just thinking it".

Executive clemency is not a ward against impeachment.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
Contradiction is no stranger to your argument, eh?

There are no contradictions in my arguments.
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oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Sat 29 Oct, 2022 10:47 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
When they represent well below 5% of the population in Kisovo?

Yes. Territorial integrity is territorial integrity.

And Serbs are certainly well more than 5% of the population in North Kosovo.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
Why aren't you so generous to Palestinians, who represent a far larger percentage of the population (30%), in Israel?

Israeli Palestinians are citizens of Israel. I support Israel's right to territorial integrity.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
You are so inconsistant.

Not really.
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oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Sat 29 Oct, 2022 10:49 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:
As a matter of fact, I do:
https://peacemaker.un.org › kosovo-resolution1244
Security Council Resolution 1244 (1999) on the situation relating Kosovo

That is a resolution authorizing peacekeepers after NATO backed down from their attempt to conquer Serbia.

Since the fighting was over, Serbia did agree to withdraw their troops from Kosovo as part of the overall agreement. But it provided for no "campaign" to force Serbs out. This resolution was a peace agreement at the end of the fighting, not an authorization for some kind of military action against Serbs.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
Now, wiseguy: where the **** is yours?

I'm not clear on what statement of mine you are asking a cite regarding.

I am not making any claims about the existence of any sort of UN resolution.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
This resolution is what justified President Bill Clinton to provide air power to protect Kosavars (ethnic Albanians who've been in Kosovo since the 14th century).

Hardly.

First, there was no attempt to protect any Kosovars. NATO's airstrikes were an attempt to conquer Serbia.

Second, this resolution came at the end of the airstrikes, when NATO gave up on their attempt to conquer Serbia.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
Serbia claimed Kosovo when the Turks left. Serbians left, too.

Not really relevant. Serbia still had the right to territorial integrity.

And Serbs certainly didn't leave North Kosovo.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
Comparing Serbia/Kosovo to Russia/Ukraine doesn't promote your argument an inch.

Sure it does. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.


bobsal u1553115 wrote:
Russian and Serbia are wrong. Minorities do not outvote majorities.

Putin says thanks for legitimizing Russia's seizure of large sections of Ukraine.
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snood
 
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Reply Sat 29 Oct, 2022 11:05 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
It’s like trying to nail jello to a wall, isn’t it?
oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Sat 29 Oct, 2022 11:59 pm
@snood,
You're the ones who choose to take a position that is factually and logically indefensible.

If you want to have an easy time defending your position, try adopting a position that can be actually be justified.

That would require abandoning progressivism and leaving it to the demented loons of course. But where is the down side in that?
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Builder
 
  0  
Reply Sun 30 Oct, 2022 02:06 am
@snood,
Quote:
It’s like trying to nail jello to a wall, isn’t it?


Pot; kettle; black. We repeatedly show you evidence, and you scream lalalalalalalala, can't hear you, or shoot the messenger. Yawn.
oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Sun 30 Oct, 2022 03:09 am
@snood,
snood wrote:
I know, right? She used to regale us with stories about the challenging, profoundly relevant lessons she taught in her classes, and how she was so connected with the teenagers she instructed. It was all so idyllic, so relevant to the issues of the day… <heavy sigh>
Real hard to swallow the image of this enlightened educator, when you consider the petty, undermining nature of the way she communicates here.

Personal attacks against someone are a key sign of an inability to challenge their actual arguments.
Builder
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 30 Oct, 2022 03:18 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
Personal attacks against someone are a key sign of an inability to challenge their actual arguments.


In old skool online etiquette, ad hominen attacks are an admission of defeat.

They literally have nothing else.

These simpletons don't care.

They feel safety in numbers.
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hightor
 
  3  
Reply Sun 30 Oct, 2022 03:23 am
@Builder,
Quote:
We repeatedly show you evidence...

Actually you don't, so that "we" is pretty weak. Your tactic is to post misinformation or quote unreliable sources.
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.newsapi.com.au%2Fimage%2Fv1%2Fcc229a2cc1bb8a10474fce9290a7e9af&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=f97779ad48f9964f2af69f65c25fb70fc85802cc3b4940601360e137b9909cc8&ipo=images

Quote:
...and you scream lalalalalalalala...

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs2.favim.com%2Forig%2F36%2Fahah-boy-closed-eyes-lalalalalalalala-misfits-Favim.com-296191.gif&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=da31172ff590c554f13af688fdd53a382f3df6a11e8725fa3dd94cc0b3ba0dbd&ipo=images

And before you sign off, let me wish you good night.
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