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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2022 04:47 am

https://iili.io/iBfBXj.jpg
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engineer
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2022 06:42 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Where do you come up with this crap?

I think at this point, Biden hate is coming up against a reality that Biden is shaping up to be a remarkably effective President. Biden ran as a negotiator, a cold warrior, someone who could navigate the political process and get things done and we all scoffed. "Both your car and your politics are stuck in the 80's!" Except that suddenly we're back in the Cold War and Biden's response, both in the immediate run up to the Ukraine invasion and afterwards, has been nothing short of brilliant. Russia was counting on shock and awe plus the fog of war to delay the European response until Ukraine was a fait accompli. What happened instead is the US broadcast all of the Russian moves ahead of time and had all the allies on board for sanctions so that there was no surprise and no delay in enacting sanctions and providing aid. At the same time, he provided no pretext for allowing Russia to credibly drag NATO into a wider war. On the politics front, working with a bare majority and not a single Republican who will negotiate, Biden has been working the Senate and ends up with bills to fight climate change, build infrastructure, return chip manufacturing to the US, forgive some college loan debt, etc. These are huge wins. We haven't had any sort of infrastructure package in a while, across administrations of both parties. Now the administration has staved off a railway strike without banning the union from striking, preserving the economic recovery and providing a win for labor. A year ago, a Biden hater could look at the record and laugh with satisfaction. Today, it takes a true diehard to not grudgingly tip your hat to Biden.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2022 07:18 am
@engineer,
engineer wrote:

hightor wrote:

Where do you come up with this crap?

I think at this point, Biden hate is coming up against a reality that Biden is shaping up to be a remarkably effective President. Biden ran as a negotiator, a cold warrior, someone who could navigate the political process and get things done and we all scoffed. "Both your car and your politics are stuck in the 80's!" Except that suddenly we're back in the Cold War and Biden's response, both in the immediate run up to the Ukraine invasion and afterwards, has been nothing short of brilliant. Russia was counting on shock and awe plus the fog of war to delay the European response until Ukraine was a fait accompli. What happened instead is the US broadcast all of the Russian moves ahead of time and had all the allies on board for sanctions so that there was no surprise and no delay in enacting sanctions and providing aid. At the same time, he provided no pretext for allowing Russia to credibly drag NATO into a wider war. On the politics front, working with a bare majority and not a single Republican who will negotiate, Biden has been working the Senate and ends up with bills to fight climate change, build infrastructure, return chip manufacturing to the US, forgive some college loan debt, etc. These are huge wins. We haven't had any sort of infrastructure package in a while, across administrations of both parties. Now the administration has staved off a railway strike without banning the union from striking, preserving the economic recovery and providing a win for labor. A year ago, a Biden hater could look at the record and laugh with satisfaction. Today, it takes a true diehard to not grudgingly tip your hat to Biden.


Thank you, Engineer. Well said.
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hightor
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2022 09:44 am
@engineer,
Bravo!
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Builder
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2022 05:02 pm
Looks like you missed the memo entirely.

source

Disinformation Board Efforts to Monitor Americans’ Speech

Wednesday, June 8, 2022

New whistleblower documents, obtained by U.S. Senator Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) and Senate Judiciary Committee Ranking Member Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), expose shocking new details about the Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) planned Disinformation Governance Board. The documents reveal that DHS drafted plans for the Disinformation Governance Board as early as September 2021 and explored the possibility of partnerships with Big Tech companies like Twitter to assist in their efforts.

In a new letter to Secretary Mayorkas, Senators Hawley and Grassley call for DHS to release all internal communications related to the Disinformation Governance Board and to clarify why he did not fully explain the Disinformation Governance Board’s role in his testimony before Congress.

“The First Amendment of the Constitution was designed precisely so that the government could not censor opposing viewpoints – even if those viewpoints were false. DHS should not in any way seek to enlist the private sector to curb or silence opposing viewpoints. It is therefore imperative for DHS to provide additional clarity regarding its policies and procedures for identifying and addressing ‘MDM,’ as well as its efforts to ‘operationalize’ public-private partnerships and the steps it is taking to ensure that it does not infringe on the constitutional rights of American citizens,” the senators wrote.

On May 4, 2022, Secretary Mayorkas testified under oath to Senator Hawley that the Disinformation Governance Board “had not yet begun its work.” On May 1, 2022, the Secretary told the news media that the Board would be focused on disinformation “from foreign state adversaries [and] the cartels” and would not monitor American citizens. At the White House on May 2, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki claimed that the Board would be focused on “human traffickers and other transnational criminal organizations.”

In spite of the administration’s claims, the new whistleblower documents reveal:

The Disinformation Governance Board was originally conceived in part to monitor domestic speech regarding “conspiracy theories about the validity and security of elections” and “disinformation related to the origins and effects of COVID-19 vaccines or the efficacy of masks.”

DHS planned for a partnership with Twitter to suppress disfavored content and planned a meeting with Twitter executives exploring the concept.

The Disinformation Governance Board charter was drafted in January 2022 and personally signed by Secretary Mayorkas on February 24, 2022. The document states that the charter goes into effect immediately upon the Secretary’s signing of the document.

Despite the Secretary’s assertion that the Board had not yet begun its work, a planned meeting with social media executives appears to have been staffed by Nina Jankowicz.

DHS officials appear to have prepared legislation to codify a “Rumor Control Program of the Department of Homeland Security to Counter Misinformation, Disinformation, and Malinformation,” including a public-facing website known as “Rumor Control.”
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2022 08:47 pm
@Builder,
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!


source: Josh ******* Hawley's website.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2022 08:49 pm
@Builder,
Bull ****.
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hightor
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2022 03:06 am
@Builder,
Quote:
Looks like you missed the memo entirely.

Um, everyone heard about that when it was in the news – months ago. The source you quote isn't an investigative journalist, it's simply a GOP politician spewing the usual lies and misinformation. Since this pattern of lies and misinformation is pretty much all the GOP has left in its nearly empty bag of political tricks, of course they'd be worried about their tactics being scrutinized.

And this old story isn't relevant anyway – we were remarking on Biden's recent string of successes – as opposed to your string of failures. Shooting yourself in the foot again and again, in desperation you seek help from...Josh Hawley??? Razz Razz Razz

FAIL.

Goodnight, Builder, sleep tight.


Region Philbis
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2022 04:44 am
Quote:
Josh Hawley???


https://iili.io/iuVeRa.jpg
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Builder
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2022 04:25 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
in desperation you seek help from...Josh Hawley???


How many links would you like??

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/24/politics/dhs-disinformation-board-shut-down/index.html

https://www.aier.org/article/lessons-from-bidens-disinformation-board-debacle/

That one is great. Here's a snippet; Thought police by another name
Quote:

From the start, the Disinformation Governance Board looked like a political caricature dreamed up by people who never appreciated either Monty Python or Orwell’s 1984. Given the Biden record, it was unclear whether the new board will be fighting or promulgating “disinformation.” After controversy erupted, an unnamed DHS spokesperson told the Washington Post: “The Board’s purpose has been grossly mischaracterized; it will not police speech…. Its focus is to ensure that freedom of speech is protected.” Geez, why didn’t the Founding Fathers think of adding a clause to the First Amendment creating a nefarious-sounding government agency to ride shotgun on the nation’s media?


https://www.frontpagemag.com/disinformation-governance-board-now-officially-robert-spencer/

https://lynnwoodtimes.com/2022/05/19/disinformation-governance-board/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/disinformation-governance-board-russia-us-mexico-border/

Regardless of the sources, the fact remains that the incumbents intended to muddy the waters, clouding out the truth, and you seem to have no problem with that concept at all.

So much for the "able to know" slogan. Roll eyes. Wink
McGentrix
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2022 10:00 pm
@engineer,
engineer wrote:

I think at this point, Biden hate is coming up against a reality that Biden is shaping up to be a remarkably effective President.

Shocked


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The fact that some of you actually believe this is even funnier.
Builder
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2022 10:28 pm
@McGentrix,
Quote:
The fact that some of you actually believe this is even funnier.


The fact that the Dems had nobody else to front the party, is even more funny.

The guy can't lace his own shoes, and his son is so compromised, it's a national disgrace.
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hightor
 
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Reply Sun 18 Sep, 2022 03:26 am
@Builder,
Once again, you fail to prove your point. You obviously have only read one side of the "controversy" and have never bothered to dig any deeper. The snippet you quote with such glee is a case in point – it doesn't provide one example of anything which could be construed as "thought police":
an idiot wrote:
"Geez, why didn’t the Founding Fathers think of adding a clause to the First Amendment creating a nefarious-sounding government agency to ride shotgun on the nation’s media?"

The answer to that is rather simple: there wasn't a problem when it took a lie six weeks – or six months – to spread across the country. And, as 1984 wouldn't be written for another century and a half, it wouldn't sound any more "nefarious" than the "Sedition Laws" passed by Pres. Adams.

Interestingly, you stay true to form and manage to include a link that actually explains the role of the board and why it was deemed important:
CBS News wrote:
The Department of Homeland Security is setting up a Disinformation Governance Board to try to counter the spread of false information. The board will focus on disinformation coming from Russia as well as misleading messages about the U.S.-Mexico border, the Associated Press reports.

The immediate focus will be on misinformation from human smugglers, who spread false claims about U.S. border policy to migrants to help drum up business.

White House press secretary Jen Psaki said during a briefing Thursday that the board will tackle misinformation on a range of issues, and Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said part of its intention is to counter misinformation in Hispanic communities especially.

It's too bad that the Venezuelans refugees who were trafficked to Martha's Vineyard by Governor DeSantis weren't made aware that they were being lied to and being fed misinformation.

Good night, Builder, and pleasant dreams.

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hightor
 
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Reply Sun 18 Sep, 2022 04:22 am
Speaking of disinformation...

How Russian Trolls Helped Keep the Women’s March Out of Lock Step

As American feminists came together in 2017 to protest Donald Trump, Russia’s disinformation machine set about deepening the divides among them.
hightor
 
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Reply Sun 18 Sep, 2022 04:58 am
@McGentrix,
Quote:
The fact that some of you actually believe this is even funnier.

Yeah, we all remember "Infrastructure Week".
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Builder
 
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Reply Sun 18 Sep, 2022 05:00 am
@hightor,
Oh, I didn't realize you were like, twelve or something.
My bad.
hightor
 
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Reply Sun 18 Sep, 2022 05:21 am
@Builder,
Go back to bed!
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snood
 
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Reply Sun 18 Sep, 2022 05:58 am
I saw an explanation for what motivates Trump supporters that rang absolutely true.

They don’t measure his success by what he does FOR them, they measure it by what he does AGAINST people they don’t like. That’s why they see him as “successful”. And why they will NEVER abandon him.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 18 Sep, 2022 06:24 am
@snood,
snood wrote:

I saw an explanation for what motivates Trump supporters that rang absolutely true.

They don’t measure his success by what he does FOR them, they measure it by what he does AGAINST people they don’t like. That’s why they see him as “successful”. And why they will NEVER abandon him.


Great point, Snood. And it doesn't matter to them if the thing being done "against people they don't like"...hurts them just as much.

Sad state of affairs...especially since our republican Constitution gives the conservative such an advantage in key Republic functions.

Great story about this in The New York Times today.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/17/us/american-democracy-threats.html
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Sun 18 Sep, 2022 07:02 am

https://iili.io/iYve5J.jpg

#VoteBlueFFS



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