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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2022 07:05 am
@Builder,
If there was anything to your Hunter Biden canard, why hasn't the RW, specifically the mooks who have Hunter's lap top, shown us even one ******* bit of evidence?????????

You're so full of ****, we smell it from here.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2022 07:07 am
@Builder,
Tell us how corrupt they are, and be specific and back it up.

Can't, can you, you nonce.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2022 07:12 am
@Builder,
1. why don't you credit who wrote that ****?
2. SoC Clinton used legal internet outlet for e-mail. Thank Dick ******* Cheney for that law, and then ask Dick about his SEVEN MILLION "missing" e-mails.

Your research needs to go farther than reading headlines, mopey.
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revelette1
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2022 12:45 pm
@hightor,
Who Will Be Trump's 'Special Master?' Appointment Could Prove Impossible

Quote:
Now that a federal judge has granted Donald Trump's request for a special master to review the documents seized from Mar-a-Lago during last month's FBI raid, questions have been raised as to who could fill that role.

On Monday, U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon granted the former president's request for a special master to be brought in to determine if any of the materials removed from Mar-a-Lago in August, including top secret documents, are protected by attorney-client privilege or executive privilege.

The decision as to who the special master will be will ultimately be made by Cannon, but the judge gave the Department of Justice and Trump's legal team until September 9 to submit a filing that includes a list of potential candidates.

However, given the nature of the documents to be reviewed and the security clearance required to review the classified materials, will make finding a qualified person acceptable to both the Department of Justice and Trump's legal team, extremely difficult.

Mathew Miller, lawyer and former Director of the Office of Public Affairs at the Justice Department tweeted on Monday: "So all Judge Cannon has to do now is find a special master who: a. is an expert in one of the more contested, unexplored areas of the law; b. already has a Top Secret clearance; c. isn't seen as tainted through service in a recent administration. Goood luck."


I think Matthew Miller is giving too much credit to Cannon, she will appoint whoever Trump wants to be special masters. DOJ would do better to appeal, right quick and hope the next Judge is not so obviously biased in favor of Trump.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2022 01:01 pm
@revelette1,
I don't believe they have to turn the documents over to just any yahoo. And that may be what they are shooting for: stalemate.
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hightor
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2022 01:43 pm
@revelette1,
Quote:
...and hope the next Judge is not so obviously biased in favor of Trump.

She's angling for an eventual seat on the Supreme Court. Smile
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2022 03:47 pm
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:


I think Matthew Miller is giving too much credit to Cannon, she will appoint whoever Trump wants to be special masters. DOJ would do better to appeal, right quick and hope the next Judge is not so obviously biased in favor of Trump.


If I’m not mistaken, a DOJ appeal would go to the 11th Circuit. At present, that court is composed of 11 judges (1 seat is vacant). Seven of them are Republican appointed - 6 by Trump, one by G.W. Bush. Four appointed by Obama. So yeah, I’d say there is definitely the possibility of bias.
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Builder
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2022 06:25 pm
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/biden_administration/prez_track_sep06

The figures never lie. Biden is waaaaaaaaay down at 21%
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BillW
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2022 06:51 pm
Worst problem I see right now is that Cannon has ruled that all work being done or contemplated to be done cease and desist immediately!

1) Does this include work that was being done to determine who has seen these highly secret documents and what is the downside of damage done.
2) It has just been reported that documents describing a foreign countries defense and nuclear capabilities was found by FBI agents at Mar-a-Lago. Will the FBI still be allowed to investigate this horrendous discovery wherever it leads?

Obviously, Cannon was giving Trump exactly what he wanted regardless of the avenue DOJ decides to take; a large amount of extra time needed to be spent to resolve this matter. And, probably the greatest time delay is required is to appealed, which is the one that should be decided. The Cannon decision is so stupid and so revolutionary in its writing that it must be at least partially appealed.just to save democracy!
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hightor
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2022 06:55 pm
somebody wrote:
The figures never lie. Biden is waaaaaaaaay down at 21%

Get this – once again somebody cites a source which fails to verify his claim:
Quote:
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll, sponsored by Matt Palumbo's MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN for Tuesday shows that 45% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Biden’s job performance. Fifty-three percent (53%) disapprove.

The latest figures include 23% who Strongly Approve of the job Biden is doing and 44% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -21.

Looks like somebody confused this figure (an index compiled by the polling firm) with percentage of approval. And it's only mid-morning!
BillW
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2022 06:59 pm
@hightor,
a foreigner.........
Builder
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2022 08:14 pm
@hightor,
Looks like you did, indeed find fault with my posting. I gave creepy joe a 21% approval rating, when in fact, the figures are minus 21% overall.

It's never been worse, for an incumbent. Never been better for the actual US prez, which is #45,.



All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.


Arthur Schopenhauer, German philosopher (1788 – 1860)
roger
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2022 08:22 pm
@Builder,

Builder wrote:

Looks like you did, indeed find fault with my posting. I gave creepy joe a 21% approval rating, when in fact, the figures are minus 21% overall.

Okaay. How is a minus approval rate possible. How can less than no one approve.
snood
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2022 08:44 pm
@roger,
Can I venture an answer to that one? Because Builder’s a dumbass?
BillW
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2022 09:07 pm
@snood,
Crikey mate, what a dumbass! I would actually say that what wrote would be 79% positive rating!
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Builder
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2022 09:17 pm
@roger,
Quote:
How is a minus approval rate possible


Best take that up with Rasmussens. I gave the old fossil a better rating, myself.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 6 Sep, 2022 09:24 pm
@Glennn,
nonono,

The server that was used was more secure than the State Dept's at that time.

Vice President Cheney had the same security concerns after the Sept 11 attacks. That's why the law was changed to allow non-government internet connesction.

VP Cheney, by the way "lost" 7 million e-mails. Give me a hair on fire burst of outrage.

You are a victim of an Australian press that confuses scandal for news and facts regarding the US. I understand, we get the same sort of baloney from our press. Everybody is a journalist, when what we need are news people.
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Builder
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2022 01:29 am
@BillW,
Quote:
a foreigner


William, just a few hundred years ago, your forebears invaded a foreign land, and set about destroying the lives of the indigenous humans, so they could take the lands for their own use.

You're a foreigner, in the land you were born into.
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hightor
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2022 03:03 am
Quote:
When President Joe Biden called out “Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans” last Thursday as representative of “an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic,” he drew a clear line between those supporting the former president and those from all parties who support democracy. He quite deliberately drew a line between Trump supporters and “mainstream Republicans” who do not embrace the “extreme ideology” of their former allies.

Immediately, Trump supporters attacked the president and rushed to defend Trump, just as more news broke about his theft of classified documents and other presidential records when he left the White House. This tied the Republican Party to Trump, along with what is a stunning national security story that continues to unfold.

Just tonight we learned that FBI agents found a document detailing the military defenses of a foreign government, including its nuclear capabilities, during last month’s search of Mar-a-Lago. What is at stake here is not simply information about the U.S., or even information about the way our leaders conceive of what is best for the U.S. What is at stake is the security of the U.S. and our democratic allies. Some of the documents they found were so highly restricted that they required special clearances on a need-to-know basis. Trump kept them in boxes at Mar-a-Lago.

This situation is extraordinary, but yesterday, Senator Marco Rubio demonstrated his loyalty to Trump when he referred to Trump’s theft and mishandling of the documents as “a fight over storage of documents.” Rubio is the top Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee.

Yesterday’s decision by Judge Aileen Cannon further illustrated the strength of the MAGA Republicans and their positions in places of power.

Cannon was nominated by Trump and confirmed after he lost the 2020 election. Yesterday she granted Trump’s request for a special master to review the government documents the FBI recovered from Mar-a-Lago on August 8. Today, Ian Millhiser at Vox explained that Cannon’s order could delay the FBI investigation by as much as years (other analysts argue that she has cut off only one avenue of investigation, so they believe it will not be that big a speedbump). The Department of Justice can appeal the decision, which Millhiser agrees with other legal analysts is “riddled with legal errors,” but an appeal would go to the 11th circuit, where Trump appointed 6 of the 11 judges who, if they wished, could further delay the case, and then agree with Cannon. The Department of Justice could then appeal to the Supreme Court: which now has a 6 to 3 Republican majority, three of whom Trump himself appointed.

Cannon’s order appears to have been intended to send a message. Bloomberg News legal and political reporter Zoe Tillman said today that seven senior officials who served in Republican administrations, including two former governors, a former attorney general, a former acting attorney general, and a former deputy attorney general, asked to send in a “friend of the court” brief in opposition to Trump’s request. Cannon denied their request, saying the court “appreciates the movants’ willingness to participate in this matter but does not find…[it]...warranted.”

Millhiser asked: “Why would a judge do this unless they are trying to advertise the fact that they are not open to opposing arguments? Just accept the…brief and then don’t read it if you don’t want to make a public spectacle out of not caring what anyone says.” Los Angeles Times legal affairs columnist Harry Litman said he didn’t think he’d ever seen a court reject a friend of the court brief before.

MAGA Republicans are standing behind Trump in his determination to overturn the 2020 election. In Michigan on Friday, six people filed a suit to order Governor Gretchen Whitmer and Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson to “work together to rerun the Michigan 2020 presidential election as soon as possible.” One of those joining the suit previously handed over her township’s vote tabulator to a group trying to prove “voter fraud” in the election.

And today, Zachary Cohen and Jason Morris of CNN reported that newly released surveillance video shows that on January 7, 2021, a Republican county official in Georgia escorted into her county’s election offices two operatives working with Trump’s attorneys to try to find voter fraud. That same day the voting systems were breached. The official, Cathy Latham, is under investigation for her role as a fake elector and has given conflicting testimony about her actions. Some of Trump’s allies in the fake election scheme seem also to have launched a multistate effort to gain access to voting machines after the 2020 election.

Lies about the election from right-wing media convinced these MAGA Republicans of the Big Lie that the election had been stolen, but documents emerging from the Dominion Voting Systems lawsuit against the Fox News Channel are illustrating that the people feeding those lies knew they were false. Dominion has sued the media giant for defamation, saying its hosts knew the stories they told of the voting machines switching votes were false and that it has been “irreparably harmed” by the lies that will lead to more than $600 million in lost profits over the next 8 years. The document production has yielded a November 2020 email from an FNC producer insisting that it must keep host Jeanine Pirro off the air because she was spreading conspiracy theories to back Trump’s lies that the election had been stolen.

And, today, New Mexico judge Francis J. Mathew ruled that Couy Griffin, the founder of Cowboys for Trump, must be removed from his office as Otero County commissioner for participating in the January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol. In a lawsuit brought by New Mexico citizens, Mathew ruled that Griffin is disqualified for office under the Fourteenth Amendment, which prohibits from holding office anyone who had engaged in “insurrection or rebellion” against the country. This is the first time this clause has been enforced since 1869, and the first time a court has found the attack on the Capitol was an insurrection.

Now other Republicans are weighing in to suggest that, now that the lines have been made very clear indeed, they will stand with the Constitution if there is an attempt to take the government by force. Today, eight former secretaries of defense and five former chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff published an open letter in the national security outlet War on the Rocks outlining the “principles of civilian control and best practices of civil-military relations.” The leading illustration was an image of the U.S. Constitution.

These former military leaders noted the many factors that have created “an exceptionally challenging civil-military environment,” and reiterated that “civilian control of the military is part of the bedrock foundation of American democracy.” They noted that “[t]he military—active-duty, reserve, and National Guard—have carefully delimited roles in law enforcement [that] must be taken only insofar as they are consistent with the Constitution and relevant statutes,” and that “[m]ilitary and civilian leaders must be diligent about keeping the military separate from partisan political activity.”

This is a calmer echo of the open letter the ten living former secretaries of defense published on January 3, 2021, in the Washington Post, which called for a peaceful transition of power after the 2020 election and seemed to warn colleagues not to back the former president’s attempts to create an uprising. They said: “Efforts to involve the U.S. armed forces in resolving election disputes would take us into dangerous, unlawful and unconstitutional territory. Civilian and military officials who direct or carry out such measures would be accountable, including potentially facing criminal penalties, for the grave consequences of their actions on our republic.”

Perhaps most notably, in an interview with Greg Sargent of the Washington Post, published today, longtime conservative Bill Kristol said that, at least in the short term, the Republican Party cannot be saved. “And,” he offered, “if we don’t have two reasonably healthy parties, the unhealthy party has to be defeated.”

And, finally, the formula shortage has largely fallen out of the news, but the administration has not dropped the ball. Yesterday, the administration completed the twenty-second mission of Operation Fly Formula, which has now flown in more than 85 million 8-ounce bottle equivalents.

hcr
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blatham
 
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Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2022 06:29 am
There's a subject I've written about here quite often over the years. That is, the easily demonstrable phenomenon that the most beloved and successful humorists in English-speaking culture have always been overwhelmingly of a liberal mindset. Though there have been some conservative-minded comics/humorists who have found work and audiences, there really are no conservative analogues for Larry David or Richard Prior or Robin Williams or Mel Brooks or Stephen Colbert or Mark Twain or Matt Groening or Woody Allen or Nora Ephron or John Cleese or Groucho or WC Fields, etc (it's a very long list).

For sure, there have been a few individuals who have espoused some conservative notions and who have significant accomplishments in the field but can anyone imagine, say, Dennis Miller or Norm MacDonald performing their typical acts to a large audience of knee-slapping Evangelicals?

This phenomenon has always seemed to me as telling an indicator of important differences in two divergent sorts of mind as one might find. And as it happens, this phenomenon has been studied. https://psmag.com/social-justice/why-arent-conservatives-funny

Quote:
"LIBERALS LOVE TO LAUGH—CONSERVATIVES, NOT SO MUCH
New research helps explain why the right has yet to produce a Jon Stewart or John Oliver.

TOM JACOBSNOV 27, 2017

Political humor has arguably never been more popular. But while its practitioners all have their own distinct styles, their ideology isn't so varied: Whether they come from Stephen, Seth, or Samantha, the jokes are generally supportive of progressive politics.

Why has the right yet to produce its own Daily Show? In a new study, a research team led by Danna Young of the University of Delaware provides a simple answer: As a rule, conservatives are not into comedy.

"We have ruled out the argument that political satire is liberal because it challenges the status quo," the researchers write in the journal Psychology of Popular Media Culture. "When looking only at humor's structure, rather than its target, conservatives are still significantly less likely to appreciate humor than liberals."

The study, conducted in 2015, featured 305 Americans, equally divided between liberals and conservatives. In devising it, Young and her colleagues were curious to know whether ideology affected appreciation of two specific types of humor commonly used in political satire.

With the help of a professional comic, she created eight pairs of apolitical jokes that "made the same argument aimed at the same target—one through irony, and the other through exaggeration."

In each round, participants watched a male comedian sitting behind a test read either the ironic joke, or the matched one that derived humor from overstatement. They were then asked to rate how funny, interesting, smart, and enjoyable they found the joke.

They also completed a series of surveys measuring their political ideology, tolerance for ambiguity (which research has found is commonly lower for conservatives), and sense of humor. To gauge the latter, they expressed their level of agreement with statements such as "Other people tell me that I say funny things," and "Humor helps me cope."

Most important, they filled out a six-item survey measuring "need for cognition"—the extent to which one enjoys activities that require thinking. They expressed their level of agreement with such statements as "I prefer complex to simple problems," and "I only think as hard as I have to."

The results were clear. "Conservatives rated both types of joke stimuli as less funny, smart, enjoyable, and interesting than did liberals," Young and her colleagues write.

This difference "is partly explained by the cognitive activity required to decode the humor," they add, "and in part by the fact that conservatives value humor production and reception less than liberals."

There were no significant differences between the types of joke: The researchers found "Conservatism is associated with lower appreciation of both irony and exaggeration." Indeed, among the personality aspects they considered, the only ones that played a role in humor appreciation were one's sense of humor (obviously) and the aforementioned enjoyment of intellectual pursuits.

In short, understanding a joke requires cognitive effort. Liberals seem to enjoy the process, while conservatives, on average, do not. (Note that no one is claiming liberals are smarter—just that they are more likely to enjoy a cognitive challenge.)

Young and her colleagues note that this dynamic only partially explains why conservatives tend to have less of a sense of humor; other factors remain to be discovered. And it's worth remembering that there are plenty of exceptions to this rule. Ronald Reagan had a fine sense of humor—including about himself.

So, conservative comedians, don't give up hope. Surely there are plenty of jokes that don't require a lot of cognitive effort to understand and appreciate. To wit: Take my health care—please!

What—too soon?" [/quote}

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