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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
bulmabriefs144
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jul, 2022 01:20 pm
@roger,
Learn what?

That 2+2 = 5?

Because it's not.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jul, 2022 01:51 pm
Biden has just threatened war against Iran.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jul, 2022 02:00 pm
@bulmabriefs144,
bulmabriefs144 wrote:

He was attempted to be impeached twice. Read my explanation on the other thread, on the difference between an attempted impeachment and an impeachment that actually does anything.

It's the one that compares impeachment to sex. I'll wait.


TRUMP WAS IMPEACHED.

You apparently do not understand what impeachment means. I cannot battle your ignorance. I suppose you must simply live with it.

If a person is indicted...THAT PERSON IS INDICTED.

If he is not brought to trial for some reason...or if he is brought to trial and found not guilty...

...HE WAS STILL INDICTED.

TRUMP WAS IMPEACHED...AND TWICE AT THAT.

Wake the hell up!
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jul, 2022 02:02 pm
@roger,
roger wrote:

Wrong and refuses to learn.


I just do not understand what is wrong with him. He clearly is wrong on this...and it is totally obvious. But he just will not accept the truth.

(Sorta like Trump losing the election and not being willing to accept that truth.)
snood
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jul, 2022 02:13 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Biden has just threatened war against Iran.

If you’re talking about the same statement as I saw, when Biden was asked if he would go to war with Iran, he replied “Yes. As a last resort.”

That’s not what you’re calling “threatening war”, is it?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jul, 2022 02:20 pm
@snood,
Yes I do.

And that's how it will be seen in the region.

Israel is already engaging in waging cyber warfare.

Hackers caused a fire in an Iranian steelplant.

America has been champing at the bit ever xsnce the Shah was kicked out.
BillW
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jul, 2022 02:20 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I remember this as being a trick question on a history exam in about 4th grade. It is a very distinct point in the separation of powers within the US legislature!
snood
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jul, 2022 02:23 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Yes I do.

And that's how it will be seen in the region.

Israel is already engaging in waging cyber warfare.

Hackers caused a fire in an Iranian steelplant.

America has been champing at the bit ever xsnce the Shah was kicked out.



So if he had said, “No, under no circumstances would we ever go to war with Iran”, that would be a better answer?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jul, 2022 02:27 pm
@snood,
He could have said that talk of war was irresponsible.

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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jul, 2022 02:29 pm
@BillW,
BillW wrote:

I remember this as being a trick question on a history exam in about 4th grade. It is a very distinct point in the separation of powers within the US legislature!


Yup.

Apparently Bulma is under the mistaken impression that "impeachment" means something quite different from its actual meaning. If he is not under that mistaken impression...he would stop saying that Trump was not impeached.
roger
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jul, 2022 05:12 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

If he is not under that mistaken impression...he would stop saying that Trump was not impeached.
I don't think I would want to bet that way.
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bulmabriefs144
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jul, 2022 09:44 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Impeached =/= indicted

Indicted means to find chargeable with a criminal offense, and in due forms of law to accuse of the same, as a means of bringing to trial: specifically said of the action of a grand jury.

https://wikidiff.com/impeach/indict
Quote:
As verbs the difference between impeach and indict is that impeach is to hinder, impede, or prevent while indict is to accuse of wrongdoing; charge.


If you're indicted, you're actually charged of a crime. Cops nab you and say "We found you molesting little children on CSPAN. You're going downtown." Then you sit before a real court. You're an actual perp.

If you're impeached, alot of bureaucrats from Ivy League (pretty much everyone in the legislative branch is a walking case of "check your privilege") send a letter telling how they think you've done something wrong, using vague terms like "abuse of power". They vote that you're done something wrong. Then another court hears the facts (sort of a trial), only they too decide justice by voting.

No, impeachment is not indictment, no it's not a sign of guilt.
https://patriotpost.us/articles/65777-impeachment-101-breakdown-for-overzealous-liberals-2019-09-30

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First, the impeachment process isn’t as straightforward as Democrats would lead their constituents to believe. Sadly, Democrats dangle this proverbial carrot before their voter base, hoping it will distract them from the truth. And it’s working.

The truth: President Trump isn’t getting arrested or locked up (as some naive citizens would believe). And no, opening an impeachment investigation does not automatically lead to removal from office.

You are officially the base, the lowest common denominator, if you believe that impeachment magically does any more that say "We think you're a very very bad person, Mr Trump."

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Speaker of the House (Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi in this case), would announce the inquiry, which means an investigation will open as to whether not the House will file what is called “articles of impeachment.”

The House then needs to file these articles and cast a vote to decide if they will move forward with an impeachment trial.

After the vote, the motion for impeachment goes to the Senate. Here is where the actual impeachment trial and a review of all evidence against the Executive Office begins, upon which two-thirds of the Senate would need to vote against the president. With Republicans being the Senate majority, this means 20 Republican senators would need to vote against President Trump. In other words, they would need to commit career suicide to move forward with removing the president from office.


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Democrats already know that impeachment isn’t viable. Perhaps this motion is set forth to distract their constituents from the truth — that there is hardly a worthy candidate who can beat Trump in the 2020 election. If Democrats had any shred of confidence, they wouldn’t just throw away their chance at winning the presidency.

Of course, they do this without sharing the bad news with their constituents. In fact, they choose to keep the American public uninformed about how impeachment really works. They’d rather have their voter base dance, pop, and lock, even though Democrats have yet to come up with any sort of solution for ailing black communities, for the homeless and economically disadvantaged, for our education system, etc… They promise nothing else but to beat Trump, and from the look of it, they can’t even offer that.


Now this article is dated, but still accurate. Biden is not any fit candidate, and nothing has changed for blacks, the homeless, or our education system. Instead this **** show just goes on and on. In fact, with rising prices, there are MORE homeless.
Builder
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jul, 2022 10:06 pm
@bulmabriefs144,
My take on the impeachments, was that the Ds were being exposed left right and centre, for the criminals they really were, during the Obama escapades, and the lead-up to Hillary getting her fat ass handed to her on a platter.

Their only avenue of diffusing attention, and suppressing investigation into their own actions, was to impeach the sitting president.
bulmabriefs144
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jul, 2022 10:30 pm
@Builder,
I'd say you're on point.

This is also why the COVID pandemic was suddenly exposed a few weeks after the first impeachment attempt ended in acquittal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_impeachment_of_Donald_Trump
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic

Impeachment ended around February 5, COVID is called a "pandemic" March 11. One month and six days. This is (1) a distraction because the democrats could very well have been put on trial for their own misdeeds, and (2) a way to be like "See? See? Trump didn't handle the crisis well."

Of course, had he handled it like Biden might, his own base would reject him, as most of them loathe all this crap (I particularly loathe the fact that churches haven't given it up in some cases; the average worshiper is right of center, but the average priest has gotten left of center, equating social justice with charity). But Trump is Trump, he tells people not to be afraid. And I wasn't. They turn around and say that he knew about it and did nothing. Of course, they also knew and did nothing, until their impeachment failed. Then they looked around for something to use.

Huh, interesting. So some fact checkers checked COVID itself and found it false.
https://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/fact-check/covid-19-not-true-no-evidence-medical-pandemic/
Wilso
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jul, 2022 01:38 am
Not mine, but tell me how it’s wrong.

Only in America can you be pro-death penalty, pro-war, pro-nuclear weapons, pro-guns, pro-torture, anti-health care and ant-food stamps and STILL call yourself “pro-life”.
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jul, 2022 03:32 am

https://iili.io/wh6eln.jpg
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jul, 2022 04:10 am
@bulmabriefs144,
bulmabriefs144 wrote:


Impeached =/= indicted

Indicted means to find chargeable with a criminal offense, and in due forms of law to accuse of the same, as a means of bringing to trial: specifically said of the action of a grand jury.

https://wikidiff.com/impeach/indict
Quote:
As verbs the difference between impeach and indict is that impeach is to hinder, impede, or prevent while indict is to accuse of wrongdoing; charge.


If you're indicted, you're actually charged of a crime. Cops nab you and say "We found you molesting little children on CSPAN. You're going downtown." Then you sit before a real court. You're an actual perp.

If you're impeached, alot of bureaucrats from Ivy League (pretty much everyone in the legislative branch is a walking case of "check your privilege") send a letter telling how they think you've done something wrong, using vague terms like "abuse of power". They vote that you're done something wrong. Then another court hears the facts (sort of a trial), only they too decide justice by voting.

No, impeachment is not indictment, no it's not a sign of guilt.
https://patriotpost.us/articles/65777-impeachment-101-breakdown-for-overzealous-liberals-2019-09-30

Quote:
First, the impeachment process isn’t as straightforward as Democrats would lead their constituents to believe. Sadly, Democrats dangle this proverbial carrot before their voter base, hoping it will distract them from the truth. And it’s working.

The truth: President Trump isn’t getting arrested or locked up (as some naive citizens would believe). And no, opening an impeachment investigation does not automatically lead to removal from office.

You are officially the base, the lowest common denominator, if you believe that impeachment magically does any more that say "We think you're a very very bad person, Mr Trump."

Quote:

Speaker of the House (Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi in this case), would announce the inquiry, which means an investigation will open as to whether not the House will file what is called “articles of impeachment.”

The House then needs to file these articles and cast a vote to decide if they will move forward with an impeachment trial.

After the vote, the motion for impeachment goes to the Senate. Here is where the actual impeachment trial and a review of all evidence against the Executive Office begins, upon which two-thirds of the Senate would need to vote against the president. With Republicans being the Senate majority, this means 20 Republican senators would need to vote against President Trump. In other words, they would need to commit career suicide to move forward with removing the president from office.


Quote:
Democrats already know that impeachment isn’t viable. Perhaps this motion is set forth to distract their constituents from the truth — that there is hardly a worthy candidate who can beat Trump in the 2020 election. If Democrats had any shred of confidence, they wouldn’t just throw away their chance at winning the presidency.

Of course, they do this without sharing the bad news with their constituents. In fact, they choose to keep the American public uninformed about how impeachment really works. They’d rather have their voter base dance, pop, and lock, even though Democrats have yet to come up with any sort of solution for ailing black communities, for the homeless and economically disadvantaged, for our education system, etc… They promise nothing else but to beat Trump, and from the look of it, they can’t even offer that.


Now this article is dated, but still accurate. Biden is not any fit candidate, and nothing has changed for blacks, the homeless, or our education system. Instead this **** show just goes on and on. In fact, with rising prices, there are MORE homeless.


I say that Trump WAS impeached...you say he WAS NOT impeached.
One of us is correct...and that person is not you.

If you want to continue to make a fool of yourself, I am here to help you.
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hightor
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jul, 2022 04:12 am
@bulmabriefs144,
Quote:
I'd say you're on point.

You'd say the earth is flat, too.
Quote:
So some fact checkers checked COVID itself and found it false.

Um...this is from the link you posted. You might want to learn how to read.
Rappler wrote:

At a glance:

Claim: COVID-19 is “not true” and there is no evidence of a medical pandemic.
Rating: FALSE
The facts: The World Health Organization (WHO), the Department of Health (DOH) both say that we are in the middle of a pandemic, which is defined as “an epidemic occurring worldwide, or over a very wide area, crossing international boundaries and usually affecting a large number of people.”
Why we fact checked this: A video containing this claim was emailed to Rappler for verification.

Complete details:

According to a group of doctors, scientists, and peace activists who call themselves the World Doctors Alliance, COVID-19 is “not true” and there is no evidence of a medical pandemic.

They also said that the pandemic is “no worse than a bad flu season,” that 5G networks give people the symptoms of the flu, and that there is no need for lockdowns, masks, social distancing, or quarantine.

This claim was emailed to Rappler for verification. The video where it was made has 1,102 views on the website BitChute.

This claim is false.

The World Health Organization (WHO), the Department of Health (DOH) both say that we are in the midst of a pandemic.

In a bulletin in 2011, the WHO defined a pandemic as “an epidemic occurring worldwide, or over a very wide area, crossing international boundaries and usually affecting a large number of people.”

As of Monday, November 9, the WHO says there have been 49,578,590 confirmed cases of COVID-19, including 1,245,717 deaths reported to them. These are spread across countries in both the northern and southern hemispheres.

In the Philippines, as of November 5, there have been 396,395 confirmed cases, 7,539 of whom have died.

The other claims made in the video are also false.

COVID-19 is not the same as the flu. According to the WHO, although influenza and COVID-19 have similarities, there are also a number of differences.

For example, the flu can spread faster than COVID-19. Also, a major driver of transmission for the flu is the transmission of the virus in the first 3 to 5 days, but this is not a major driver for COVID-19. For the flu, children are major drivers of virus transmission, while for COVID-19, children are less affected than adults.

A number of Facebook users and websites have also spread the rumor that 5G networks are linked to the spread of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that spreads the disease COVID-19. Rappler debunked this claim in April.

The virus is spread through respiratory droplets. The WHO has stressed that viruses cannot travel on radio waves or mobile networks and that the virus is spreading in countries without 5G mobile networks.

In the video, Dolores Cahill, a professor at the Department of Translation Medicine of the University College Dublin said, “There is no need for the lockdown, there is no need for fear, there’s no need for masks, for social distancing, or for quarantining people.”

As of October 13, the WHO still recommends that people maintain at least a one meter distance from others and to wear masks around other people.

Some European countries, including Ireland, where Cahill is from, reimposed lockdown measures from late October to early November.

Since airing her views on COVID-19 in May, Cahill has been asked to resign as vice chair of the Scientific Committee of the Innovative Medicines Initiative (IMI). IMI is a partnership between the European Union and the European pharmaceutical industry which aims to improve health through the development of, and patient access to, innovative medicines.

Berlin’s Max Planck Institute for Molecular Genetics (MPIMG), where Cahill worked for 8 years, has also distanced itself from her, saying they did not want to associate with the claims that had been made.
hightor
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jul, 2022 04:27 am
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Department of Homeland Security Inspector General Joseph Cuffari, a Trump appointee, yesterday sent a surprising letter to the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and its House counterpart. The letter said that the Department of Homeland Security had notified Cuffari’s office that “many U.S. Secret Service (USSS) text messages, from January 5 and 6, 2021, were erased as part of a device-replacement program. The USSS erased those text messages after OIG [Office of Inspector General] requested records of electronic communications from the USSS, as part of our evaluation of events at the Capitol on January 6.” Further, the letter said, DHS personnel had repeatedly refused to produce records without first showing them to attorneys, which had created long delays and confusion over “whether all records had been produced.”

In other words, an inspector general thought the Secret Service had deleted texts from agents on January 5 and 6 after being instructed to produce them. Representative Bennie Thompson (D-MS) chairs both the House Homeland Security committee and the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the U.S. Capitol. Cuffari’s letter sent the information about deleted texts directly to the top.

The Secret Service immediately responded that “the insinuation that the Secret Service maliciously deleted text messages following a request is false. In fact, the Secret Service has been fully cooperating with the OIG in every respect—whether it be interviews, documents, emails, or texts.”

But this information raises questions about the role of Secret Service members in the events of January 6. Trump blurred the lines between the Secret Service and the presidency when he appointed Secret Service assistant director Anthony Ornato his deputy chief of staff in December 2019. We know Vice President Mike Pence refused to get into a car driven by a Secret Service agent on January 6, apparently concerned that the driver might not follow his instruction, and that President-elect Biden had to be assigned a new Secret Service team out of concerns that the presidential detail was allied with Trump. And last week, the Trump-appointed director of the Secret Service, James Murray, resigned.

The only good news here for Republicans is that the outrage over these deleted (or lost) texts has distracted from the firestorm over the 10-year-old child from Ohio forced to travel to Indiana for an abortion after being raped. That story, reported by the doctor who performed the abortion, was picked up by national news and by President Joe Biden, who asked people to “imagine being that little girl” in a speech about abortion rights.

Ohio’s attorney general Dave Yost told the Fox News Channel that he doubted the story because he had not heard that there had been any report of a rape, although as journalist Magdi Semrau noted on Twitter, sexual assault, especially sexual assault of a child, is rarely reported. Yost later said “there is not a damn scintilla of evidence” that such a thing happened. Right-wing media immediately began to assert that the story was false, and the Indiana attorney general, Todd Rokita, went further, telling Fox News Channel host Jesse Watters that his office would investigate the doctor who provided abortion care to the child, suggesting she had not filed a report on the case as legally required.

Today, law enforcement officers in Columbus, Ohio, arrested a 27-year-old man who confessed to raping the child. In addition, Politico found the required report filed correctly. A lawyer for the doctor released a statement saying the doctor “took every appropriate and proper action in accordance with the law and both her medical and ethical training as a physician. She followed all relevant policies, procedures, and regulations in this case, just as she does every day to provide the best possible care for her patients. She has not violated any law, including patient privacy laws, and she has not been disciplined by her employer. We are considering legal action against those who have smeared my client.”

When this Supreme Court, packed by former president Trump and the Republican Senators with three new “originalists,” handed down the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health decision on June 24, 2022, many people observed that the dog had caught the car. Republicans have turned out evangelical voters for years with the promise of overturning the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision legalizing abortion nationally, but the truth is that Roe was popular, and legal abortion hid the many terrible events that led to its legalization in the first place. According to one estimate, in the 1960s there were between 200,000 and 1.2 million illegal abortions annually, which created such a public health crisis that doctors set out to decriminalize abortion and keep that medical issue between a woman and her doctor.

Now, right off the bat of the Dobbs decision, Americans have to grapple with precisely the sort of case that dramatically illustrates why people require abortion rights.

In response, some anti-abortion activists have doubled down on the idea that no abortion is acceptable. Lawyer Jim Bopp, who is the general counsel for the National Right to Life Committee, told Megan Messerly and Adam Wren of Politico that under the laws he would like to enact, the 10-year-old victim “would have had the baby, and as many women who have had babies as a result of rape, we would hope that she would understand the reason and ultimately the benefit of having the child.”

Since few people can stomach the idea of a 10-year-old rape victim forced to bear a child, other anti-abortion activists are suddenly saying that such an abortion is not an abortion at all because it is necessary to save the life of the mother, although many of the new state laws make no such exception. They have also suddenly begun to say that abortion care for an ectopic pregnancy, which is never viable and which poses a deadly threat to the pregnant person, is not an abortion either. In both cases, this is a sudden carve out that is inaccurate: both of these medical procedures are abortion, and both are illegal now in certain states.

President Biden responded to the Dobbs decision with federal rules clarifying that under the Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act, doctors in hospitals that use federal money must provide appropriate treatment to patients experiencing ectopic pregnancy, pregnancy loss, or other life-threatening conditions, or transfer them to places that will, “irrespective of any state laws or mandates that apply to specific procedures.”

But Republicans are pushing for even greater restrictions over abortion. Today, Texas attorney general Ken Paxton, who was indicted seven years ago for felony securities fraud but has yet to stand trial, sued the Biden administration over that rule, claiming that it is an “attempt to use federal law to transform every emergency room in this country into a walk-in abortion clinic.”

Meanwhile, Senator James Lankford (R-OK) today blocked an attempt by Senate Democrats to pass a law protecting the right of women to cross state lines to get abortion care. Apparently unaware that one of the key hallmarks of an authoritarian state is its refusal to let citizens cross borders, Lankford indicated he was willing to keep pregnant people from crossing state lines. “Does that child in the womb have the right to travel in their future?” Lankford said. “Do they get to live?”

And although the Supreme Court justified the Dobbs decision with the argument that it would simply send the question of abortion back to the states, a federal abortion ban is already on the table. Representative Mike Kelly (R-PA) has introduced HR 705, the so-called Heartbeat Protection Act, to make abortion illegal everywhere.

Today, when asked if Democrats would compromise over abortion, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said “We’re not going to negotiate a woman’s right to choose.” She added, “Republicans have sometimes said on the floor that Nancy Pelosi thinks she knows more about having babies than the Pope. Yes I do, and I think any Pope would agree.”

Pelosi has five children.

That the extremism of those now in charge of the Republican Party might convince voters to crush the party in the midterms is evident in today’s responses to that extremism. On the same day that Trump teased the idea that he might announce that he’s running for president in 2024 before the midterms, a group of conservative intellectuals released a document proving with extensive evidence that the 2020 election was not stolen, Trump lost it.

That document, “Lost, Not Stolen,” destroys the Big Lie but does not call for getting rid of the many new state laws based on that lie, laws that seem designed to cement the rule of Republicans in certain states regardless of the will of the majorities in those states. It also doesn’t discuss the independent state legislature doctrine, which would enable state legislatures to name whatever slate of presidential electors they wished, regardless of the will of the voters, a doctrine that would have given Trump a second term and that the Supreme Court has said it will consider.

It appears that old-line conservatives would like to push Trump offstage, but his role in the January 6 insurrection got more attention today when a police officer from Washington, D.C., corroborated the testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson, Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows’s aide, who said she had heard that Trump attacked a Secret Service agent on January 6.

Trump and his children Don Jr. and Ivanka were scheduled to testify under oath tomorrow in New York City in the New York attorney general’s investigation into the Trump Organization's business practices, but that testimony will be put off because of the death today of Ivana Trump, Trump’s first wife and mother of his three eldest children. Ivana Trump, 73, was found dead at the foot of a stairway. Trump announced her death on his social media network, calling her “a wonderful, beautiful, and amazing woman, who led a great and inspirational life.”

At the bottom of the announcement was a button to donate to Trump’s political action committee.

hcr
bulmabriefs144
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jul, 2022 07:19 am
@hightor,
Oooh stock retort. I've been burned!

Yeah these people are hard hitting fact-checkers. I agree with them, but I think the article is arranged in a funny way.

I'm more impressed that you actually read the link.
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