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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
McGentrix
 
  -3  
Reply Fri 8 Jul, 2022 02:16 pm
@Builder,
And you believe slabs of stone are something more than slabs of stone. People like you lend credence to extremists. Imagine your reaction if it were a stone slab with the 10 commandments written on them? Also some hokey religious thing on stone slabs.... Pathetic dude.
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bulmabriefs144
 
  -1  
Reply Fri 8 Jul, 2022 06:17 pm
@McGentrix,
(1) The Georgia Guidestones are not art, they are a series of doctrines about the NWO, and how humans should live perpetually under population control. This is the same teachings of Malthus that thought that the poor just die.
https://quotefancy.com/media/wallpaper/3840x2160/2860347-Thomas-Malthus-Quote-Instead-of-recommending-cleanliness-to-the.jpg
I am glad this monument was smashed up, because it represents that this sort of thing is okay. No. This is America, we don't do eugenics or socialism. Not anymore, and we never should have.
https://www.truthcontrol.com/files/truthcontrol/images/georgia%20guidestones%203%20(1).jpg
(Population under 500 million? No thanks. And the others seem to suggest secular humanism putting humans in a sort of Equilibrium society where people aren't able to feel or have history or worship freely)
(2) These same ilk that would get upset about the smashing of these monuments were perfectly happy defacing real monuments, solely on the basis that people were white (or not woke enough). In a nearby town to me, a statue that had a regular soldier got the man removed just leaving a post with names. What for? Because angry radicals wanted to smash up more stuff.
(3) Art does matter. If we have nothing but brutalist buildings and horrific imagery :ahem:
https://magsonthemove.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/10769284885_772cfa3841_o.jpg
(Actually killed its sculptor)
https://magsonthemove.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/image50-e1438202671405.jpg
https://magsonthemove.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/image61-e1438203052147-510x680.jpg
(A number of creepy post-apocalyptic pictures, including one where a Nazi with a scimitar is trying to attack)
it does enormous damage to human consciousness.

Artwork and monuments are symbols.


This is why I oppose things like trying to rid people of Confederate statues. Not only do the people doing the removing literally know nothing about the Civil War, but some of the people they demonize were actually fairly decent. Stonewall Jackson and Robert E Lee weren't horrible racists.
https://thehistoryjunkie.com/stonewall-jackson-facts-and-accomplishments/
https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/a-good-reason-to-honor-robert-e-lee/
On the other hand, there were plenty of northerners that were scoundrels. Should we make statues to carpetbaggers? Or violent anti-white blacks?

Yes, I oppose people who make art that seems to glorify some big apocalypse where most of the population will die. But no, I support people like the Buddha and Jesus. Though I don't like idols.
McGentrix
 
  -4  
Reply Fri 8 Jul, 2022 06:54 pm
@bulmabriefs144,
They are certainly art.
Just as this is art:
https://i0.wp.com/altoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/10-Commandments.jpg

The majority of the world believes this is bullshit, meaningless, hokey words from religions responsible for more death in world history than any other single source.

What do you think about the other things listed on the guidestones? Well, I mean I should ask you what Alex Jones thinks as that seems to be who you get your talking points from.
Region Philbis
 
  3  
Reply Sat 9 Jul, 2022 06:57 am

Musk tells Twitter he wants out of deal to buy it.
Twitter says it will force him to close the sale

(cnn)
bulmabriefs144
 
  -2  
Reply Sat 9 Jul, 2022 10:38 am
@McGentrix,
The ten commandments you show above are art.
The pyramids are art.
Angkor Wat is art.
Christ the Redeemer is art.

These are things that raise the value of humanity. They make them feel things, make them think, and teach them of their own worth. Art fulfills the purpose God gave us.
https://www.christianstudylibrary.org/article/art-gift-god
Quote:
In many professions — for example, in nursing, teach­ing, the police or prison serv­ice, etc. — there is a clear aspect of service, something which is clearly compatible with a Christian outlook. But being an artist seems neither very "useful" nor very Chris­tian to many. Can you relate painting pictures to Biblical principles?

The arts, no less than science, agriculture, under­standing and wisdom are a gift from God. In this sense, art needs no justification, just as a mountain or a star, or indeed man himself need no justification. Their meaning is that they have been created by God and are sustained by him.

So art has meaning as art, because God thought it good to give art and beauty to mankind. Exodus 31:3 tells us that Bezalel was "filled with the Spirit of God ... to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver and bronze". This is the first mention in the Bible of a man being "filled with the Spirit of God", and it is not for the purpose of preaching or priestly activities but for artistic ability. Also, Exodus 25 tells us about the building of the Tabernacle, with instructions for decorative schemes and beautiful adorn­ments representing natural forms. These incidents show us that God loves beauty and has given us a sense whereby we too can enjoy it.

The function of art is both to be a "mirror" to our cul­ture and to exert an influence on that culture. The arts are also one of the greatest gifts God has given us, cheering the heart, stimulating the mind and enriching human life. Ultimately, as with all gifts, art is there to give glory to God, the greatest creator.


Right? Okay, so what do we define modern art, where such things as minimalism, brutalism, and artistic satire pervade? They do not enrich human life, they degrade it. They do not give glory to God, they reject God in favor of authoritarianism, and anti-life principles. "To rule faith with tempered reason"? In other words, to push faith out of the way and declare "rational thought" only is permitted. Nevermind that secular humanism is not and has never been rational. They go on to say that nature and not the beauty of the human experience is valuable, literally equating humanity with a cancer, and telling to limit it to 500 million, just over the population of the US alone. Btw, population is not the problem, but bad government.
[youtube]https://youtu.be/KUY4ztwIVfA[/youtube]
It is one thing for humans to live in balance with other animals. It is quite another to be forced into population control by evil and misguided idealists.

Yes, I do have a problem with things that are not art. Which cut down or degrade humans. Here's an example from Harry Potter.
https://www.spectatornews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/WEB_harrypotter_Kolell.jpg

Here's another. Extremists are literally oppressing the dead through defacing of real art.
https://wordsmith327861751.files.wordpress.com/2020/07/cb7a8cd204f1423e881e0f75b2716cc5-1.jpg?w=1024
This same article tries to tell us "why these statues need to go", but I think having colonial and confederate people kiss the ground speaks for itself.

The Georgia Guidestones is one real example of oppressive "art."
And the Denver Airport murals appears to be made by the same dangerous idealists. It depicts longingly the destruction of most of the world's population and some sort of green utopia. Actually, what happens when you start devaluing and destroying humanity is that it never stops.
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snood
 
  4  
Reply Sat 9 Jul, 2022 03:38 pm
“It’s not about not compromising; it’s about not showing up to the table already at the compromise.”

- Maxwell Frost (D)
25y.o. Congressional Candidate for Florida’s 10th District.

This is a young man to watch.
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hightor
 
  3  
Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2022 05:46 am
Choose your reality: Trust wanes, conspiracy theories rise

Quote:
Daniel Charles Wilson believes the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, were an inside job. The war in Ukraine is “totally scripted” and COVID-19 is “completely fake.” The Boston Marathon bombing? Mass shootings in Newtown, Connecticut, and Buffalo, New York, and Uvalde, Texas? “Crisis actors,” he says.

Wilson, a 41-year-old from London, Ontario, has doubts about free elections, vaccines and the Jan. 6 insurrection, too. He accepts little of what has happened in the past 20 years and cheerfully predicts that someday, the internet will make everyone as distrustful as he is.

“It’s the age of information, and the hidden government, the people who control everything, they know they can’t win,” Wilson told The Associated Press. “They’re all lying to us. But we’re going to break through this. It will be a good change for everyone.”

Wilson, who is now working on a book about his views, is not an isolated case of perpetual disbelief. He speaks for a growing number of people in Western nations who have lost faith in democratic governance and a free press, and who have turned to conspiracy theories to fill the void.

Rejecting what they hear from scientists, journalists or public officials, these people instead embrace tales of dark plots and secret explanations. And their beliefs, say experts who study misinformation and extremism, reflect a widespread loss of faith in institutions like government and media.

A poll conducted last year by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research found that just 16% of Americans say democracy is working well or extremely well. Another 38% said it’s working only somewhat well.

Other surveys reveal how many people in the United States now doubt the media, politicians, science and even each other.

The distrust has gone so deep that even groups that seem ideologically aligned are questioning each others’ motives and intentions.

On the day before Independence Day in Boston this year, a group of about 100 masked men carrying fascist flags marched through the city. Members proudly uploaded videos and photos of the march to online forums popular with supporters of former President Donald Trump and QAnon adherents, who believe a group of satanic, cannibalistic child molesters secretly runs the globe.

Instead of praise, the white supremacists were met with incredulity. Some posters said the marchers were clearly FBI agents or members of antifa — shorthand for anti-fascists — looking to defame Trump supporters. It didn’t matter that the men boasted of their involvement and pleaded to be believed. “Another false flag,” wrote one self-described conservative on Telegram.

Similarly, when an extremist website that sells unregulated ghost guns — firearms without serial numbers — asked its followers about their July 4th plans, several people responded by accusing the group of working for the FBI. When someone claiming to be Q, the figure behind QAnon, reappeared online recently, many conservatives who support the movement speculated that the new Q was actually a government plant.

This past week, when a Georgia monument that some conservative Christians criticized as satanic was bombed, many posters on far-right message boards cheered. But many others said they didn’t believe the news.

“I don’t trust it. I’m still thinking ff,” wrote one woman on Twitter, referencing “false flag,” a term commonly used by conspiracy theorists to describe an event they think was staged.

The global public relations firm Edelman has conducted surveys about public trust for more than two decades, beginning after the 1999 World Trade Organization’s meeting in Seattle was marred by anti-globalization riots. Tonia Reis, director of Edelman’s Trust Barometer surveys, said trust is a precious commodity that’s vital for the economy and government to function.

“Trust is absolutely essential to everything in society working well,” Reis said. “It’s one of those things that, like air, people don’t think about it until they realize they don’t have it, or they’ve lost it or damaged it. And then it can be too late.”

For experts who study misinformation and human cognition, the fraying of trust is tied to the rise of the internet and the way it can be exploited on contentious issues of social and economic change.

Distrust and suspicion offered obvious advantages to small bands of early humans trying to survive in a dangerous world, and those emotions continue to help people gauge personal risk today. But distrust is not always well suited to the modern world, which requires people to trust the strangers who inspect their food, police their streets and write their news. Democratic institutions, with their regulations and checks and balances, are one way of adding accountability to that trust.

When that trust breaks down, polarization and anxiety increases, creating opportunities for people pushing their own “ alternative facts.”

“People can’t fact check the world,” said Dr. Richard Friedman, a New York City psychiatrist and professor at Weill Cornell Medical College who has written about the psychology of trust and belief. “They’re awash in competing streams of information, both good and bad. They’re anxious about the future, and there are a lot of bad actors with the ability to weaponize that fear and anxiety.”

Those bad actors include grifters selling bad investments or sham remedies for COVID-19, Russian disinformation operatives trying to undermine Western democracies, or even homegrown politicians like Trump, whose lies about the 2020 election spurred the Jan. 6 attack.

Research and surveys show belief in conspiracy theories is common and widespread. Believers are more likely to to get their information from social media than professional news organizations. The rise and fall of particular conspiracy theories are often linked to real-world events and social, economic or technological change.

Like Wilson, people who believe in one conspiracy theory are likely to believe in others too, even if they are mutually contradictory. A 2012 paper, for instance, looked at beliefs surrounding the death of Princess Diana of Wales in a 1997 car crash. Researchers found that subjects who believed strongly that Diana was murdered said they also felt strongly that she could have faked her own death.

Wilson said his belief in conspiracies began on Sept. 11, 2001, when he couldn’t accept that the towers could be knocked down by airliners. He said he found information on the internet that confirmed his beliefs, and then began to suspect there were conspiracies behind other world events.

“You have to put it all together yourself,” Wilson said. “The hidden reality, what’s really going on, they don’t want you to know.”

apnews
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2022 06:18 am
https://assets.amuniversal.com/ddb44d40e102013ab618005056a9545d.png
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2022 06:22 am
@Region Philbis,
I love it when the rich eat each other. I hope the lawyers all get rich off these two wannabe oligarchs.
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Frank Apisa
 
  4  
Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2022 06:34 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:


Choose your reality: Trust wanes, conspiracy theories rise

Quote:
Daniel Charles Wilson believes the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, were an inside job. The war in Ukraine is “totally scripted” and COVID-19 is “completely fake.” The Boston Marathon bombing? Mass shootings in Newtown, Connecticut, and Buffalo, New York, and Uvalde, Texas? “Crisis actors,” he says.

Wilson, a 41-year-old from London, Ontario, has doubts about free elections, vaccines and the Jan. 6 insurrection, too. He accepts little of what has happened in the past 20 years and cheerfully predicts that someday, the internet will make everyone as distrustful as he is.

“It’s the age of information, and the hidden government, the people who control everything, they know they can’t win,” Wilson told The Associated Press. “They’re all lying to us. But we’re going to break through this. It will be a good change for everyone.”

Wilson, who is now working on a book about his views, is not an isolated case of perpetual disbelief. He speaks for a growing number of people in Western nations who have lost faith in democratic governance and a free press, and who have turned to conspiracy theories to fill the void.

Rejecting what they hear from scientists, journalists or public officials, these people instead embrace tales of dark plots and secret explanations. And their beliefs, say experts who study misinformation and extremism, reflect a widespread loss of faith in institutions like government and media.

A poll conducted last year by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research found that just 16% of Americans say democracy is working well or extremely well. Another 38% said it’s working only somewhat well.

Other surveys reveal how many people in the United States now doubt the media, politicians, science and even each other.

The distrust has gone so deep that even groups that seem ideologically aligned are questioning each others’ motives and intentions.

On the day before Independence Day in Boston this year, a group of about 100 masked men carrying fascist flags marched through the city. Members proudly uploaded videos and photos of the march to online forums popular with supporters of former President Donald Trump and QAnon adherents, who believe a group of satanic, cannibalistic child molesters secretly runs the globe.

Instead of praise, the white supremacists were met with incredulity. Some posters said the marchers were clearly FBI agents or members of antifa — shorthand for anti-fascists — looking to defame Trump supporters. It didn’t matter that the men boasted of their involvement and pleaded to be believed. “Another false flag,” wrote one self-described conservative on Telegram.

Similarly, when an extremist website that sells unregulated ghost guns — firearms without serial numbers — asked its followers about their July 4th plans, several people responded by accusing the group of working for the FBI. When someone claiming to be Q, the figure behind QAnon, reappeared online recently, many conservatives who support the movement speculated that the new Q was actually a government plant.

This past week, when a Georgia monument that some conservative Christians criticized as satanic was bombed, many posters on far-right message boards cheered. But many others said they didn’t believe the news.

“I don’t trust it. I’m still thinking ff,” wrote one woman on Twitter, referencing “false flag,” a term commonly used by conspiracy theorists to describe an event they think was staged.

The global public relations firm Edelman has conducted surveys about public trust for more than two decades, beginning after the 1999 World Trade Organization’s meeting in Seattle was marred by anti-globalization riots. Tonia Reis, director of Edelman’s Trust Barometer surveys, said trust is a precious commodity that’s vital for the economy and government to function.

“Trust is absolutely essential to everything in society working well,” Reis said. “It’s one of those things that, like air, people don’t think about it until they realize they don’t have it, or they’ve lost it or damaged it. And then it can be too late.”

For experts who study misinformation and human cognition, the fraying of trust is tied to the rise of the internet and the way it can be exploited on contentious issues of social and economic change.

Distrust and suspicion offered obvious advantages to small bands of early humans trying to survive in a dangerous world, and those emotions continue to help people gauge personal risk today. But distrust is not always well suited to the modern world, which requires people to trust the strangers who inspect their food, police their streets and write their news. Democratic institutions, with their regulations and checks and balances, are one way of adding accountability to that trust.

When that trust breaks down, polarization and anxiety increases, creating opportunities for people pushing their own “ alternative facts.”

“People can’t fact check the world,” said Dr. Richard Friedman, a New York City psychiatrist and professor at Weill Cornell Medical College who has written about the psychology of trust and belief. “They’re awash in competing streams of information, both good and bad. They’re anxious about the future, and there are a lot of bad actors with the ability to weaponize that fear and anxiety.”

Those bad actors include grifters selling bad investments or sham remedies for COVID-19, Russian disinformation operatives trying to undermine Western democracies, or even homegrown politicians like Trump, whose lies about the 2020 election spurred the Jan. 6 attack.

Research and surveys show belief in conspiracy theories is common and widespread. Believers are more likely to to get their information from social media than professional news organizations. The rise and fall of particular conspiracy theories are often linked to real-world events and social, economic or technological change.

Like Wilson, people who believe in one conspiracy theory are likely to believe in others too, even if they are mutually contradictory. A 2012 paper, for instance, looked at beliefs surrounding the death of Princess Diana of Wales in a 1997 car crash. Researchers found that subjects who believed strongly that Diana was murdered said they also felt strongly that she could have faked her own death.

Wilson said his belief in conspiracies began on Sept. 11, 2001, when he couldn’t accept that the towers could be knocked down by airliners. He said he found information on the internet that confirmed his beliefs, and then began to suspect there were conspiracies behind other world events.

“You have to put it all together yourself,” Wilson said. “The hidden reality, what’s really going on, they don’t want you to know.”

apnews


One thing we apparently will never have a shortage of...are crazy people who just do not want the world to work the way the world does...and always want to think there is something nefarious afoot.

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bulmabriefs144
 
  -2  
Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2022 06:35 am
@hightor,
Daniel Charles Wilson is right.

There are scripted events.

We have a number of federal agencies, all of who have guns, technology, and personnel.

I was visiting a potential love interest in old town Fredericksburg, at a coffee shop. Only, the roads for several blocks led me on a detour around the proposed meeting place. There was supposedly some festival going on. That happened to involve the exact zone of the coffee shop. It occurred to me later that if an elaborate prank like this could be done around one block, basically all bets are off for an area the size of a school.

You wanna say there's a shooting going on? You can actually do so, by removing everyone during a fire drill, planting a gun and fake bodies, filming it, and pulling the props before anyone gets back in. You can even have someone holding a gun and some people acting afraid. Oh wait, how would you get this footage? Realistically, nobody should have live footage of a school shooting, because they are running away.

You have to pay the principal and a few "witnesses" most of which can talk after/before school hours. You go home, your mom is like "I heard about the shooting, are you okay?" There wasn't any shooting. You know that, some of the town knows that, the media crew has already left, and wouldn't accept that story anyway, since they are part of the narrative.
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revelette1
 
  4  
Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2022 07:32 am
How an upcoming Supreme Court case could upend 2024 election laws, lawsuits

More than likely, this will go the NC lawsuit's way. There will be no reason to even bother voting.
Frank Apisa
 
  5  
Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2022 07:54 am
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:

How an upcoming Supreme Court case could upend 2024 election laws, lawsuits

More than likely, this will go the NC lawsuit's way. There will be no reason to even bother voting.


I understand your anguish on this, but vote everyone must!

Also, while I am bothered by many of the things happening at the SCOTUS, I am trying hard to be as positive as possible. I think the court, with the exception of Thomas and Alito...can be fair, even though they come from a perspective I do not share. Essentially, they seem to be saying that some things are not protected by the Constitution...and it is the government's job to see that those protections are actually written into that document. Until then, it is up to state legislatures to do that protecting.

We all knew this was coming...and unfortunately, we got a piece of **** like McConnell to engineer it under another piece of **** like Trump.

Now we have got to work our way out of it.
revelette1
 
  3  
Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2022 10:00 am
@Frank Apisa,
It depends on that upcoming ruling. If courts and federal courts have no say in government, and it's all up to state legislators, we think we have unfair gerrymandering now, all the red states will go town on rigging the system to favor republicans in elections.

I think Trump was just the tip of the iceberg. DeSantis is worse, and he is not so crass seeming.
Frank Apisa
 
  4  
Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2022 10:07 am
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:

It depends on that upcoming ruling. If courts and federal courts have no say in government, and it's all up to state legislators, we think we have unfair gerrymandering now, all the red states will go town on rigging the system to favor republicans in elections.

I think Trump was just the tip of the iceberg. DeSantis is worse, and he is not so crass seeming.


Some how, the sane people have to gain control of the federal government...and get the national government to set standards ALL states will have to follow. The bullshit of the states doing the job is an absurdity...which was part of the point I was trying (obviously unsuccessfully) to make.

We certainly would not have allowed that to happen with regard to slavery. We should not allow it to happen with regard to abortion access, non-traditional marriage...or any of the other items American conservatives want to control.

BUT...the strict constructionists are not entirely wrong. We have a means for changing the Constitution so that it more accurately reflects, on a national level, the sensibilities of todays society.

SOMEHOW we have got to do it.

I have no idea of how that will be done, which is why I suspect partitioning is the way it will ultimately be resolved.
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snood
 
  3  
Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2022 11:09 am
Herschel Walker on the climate/Green New Deal/air:

"Since we don't control the air our good air decided to float over to China's bad air so when China gets our good air, their bad air got to move. So it moves over to our good air space. Then now we got we to clean that back up."
hightor
 
  3  
Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2022 11:17 am
@snood,
Rolling Eyes
snood
 
  3  
Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2022 11:46 am
@hightor,
You would think Rev. Warnock would have it made in the shade. But then you have to think about MAGA voters.
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bulmabriefs144
 
  -3  
Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2022 09:08 pm
@revelette1,
(LINK)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/816868397836926996/996250505783279687/unknown.png
Dumb girl holds up a sign that says "As a girl, I hope that one day, I may have as many rights as a gun."

I see, so...

1. Must have a background check to add to the home (marriage for instance). From then on the person who takes her is registered and tracked just for having.
2. In some areas, not even allowed to leave the home. A license with fee is required for one to be out in public.
3. Prohibited from polling places
4. Banned from entering many buildings, like courthouses, schools, and colleges.
5. Banned from federal buildings.
6. Banned from Washington D.C.
7. Banned from certain businesses at the owner’s discretion.
8. Locked up when not in use (in some states)
9. Not allowed behind security in an airport or in the passenger cabin of an airplane.
10. Can’t be too short without paying the government a $200 fee.
11. In certain states, is only allowed into a if on an approved list of models.
12. Cannot move across state lines without going through the government.

More proof that liberals do not know what the hell they are talking about.
McGentrix
 
  -3  
Reply Tue 12 Jul, 2022 07:34 am
@bulmabriefs144,
All valid points for a vapid liberal with no clue.
 

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