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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
snood
 
  2  
Mon 3 Jan, 2022 04:19 pm
@hightor,
I apologize for my tone. I’m frustrated. It was a very well written article that summed up the size of the potential shitshow approaching. And the insights about which brand of fascism a 2nd Trump presidency would resemble were interesting.
snood
 
  2  
Mon 3 Jan, 2022 04:21 pm
@Mame,
Mame wrote:

It was written by a Canadian university professor (UofT, if I recall) and it was meant, primarily, for Canadians. Most of the article is about why we should be concerned, everything leading up to now, where the US politics and populace has been and is going, and basically that Canadians/Canada are/is affected by everything that happens in the US. And the author is correct; we (Canada) shouldn't be asleep at the wheel.


I know who it was written by, and I understand the message. Thoroughly.
Mame
 
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Mon 3 Jan, 2022 04:26 pm
@snood,
Well, if it was written for Canadians what are you in such a snit about?
snood
 
  2  
Mon 3 Jan, 2022 04:40 pm
@Mame,
Thanks for your concern.
I think I’m “in a snit” because the NY AG issued subpoenas for Trump and his wife and son, they basically said to shove it, and the whole world shrugged.

But it might have to do with too much sugar in my diet.

snood
 
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Mon 3 Jan, 2022 04:43 pm

I get a real kick out of how important it is to some of you that I mind my manners.
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izzythepush
 
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Mon 3 Jan, 2022 05:07 pm
@snood,
What should the world do?

This is an American affair, I doubt the UN will be welcomed in to set up an inquiry.
hightor
 
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Mon 3 Jan, 2022 05:08 pm
@snood,
Quote:
I’m frustrated.


That's okay. Honestly, I get it.

I've got things weighing on me which have really constrained my creativity and it's come down to the continuation of COVID and climate change. The ******* pandemic has pretty much sidelined musical performance and I've hung my band of ten years out to dry. Meanwhile COP21 was a total cop-out and I have no confidence that we're going to avoid a bunch of environmental **** that would have already been bad enough even without our political system going to hell before our eyes.

Your concerns are just as important to you. I know that the apparent impunity of rich white assholes and the timidity of the legal response has been a concern, a flashpoint even, and I can only imagine how frustrating it is. (Personally, I try to convince myself that a lot more is being done behind the scenes but I know that's probably just hopium.)

It's not surprising that our contributions and our replies will reflect our unease and our impatience.

Just imagine how it's going to be when the newly-elected Republican majority impeaches Joe Biden in 2023.

One other thing. The 2nd Amendment will be the literal bullet through the head to democracy in the USA.

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snood
 
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Mon 3 Jan, 2022 05:30 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

What should the world do?

This is an American affair, I doubt the UN will be welcomed in to set up an inquiry.


It’s amazing, in a kind of puke-out-my-guts way, but Trump really seems to have stumbled into a situation wherein he can completely stymie the American justice system. I don’t know what anyone can do about it, and I certainly have no clue what the leaders of other democracies in the world should do.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Tue 4 Jan, 2022 06:25 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

What should the world do?

This is an American affair, I doubt the UN will be welcomed in to set up an inquiry.


EVERY COUNTRY ON THIS PLANET SHOULD WORRY ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE UNITED STATES RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE "EVERY COUNTRY ON THIS PLANET" IS IN DANGER BECAUSE OF IT.

EVERY COUNTRY! EVERY PERSON!

IGNORING AN OUT-OF-CONTROL AMERICA IS LIKE IGNORING A MAURAUDING GRIZZLEY BEAR AT AN OUT-DOOR BARBEQUE.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Tue 4 Jan, 2022 06:31 am
@Frank Apisa,
I'm not saying a Trump presidency doesn't concern me, but what do you suggest we non Americans do about it?
snood
 
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Tue 4 Jan, 2022 06:39 am
@izzythepush,
We don’t even know what we can do about it!
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Frank Apisa
 
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Tue 4 Jan, 2022 07:16 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

I'm not saying a Trump presidency doesn't concern me, but what do you suggest we non Americans do about it?


At a very minimum, Izzy, not to suppose this is just an American problem. Hitler was NOT a German problem...he was a problem for the entire world.

The problem of an impending dictatorship by people like Trump and his supporters in a country with the kinds of military power we possess...is NEVER really just our problem.

As Snood just said, we Americans do not even know what we should do...or what we CAN DO.

Stay alert, stay involved...and never, never, never suppose what effects America cannot have serious impact on you in a foreign land.

The filth...the stench...of Trump and his enablers soils, and endangers, everyone.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Tue 4 Jan, 2022 07:37 am
@Frank Apisa,
I have never supposed events in America didn't impact on us, not after our troops died in your illegal war in Iraq.

Not after American missiles bombed Tripoli using one of our bases resulting in the Lockerbie bombings.

We are an occupied nation after all, little more than a vassal state.
Frank Apisa
 
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Tue 4 Jan, 2022 07:41 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

I have never supposed events in America didn't impact on us, not after our troops died in your illegal war in Iraq.

Not after American missiles bombed Tripoli using one of our bases resulting in the Lockerbie bombings.

We are an occupied nation after all, little more than a vassal state.


Sorry, Izzy. I thought we were having a serious conversation.

My bad.
snood
 
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Tue 4 Jan, 2022 07:50 am
@izzythepush,
You did turn it into something confrontational Izzy. We were all talking as if we are on the same side, against the poison of Trump. ??
izzythepush
 
  1  
Tue 4 Jan, 2022 07:51 am
@Frank Apisa,
Are you saying those things didn't happe?

We were not drawn into an illegal war in Iraq and that our bases were used to bomb Tripoli?

Is that what you are saying that those events did not happen?

They did happen and the consequences for us were very serious indeed.
snood
 
  1  
Tue 4 Jan, 2022 07:52 am
@izzythepush,
What is gained by going there, in the context of this conversation?
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snood
 
  1  
Tue 4 Jan, 2022 07:53 am
@izzythepush,
I’ve seen flashes of it from you before. But this is the clearest I’ve seen of your compulsion to turn a conversation into an excuse to bash those damn Americans.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Tue 4 Jan, 2022 08:01 am
@snood,
We are against Trump, but I fail to see what those of us outside of Americacan do about it.

I took offence to Frank's suggestion that I was blasé about the effect a Trump presidency had on the UK. The Bush presidency was disastrous enough.

What is really concerning is the amount of serving and ex-military personnel who participated in the 6th Jan insurgency.

How many far right Trump supporters are now stationed on bases over here just itching to pay us back for once having ruled your country?

I'm scared what those soldiers will do when there is a Biden presidency let alone a Trump one.

No more Harry Dunns.
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izzythepush
 
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Tue 4 Jan, 2022 08:06 am
@snood,
We are an occupied nation. That occupation lead to a illegal war in Iraq, the bombings of Tripoli and the killing of Harry Dunn.

Not to mention being the Soviet's number one target during the Cold war because of your cruise missiles.

Those military bases do nothing but intimidate the civilian population.

They need tobe shut down now.

And Diego Garcia as well, close down the bases and give the placeto Mauritius.
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