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@izzythepush,

Thanks! BTW, where does "Scorned by the Monarchy" come in?

@BillW,

From what I understand the Queen can take away royal titles, hrh, dukedoms etc. This is outside of that. Andrew is the titular head of various regiments, and charities as well as being a prime mover in the British Board of Trade.

To be honest, I think he no longer has a position in the board of trade but he still has the other positions. Those boards, regiments etc. want rid of him, and they can get rid of him regardless of what the Queen has to say.

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@BillW,

I'm not sure.

I have the attitude most British people have towards the Royal Family, I feel the same about them as I feel about the post office.

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@izzythepush,

Interesting! We got our exposure that problem will come about in regards to Matt Gaetz and Bill Clinton, our kind of Monarchy. The fall out may be quite interesting.

OK, what is wrong with the British PO?

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@BillW,

Nothing is wrong with it.

How do you feel about your postal service?

Is it something you get excited about?

How you feel about your post office is how I feel about the Queen.

Flatline, no response.

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https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/02/politics/january-6-poll-violence-against-government/index.html

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34% of Americans say violence against government is sometimes justified, new poll finds

By Devan Cole, CNN
Updated 2:41 PM ET, Sun January 2, 2022

Washington (CNN)Thirty-four percent of Americans think violent action against the government is sometimes justified, according to a new poll from The Washington Post and the University of Maryland released days ahead of the one-year anniversary of the insurrection at the US Capitol.

The new figure "is considerably higher than in past polls by the Post or other major news organizations dating back more than two decades," according to the newspaper. The survey, conducted between December 17 and 19, revealed stark partisan splits on the question: 40% of Republicans and 41% of independents said violence against government is sometimes justified, compared to 23% of Democrats.

In a separate CBS News-YouGov poll released Sunday, 62% of Americans said they expect violence over losing in future presidential elections; 38% said they expect the losing side will concede peacefully. At least a quarter of Americans said "force might be justified," depending on the situation, regarding issues like civil rights, gun policies, election results and labor.

Thursday marks the one-year anniversary of the January 6 attack, during which supporters of then-President Donald Trump stormed the Capitol in an attempt to stop lawmakers from certifying the results of the 2020 presidential election.

Rioters attacked law enforcement officers and destroyed parts of the iconic building, with the violent event leading to the deaths of multiple people the day of the attack or shortly thereafter, while several officers who responded to the Capitol during the attack later died by suicide.

The Post-UMD poll found 60% of Americans feel Trump bears "a great deal" or "good amount" of responsibility for his role in the attack. Self-identified Republicans and Trump supporters in the poll tended to think he bears less responsibility.
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The Post-UMD survey found that 54% of Americans believe rioters who entered the Capitol were "mostly violent," while 19% view them as "mostly peaceful," and another 27% see them as "equally peaceful and violent." Democrats were much more likely to view them as mostly violent (78%) compared to Republicans (26%).

There was more agreement about violence against law enforcement officers that day, with 87% saying they think "some protesters injured police officers" and 10% saying "everyone acted peacefully."
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@izzythepush,

I truly appreciate our PO service. Our conservative brethren and current Post Master General feel it should be a private enterprise making a certain small wealthy % of our population more wealthy at the expense of the greater less wealthy % of the population. The Post Master General has incorporated false problems into the PO to make it look bad, but no one with a real truthful mind is buying it.

Of course, our ultra wealthy are our monarchy - they can do nothing wrong!

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@BillW,

Probably a false analogy, I was forgetting the actions of the Trump appointed postmaster general.

I feel that the post office is useful and has a function. I don't get excited about it.

Every country has a head of state and for a long time I was an armchair republican, meaning that if there were a referendumI would vote in favour of abolishing the monarchy, but I wouldn't march or canvass votes for it. Voting is all I would do.

My opinions have changed in that I am now a reluctant royalist. I'm more concerned about what would replace the monarchy. Tony Blair had a huge majority and as such behaved very presidential. I didn't like that.

I prefer the system we have at present, where the executive is accountable to parliament. If the Tories wanted to they could kick out Johnson and appoint a new prime minister without a general election.

I don't want an executive not accountable to parliament. Neither do I want a non executive president like they have in Ireland. Knowing what we're like we'd probably elect Mr Blobby.

So overall I'd rather stick with what we have although the civilised could be cut along with the amount of Royal Palaces.

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@izzythepush,

I have always liked your way of the President (PM) needing Legislative approval to exist, when lost - must obtain a popular vote to retain seat (similar to Israel). However, over here, I'm not sure we wouldn't be having Presidential elections every other month.

BTW, I wish our PO would go back to being just "useful"!

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@BillW,

If you had our system the person with executive power would be the speaker of the house.

You don't need an election to change them all, it takes it enough of their own party to get sick of them.

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@izzythepush,

The Speaker of the House is 3rd in line to the President.

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@BillW,

All I can say is that we are teetering on the head of a democracy pin right now and it scares me more than I have ever been about our government!

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@BillW,

BillW wrote:

All I can say is that we are teetering on the head of a democracy pin right now and it scares me more than I have ever been about our government!

Allow me a very loud AMEN!

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@Frank Apisa,

Ours isn't much better, the bookie's favourite to replace Johnson is the foreign minister Liz Truss.

She is in the news for overriding civil service advice on the venue for a trade meeting. It was held at an exclusive restaurant owned by a Tory donor at twice the usual cost to the taxpayer.

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The American polity is cracked, and might collapse. Canada must prepare

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@hightor,

How the **** does it make sense right now for Americans to be concerned about how Canada will strategically handle another Trump presidency?

That’s like my next door neighbor asking me to be concerned about his flower garden while my goddamn house is burning to the ground.

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@hightor,

That's a pretty scary article.

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@snood,

Did you even read the article, snood? I don't believe it was specifically addressed to USAmericans. I, for one, actually like to know how these things look from outside our borders. It's good to get someone else's perspective on this approaching train wreck. The article is more insightful than much of what I've seen from domestic sources.

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@hightor,

Hey man, are you concerned that it’s a year, and there is no indication that anyone behind 1/6 will be punished for it?
Are you concerned that for all we know Donald Trump will be running again and could win again?

Yes, I only scanned and didn’t completely read that article. Which has absolutely no effect on my opinion that being concerned right now about what Canada does about another Trump presidency is stupid.

I’ll read the whole thing. Maybe it will make me a more grounded, broad-minded person.

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@snood,

It was written by a Canadian university professor (UofT, if I recall) and it was meant, primarily, for Canadians. Most of the article is about why we should be concerned, everything leading up to now, where the US politics and populace has been and is going, and basically that Canadians/Canada are/is affected by everything that happens in the US. And the author is correct; we (Canada) shouldn't be asleep at the wheel.

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