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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 5 Dec, 2021 09:59 am
Quote:
https://i.imgur.com/arieA00h.jpg

Trump ain't never told no lies.

Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 5 Dec, 2021 10:13 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Quote:
https://i.imgur.com/arieA00h.jpg

Trump ain't never told no lies.




Trump is one of the most disgusting humans currently alive on planet Earth.

The people who continue to support him are each trying to take over that spot, but I doubt any will prevail.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 5 Dec, 2021 11:23 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
Trump is one of the most disgusting humans currently alive on planet Earth.
But the above quote is Trump’s first ever accurate statement on the legitimacy of the 2020 election.


Well, he's accidentally 100% correct here, I suppose, since obviously he didn't notice the double negative. Or doesn't know about it.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 5 Dec, 2021 11:27 am
@Walter Hinteler,
You don't know nuffin'
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 5 Dec, 2021 01:04 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Trump ain't never told no lies.


That's, "Trump ain't never told no lies, nohow."

Two negatives don't make a positive, but like lefts, three do.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 6 Dec, 2021 02:15 am
Trump attacks media and Mark Milley in foul-mouthed Mar-a-Lago speech
Quote:
Insults to press and chairman of joint chiefs of staff recall barbs while Trump was in power

In remarks to diners at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida on Saturday night, Donald Trump called the American media “crooked bastards” and Gen Mark Milley, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, a “******* idiot”.

The meandering, foul-mouthed speech to Turning Point USA, a group for young conservatives, was streamed by Jack Posobiec, a rightwing blogger and provocateur.

The insult to the press recalled barbs while Trump was in power, including calling reporters and editors “fake news” and the “enemy of the people”, attacks many in the media regarded as dangerous, inviting political violence.

“The country is at a very important, dangerous place,” Trump said, amid familiar lies about his defeat in the 2020 election, which he says was the result of electoral fraud.

“We have no press. The press is so corrupt. We don’t have a press. If there is a good story about us, a good story about any of the people that are Republicans, conservatives, they make it a bad story. And if it’s a bad story they make it the worst story in history. It is the most dishonest group of people.”

Trump claimed to have transformed Americans’ views of the press, saying “when I first announced I was running in 2015 they had a 94%-95% approval rating. And right now they have a lower approval rating than Congress.

“I consider that to be a great honor because they are a bunch of very dishonest, crooked bastards.”

The remark met with laughter.

As with most of Trump’s claims, his claim about media approval ratings could be debated.
[...]
Trump regularly complains about Milley, particularly over his portrayal in bestselling books as a key figure in efforts to contain Trump at the end of his time in power.

Trump’s penchant for swearing is well-known, to the extent that his four-year presidency prompted soul-searching among some US media outlets about which words could properly be printed.

The Guardian has long had few such scruples.
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hightor
 
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Reply Mon 6 Dec, 2021 03:30 am
HCR wrote:
Speaking in Athens, Greece, yesterday, Pope Francis warned Americans, “We cannot avoid noting with concern how today, and not only in Europe, we are witnessing a retreat from democracy." He warned against politicians with "an obsessive quest for popularity, in a thirst for visibility, in a flurry of unrealistic promises,” and called for people around the world to turn away from authoritarianism, individualism, and indifference. Instead, they must rededicate themselves to the common good and strengthen democracy.

The pope’s public recognition of the rise of authoritarianism mirrored the increasing awareness here in the U.S. that our democracy is in crisis.

That dawning awareness seems to have been sparked by the December 1 oral arguments about abortion rights before the Supreme Court, when a majority of the current justices made it clear that the constitutional right to abortion many people believed was sacrosanct is likely to be taken away.

“They lied,” the Washington Post’s Paul Waldman wrote about the testimony of the Republican-appointed justices in their confirmation hearings. In those hearings, they indicated that they saw the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision protecting the right to abortion as settled law, no matter what their own personal preferences might be. “They lied to Congress and to the country…. It was all a lie, a scam, a con,” Waldman wrote, “the assurances that they were blank slates committed to ‘originalism’ and ‘textualism,’ that they wouldn’t ‘legislate from the bench,’ that they have no agenda but merely a ‘judicial philosophy.’”

Also in the Washington Post, Dr. Melissa Murray, a New York University law professor who clerked for Justice Sonia Sotomayor, noted that Sotomayor recognized that her colleagues were “embracing a cataclysmic reordering of the reproductive rights landscape.”

Seeing what her colleagues were going to do, Sotomayor turned to “the American people themselves…suggesting that the court need not have the last word on abortion.” She was, Murray said, “alerting the people to the imminent threat to abortion rights in the hopes that, hearing her alarm, we might mobilize. Not with a Jan. 6–style insurrection but with the sort of grass-roots energy that once fueled the civil rights movement and other progressive social causes.” “The court will not save our rights,” Murray wrote, “But maybe we can save them ourselves.”

In fact, the reactionaries in the current-day Republican Party are a minority of the country. As David Atkins points out in the Washington Monthly, Republicans are operating from a position of weakness. In the United States, Democratic counties produce more than 70% of the nation’s gross domestic product (the total market value of goods and services produced). Democratic states fund the Republican-dominated states that complain about “socialism.” Eighty-three percent of Americans now live in cities, which tend to vote Democratic, and young people are overwhelmingly progressive.

The problem is this: “Democrats…need to win every single election from here to prevent the destruction of democracy, while Republicans only need to win one. And the American system is set up so that Republicans will win sooner or later, whether fairly or by cheating.” Atkins urges the American people to “start thinking about and planning for what ‘Break glass in case of emergency’ measures look like—because it’s more likely a matter of when, not if. It not only can happen here; it probably will happen here. Conservatives are guaranteed to make every attempt to turn America into the next Russia or Hungary. It will take coordinated, overlapping solidarity among both regular people and elites across various institutions to stop it.”

Laura Thornton, the director of the Alliance for Securing Democracy of the German Marshall Fund of the United States, lays out what American authoritarianism looks like and shows that it is already here. Focusing on Wisconsin, she deplores the statements of Senator Ron Johnson and Republican lawmakers who are openly demanding control over election management in the state.

“I spent more than two decades living and working overseas to advance democracy and credible elections—giving me plenty of opportunity to see the lengths to which autocrats will go to gain power,” Thornton writes. “Even so, the proposed Wisconsin power grab is shocking in its brazenness. If this occurred in any of the countries where the United States provides aid, it would immediately be called out as a threat to democracy. U.S. diplomats would be writing furious cables, and decision makers would be threatening to cut off the flow of assistance.”

How can we stop the march of authoritarianism? Thornton says that “it is up to us, the people. No party or leader will save us here. No foreign savior will shake us out of our stupor. Americans need to start caring about democracy enough to act on it…. Apathy is how democracies die. I’ve seen it.”

What does minority rule look like? It looks like individual liberty and violence to make others do what those in power want.

Representative Thomas Massie (R-KY) grabbed attention today with a family Christmas picture in which seven people are brandishing guns, ostensibly to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ. His tweeted caption read: “Merry Christmas! Ps. Santa, please bring ammo.” This can only be taken as a message: on Tuesday, a 15-year-old killed four classmates and wounded several others with a gun he received as a Christmas gift.

Senate Republicans on Thursday blocked a move to proceed on a law expanding background checks for gun purchases, a bill the House passed in March. Senator Chuck Grassley (R-IA) said the measure was “hostile toward lawful gun owners and lawful firearms transactions,” and he blocked it.

Last night, in Washington, D.C., about 100 members of the white supremacist group Patriot Front marched to “reclaim America.” Patriot Front was known as Vanguard America until a man affiliated with it killed Heather Heyer at the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, in 2017. Such people want to remake our nation as a white supremacist haven and know that this is their last chance.

But while the white supremacists who joined together in Charlottesville marched openly, with their faces uncovered, those people joining the Patriot Front last night wore masks. This is important. When the Ku Klux Klan terrorized people after the Civil War, they hid their faces with white hoods designed to look like the ghosts of dead Confederate soldiers, knowing that if the federal government knew who they were, it would prosecute them. By the end of the nineteenth century, Euro-Americans did not hide their faces at public lynchings, knowing they represented the will of the moment. That the rioters from Charlottesville now cover their faces suggests that the white supremacy welcome among some circles in 2017 now needs to hide.

With the call of so many observers to defend American democracy from those who would replace it with authoritarianism, many are reaching backward to remember what things were like in the past, when politicians of different parties worked together for the nation. In the Philadelphia Inquirer today, Will Bunch reminded readers that before politicians fetishized guns and individualism, we used to rally around something called “the public good.”

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snood
 
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Reply Mon 6 Dec, 2021 03:39 am
Quote:
The problem is this: “Democrats…need to win every single election from here to prevent the destruction of democracy, while Republicans only need to win one. And the American system is set up so that Republicans will win sooner or later, whether fairly or by cheating.” Atkins urges the American people to “start thinking about and planning for what ‘Break glass in case of emergency’ measures look like—because it’s more likely a matter of when, not if. It not only can happen here; it probably will happen here. Conservatives are guaranteed to make every attempt to turn America into the next Russia or Hungary. It will take coordinated, overlapping solidarity among both regular people and elites across various institutions to stop it.”


If this quote doesn't scare you, you're probably already dead.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Tue 7 Dec, 2021 07:35 am

unlike the last guy, current POTUS is actually doing his job...

Biden readying sanctions against Putin
(cnn)
snood
 
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Reply Tue 7 Dec, 2021 10:41 am
@Region Philbis,
Biden also just withdrew all official US presence from Olympics in Beijing.
snood
 
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Reply Tue 7 Dec, 2021 11:36 am
@snood,
I actually misunderstood what that announcement meant. It’s not as bold a move as I thought it was. Just means no government representatives or diplomats will be there - our athletes will still be there.
Mame
 
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Reply Tue 7 Dec, 2021 11:42 am
@snood,
Actually, I think it is significant and China has responded in their predictable bombastic, insulting way. It just pushes the wedge between the two a little wider. But they (China) have certainly taken note of it. It's a slap in the face and the Chinese are all about face.

Whether others will follow is questionable. My wussy-assed PM likely won't, and the UK don't want to be seen as the USA's 'dog', so... who knows?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 7 Dec, 2021 11:46 am
@Mame,
When this was announced on the official state media there were 1500 comments. Only 8 remain, the others were all deleted.
Mame
 
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Reply Tue 7 Dec, 2021 11:51 am
@izzythepush,
Yeah, I read that, too. They're quite offended, lol.
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Mame
 
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Reply Tue 7 Dec, 2021 12:52 pm
@izzythepush,
Here, read this for a laugh!

BEIJING — As President Biden prepares to host a “summit for democracy” this week, China has counterattacked with an improbable claim: It’s a democracy, too.

No matter that the Communist Party of China rules the country’s 1.4 billion people with no tolerance for opposition parties; that its leader, Xi Jinping, rose to power through an opaque political process without popular elections; that publicly calling for democracy in China is punished harshly, often with long prison sentences.

“There is no fixed model of democracy; it manifests itself in many forms,” the State Council, China’s top governing body, argued in a position paper it released over the weekend titled “China: Democracy That Works.”

It is unlikely that any democratic country will be persuaded by China’s model. By any measure except its own, China is one of the least democratic countries in the world, sitting near the bottom of lists ranking political and personal freedoms.

Even so, the government is banking on its message finding an audience in some countries disillusioned by liberal democracy or by American-led criticism — whether in Latin America, Africa or Asia, including in China itself.

“They want to put on a back foot, put on the defensive, what they refer to as Western democracy,” said Jean-Pierre Cabestan, a political scientist at Hong Kong Baptist University.

China’s paper on democracy was the latest salvo in a weekslong campaign seeking to undercut Mr. Biden’s virtual gathering, which begins on Thursday.

In speeches, articles and videos on state television, officials have extolled what they call Chinese-style democracy. At the same time, Beijing has criticized democracy in the United States in particular as deeply flawed, seeking to undermine the Biden administration’s moral authority as it works to rally the West to counter China.

“Democracy is not an ornament to be used for decoration; it is to be used to solve the problems that the people want to solve,” Mr. Xi said at a gathering of top Communist Party leaders in October, according to Xinhua, the state news agency. (In the same address, he ridiculed the “song and dance” that voters are given during elections, contending that voters have little influence until the next campaign.)

On Sunday, the foreign ministry released another report that criticized American politics for what it described as the corrupting influence of money, the deepening social polarization and the inherent unfairness of the Electoral College. In the same way, officials later sought to play down the White House announcement that no American officials would attend the Winter Olympics in Beijing in February by saying none had been invited anyway.

China’s propaganda offensive has produced some eyebrow-raising claims about the fundamental nature of Communist Party rule and the superiority of its political and social model. It also suggests that Beijing may be insecure about how it is perceived by the world.

“The fact that the regime feels the need to consistently justify its political system in terms of democracy is a powerful acknowledgment of the symbolism and legitimacy that the term holds,” said Sarah Cook, an analyst who covers China for Freedom House, an advocacy group in Washington.

When officials introduced the government’s policy paper on Saturday, they seemed to compete over who could mention “democracy” more often, while muddying the definition of the word.

China’s system “has achieved process democracy and outcome democracy, procedural democracy and substantive democracy, direct democracy and indirect democracy, and the unity of people’s democracy and the will of the country,” said Xu Lin, deputy director of the Communist Party Central Committee’s propaganda department.

The campaign carries echoes of the rivalry between the United States and the Soviet Union, which sparred for decades over the merits of their political systems, said Charles Parton, a China specialist at the Royal United Services Institute, a British research group.

“They are more keen, in a way, on an ideological competition, and that takes you back to the Cold War,” Mr. Parton said, referring to China.

Mr. Biden’s democracy summit, which administration officials have said is not explicitly focused on China, has also faced criticism, in the West as well as from China, in part for whom it invited and whom it left out.

Angola, Iraq and Congo, countries that Freedom House classifies as undemocratic, will participate, while two NATO allies, Turkey and Hungary, will not.

In a move likely to anger Beijing, the White House also invited two officials from Taiwan, the island democracy China claims as its own; and Nathan Law, a former legislator in the semiautonomous territory of Hong Kong who sought asylum in Britain after China’s crackdown.

At the heart of Beijing’s defense of its political system are several core arguments, some more plausible than others.

Officials cite the elections that are held in townships or neighborhoods to select representatives to the lowest of five levels of legislatures. Those votes, however, are highly choreographed, and any potential candidates who disagree with the Communist Party face harassment or worse.

The legislatures then each choose delegates for the next level, up to the National People’s Congress, a parliamentary body with nearly 3,000 members that meets each spring to rubber-stamp decisions made behind closed doors by the party leadership.

When Mr. Xi pushed through a constitutional amendment removing term limits on the presidency — effectively allowing him to rule indefinitely — the vote, by secret ballot, was 2,958 to 2.

China has also accused the United States of imposing Western values on other cultures, an argument that might resonate in regions where the two powers are competing for influence.

China’s ambassador to the United States, Qin Gang, recently joined his Russian counterpart, Anatoly Antonov, to denounce Mr. Biden’s summit as hypocritical and hegemonic. Writing in The National Interest, the conservative magazine, they alluded to support for democratic movements in authoritarian countries that became known as “color revolutions.”

“No country has the right to judge the world’s vast and varied political landscape by a single yardstick,” they wrote.

Pointing to the ways that American and other Western societies have been torn by political, social and racial divisions and hobbled by the coronavirus pandemic, China is also arguing that its form of governance has been more effective in creating prosperity and stability.

As officials often note, China has achieved more than four decades of rapid economic growth. More recently, it has contained the coronavirus outbreak that began in Wuhan, with fewer deaths throughout the pandemic than some countries have had in a single day.

Skeptics reject the argument that such successes make China a democracy.

They cite surveys like the one done by the University of Würzburg in Germany, which ranks countries based on variables like independence of the judiciary, freedom of the press and integrity of elections. The most recent put China near the bottom among 176 countries. Only Saudi Arabia, Yemen, North Korea and Eritrea rank lower. Denmark is first; the United States 36th.

In China, the Communist Party controls the courts and heavily censors the media. It has suppressed Tibetan culture and language, restricted religious freedom and carried out a vast detention campaign in Xinjiang.

What’s more, China’s vigorous defense of its system in recent months has done nothing to moderate its prosecution of dissent.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/07/world/asia/china-biden-democracy-summit.html

Ha! Fake news, alternate facts, etc., etc., etc.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 7 Dec, 2021 01:20 pm
@Mame,
The Chinese and Mongol Emperors were a pretty unflinching and autocratic lot. They is one story about an emperor who would tell an obvious lie, calling a cat a dog or something like that, and execute anyone who disagreed.

This is a culture that has long accepted the need to believe lies in order to stay alive long before Communism arrived.

It's like the bit in 1984 where Winston Smith says that before fighting East Asia they were fighting Eurasia. He is corrected and told they were never fighting Eurasia they were always fighting East Asia.
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Builder
 
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Reply Tue 7 Dec, 2021 02:39 pm
@Region Philbis,
Quote:
unlike the last guy, current POTUS is actually doing his job


You mean, fomenting war, and appeasing the military industrial complex?

Name a conflict that began under your former president.

The world breathed a heavy sigh of relief when warmonger Clinton got her fat incontinent arse handed to her.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 7 Dec, 2021 04:47 pm
Thank-you to Nance Greggs:

There, I fixed it.
With all of the negative news stories about Biden and the Democrats, I'm thinking maybe you MSM types are just out of ideas as to how to fill your broadcast time.

So let me help you out. If you're looking for something to run your mouths about 24/7, here are some news stories you might want to cover:

Joe Biden is not personally enriching himself on the taxpayers' dime.

Joe Biden is not spending 25% of his time in office on the golf course.

Joe Biden is not appointing incompetent cronies to positions of power.

Joe Biden is not getting his Covid information from 'doctors' who think the vaccine contains alien DNA.

Joe Biden is not taking political advice from idiots like Ivanka and Jared, nor from traitors like Mike Flynn, or convicted criminals like Steve Bannon.

Joe Biden is not under investigation for possible tax evasion, bank fraud, or interfering with the election process.

The Democrats are not trying to pass legislation that curtails people's right to vote.

The Democrats are trying to lower the cost of prescription drugs, and assist middle-class citizens with increased tax breaks.

The Democrats are focused on better and more affordable education, rebuilding our infrastructure, and raising the quality of life for all Americans.


Well, maybe you don't want to just talk about Biden & the Dems, so here's a headline you can really sink your fangs into:

Trump incited the January 6th insurrection in an attempt to overthrow our democracy, an event organized and funded by his Republican ass-kissing enablers, and he's still the leader of a party full of dumbass whack-jobs who continue to spew divisive conspiracy bullshit while encouraging their constituents to take up arms against their fellow citizens and resort to violence - actions which are, of course, greatly enabled by their stance on zero gun control.

So if you're truly at a loss as to what to discuss on your so-called "newscasts", you might want to present the aforementioned facts, and follow up with the fact that Trump's closest advisors are either (a) refusing to respond to the subpoenas issued by the January 6 Select Committee, or are (b) pleading the 5th on the grounds of self-incrimination.

You might want to delve into the fact that people who have nothing to hide don't refuse to testify, nor do people innocent of any wrongdoing invoke their right not to incriminate themselves.

I am not a 'journalist' - nor, like some of you, do I pretend to be one on TV. But it seems to me that the news story of the century is blatantly obvious - and why you're not on top of it 24/7 is beyond anyone's guess.

Nothin' says "trust us" like a mainstream media that thinks Biden's approval ratings are more important than a once-pResident of the United States having orchestrated the downfall of the government he swore to protect and serve.

Well done, MSM. Trump once declared you "the fake news". Thanks for proving that he wasn't that far off the mark.
snood
 
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Reply Tue 7 Dec, 2021 04:56 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Here's a few more tidbits they could focus on:
https://i.imgur.com/OrPV4f6.jpg
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 7 Dec, 2021 05:46 pm
@snood,
1. And the committee has already to say they'll move to indict Meadows the moment he clams up.

2. Bannon didn't get a delay, he got a court date.

3. One public hearing and dozens of private hearings. As the Committee get its evidence, and starts putting its case together, there will be plenty of public hearings and releases.

4. The "leaders" of any conspiracy are usually not arrested until there've been enough underlings caught up in the process first. Investigations go bottom up, not top down.

5. They generally don't form the committee until there is enough evidence and pressure to form one.


I don't know where as a nation we got the impression that justice is instant. It seems unfair when 45 tore the stuffing out of our underpinnings with no howdy do. But that's the nature evil, it uses opportunity. Justice results from process. Those assholes have the same access to the process we do and with the same protections. It takes time. When was Aubury shot and murdered, and it's just got out of the jury the jury and everything the murderers did was on tape. There are at least three grand juries looking at 45 alone, two in New York and one in Georgia. He's going to go down, just not as fast as we'd like.
 

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