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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 15 Oct, 2021 04:11 am
@BillW,
BillW wrote:

This just in, Andrew McCabe has won his court case and everything theRump did to him has been reversed! To remind people, he was fired by the asshole with only a few days left before his retirement went into effect. He lost his retirement pay plus a lot of other things.

Everything has been restored to Andrew! HURRAY HURRAY HURRAY!!!!!!! Dipshit looses another!


I was delighted to read that in the newspaper this morning.
blatham
 
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Reply Fri 15 Oct, 2021 07:18 am
@Frank Apisa,
Trump's characterological flaws are many and not the least of these is his constant drive to wreak vengeance on those who oppose him or who stand in his way. Here are the Mayo Clinics indicators of the sociopath...
Quote:
Antisocial personality disorder signs and symptoms may include:

Disregard for right and wrong
Persistent lying or deceit to exploit others
Being callous, cynical and disrespectful of others
Using charm or wit to manipulate others for personal gain or personal pleasure
Arrogance, a sense of superiority and being extremely opinionated
Recurring problems with the law, including criminal behavior
Repeatedly violating the rights of others through intimidation and dishonesty
Impulsiveness or failure to plan ahead
Hostility, significant irritability, agitation, aggression or violence
Lack of empathy for others and lack of remorse about harming others
Unnecessary risk-taking or dangerous behavior with no regard for the safety of self or others
Poor or abusive relationships
Failure to consider the negative consequences of behavior or learn from them
Being consistently irresponsible and repeatedly failing to fulfill work or financial obligations
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Fri 15 Oct, 2021 08:57 am
@blatham,
Frighteningly accurate description of trump.
blatham
 
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Reply Fri 15 Oct, 2021 09:08 am
@MontereyJack,
Yes, it is. It is undeniable and this has been blatantly evident for a long while. What frightens me more than Trump though is that the GOP has concluded that having a sociopath as the leader of the party is not merely acceptable but the proper instrument to the achievement of their goals.
Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Reply Fri 15 Oct, 2021 09:18 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Yes, it is. It is undeniable and this has been blatantly evident for a long while. What frightens me more than Trump though is that the GOP has concluded that having a sociopath as the leader of the party is not merely acceptable but the proper instrument to the achievement of their goals.


That list describes Trump to a T.

But that does not bother me anywhere near as much as knowing that intelligent people like George are willing to let Trump, or anyone like him, slide.

That is unfathomable to me.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Fri 15 Oct, 2021 11:19 am
@blatham,
Interesting list from the Mayo Clinic. 14 items of which about 1/3rd would apply at various times to almost everyone I have ever known... At least 2/3rds clearly apply to 'ole Joe Biden, who, throughout a long Senate Career distinguished himself as a lightweight without enduring convictions who would follow every political breeze if he found it to his advantage, exhibited a remarkable disregard for truth in repeatedly lying about his performance in College and repeated acts of foolish and easily detected plagiarism in his political rhetoric. Meanwhile he has and continues to cynically enrich himself , his brother and wayward son by blatant abuse of his political power and influence. In office he has revealed himself to be impulsive, self-absorbed, lacking in good judgement, irritable, intolerant and given to lying when faced with his failures.

A little reflection on world history rather strongly suggests that political leaders as a class everywhere and always have been more self-absorbed and egotistical than "normal" people. From Alexander of Macedonia to Caesar, Augustus, to the early monarchs of European countries from England to Spain and Russia, the Various Mongol Khans, Napoleon, Alexander I, Napoleon III, Lenin, Woodrow Wilson, Clemenceau, Churchill, Franklin Roosevelt, Stalin and many others the pattern is fairly clear, Indeed the avid pursuit of political power often appears to require it.

History and the wise tend to judge Political leaders based on what they do with their power and influence, and not on their agreeability as persons. Unusual merit and virtue in such historical figures often does involve a rare degree of empathy and humility. Abraham Lincoln is an example ( also, a personal favorite, the Habsburg Emperor Charles V who ruled most of Central Europe, Italy and Spain, and then retired to a monastery at age 55). Of language he famously wrote, "I speak Italian to women, French to men , Spanish to the Clergy, and German is for my horse").

The special hatred that animates you and others for Trump, appears … to me, at least, to indicate as much about you as him.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Fri 15 Oct, 2021 01:14 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

More of Trump was the ONLY alternative to Joe Biden...so it has to be done.
Anyone who wanted more of Trump...or who wants to steer the conversation away from discussing what "more of Trump" would have meant (would mean) to our Republic, is being civically negligent.

YOU are being civically negligent right now, George...something that surprises me greatly. Wake the hell up...get back to being the patriot you once were.

I find it odd that so many folks in this conversation assume I earnestly want only Trump to replace the somewhat demented, irritable, corrupt, and inclined to lies when confronted with his failures, character who currently occupies the White House. Do you all believe that disappointment with and opposition to the Biden Administration necessarily requires support for Trump? More likely it seems to me that in the excessively polarized political world we inhabit, and the odd intensity of hostility to Trump that is so pervasive here is what leads folks to such faulty conclusions.

I strongly oppose the current legislative agenda of the Democrat party (now under the control of Bernie Sanders), and find the now slightly senile lifelong lightweight and corrupt, Joe Biden in the role of Chief Executive and as political leader for the country a somewhat unsettling situation. The next Presidential election is three years away - I'll make my choice then. A better alternative than Trump may arise. In the interim I only want the Democrats out of leadership roles in our Congress, and to avoid the excessive growth of government and restrictions to my liberty and that of us all that contemporary authoritarian socialists within the Democrat party are trying so hard to impose on us.

I find that to be extraordinarily "civic responsible". I am and remain loyal to the best traditions of our country, particularly including the preference for individual liberty and limited government that attended its creation and growth. Your enthusiasm for the simple-minded and demonstrably ineffective socialist "remedies" that brought so much poverty, repression, tyranny and suffering to the late, unlamented 20th century is what astounds me.

Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Reply Fri 15 Oct, 2021 01:42 pm
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:


Frank Apisa wrote:

More of Trump was the ONLY alternative to Joe Biden...so it has to be done.
Anyone who wanted more of Trump...or who wants to steer the conversation away from discussing what "more of Trump" would have meant (would mean) to our Republic, is being civically negligent.

YOU are being civically negligent right now, George...something that surprises me greatly. Wake the hell up...get back to being the patriot you once were.

I find it odd that so many folks in this conversation assume I earnestly want only Trump to replace the somewhat demented, irritable, corrupt, and inclined to lies when confronted with his failures, character who currently occupies the White House. Do you all believe that disappointment with and opposition to the Biden Administration necessarily requires support for Trump? More likely it seems to me that in the excessively polarized political world we inhabit, and the odd intensity of hostility to Trump that is so pervasive here is what leads folks to such faulty conclusions.

I strongly oppose the current legislative agenda of the Democrat party (now under the control of Bernie Sanders), and find the now slightly senile lifelong lightweight and corrupt, Joe Biden in the role of Chief Executive and as political leader for the country a somewhat unsettling situation. The next Presidential election is three years away - I'll make my choice then. A better alternative than Trump may arise. In the interim I only want the Democrats out of leadership roles in our Congress, and to avoid the excessive growth of government and restrictions to my liberty and that of us all that contemporary authoritarian socialists within the Democrat party are trying so hard to impose on us.

I find that to be extraordinarily "civic responsible". I am and remain loyal to the best traditions of our country, particularly including the preference for individual liberty and limited government that attended its creation and growth. Your enthusiasm for the simple-minded and demonstrably ineffective socialist "remedies" that brought so much poverty, repression, tyranny and suffering to the late, unlamented 20th century is what astounds me.


You are kidding yourself, George. But, you have the "I hate liberalism" agenda pushing your buttons...and not much you can do to deal with that.

Yeah, you have a preference for individual liberty and limited government...UNLESS the individual liberty is for someone else and the limits on government allows people you do not like to get stuff you want them not to get.

I am a capitalist...apparently one of the few here who has actually worked on Wall Street, but can easily see that borrowing some ideas from socialism...and introducing those ideas into our lives, will make our country much stronger...and more responsible.

You people on the right just want to hate socialism and socialistic ideas...so continue to hate them. No skin off anyone else's nose.

But I tell you here and now...you WILL surrender more of your individual freedom...and it will be a positive thing for humanity and our nation. That is how civilization prospers. Asking for more individual freedom will always eventually result in chaos and anarchy.

And for any of you to suppose that supporting the agenda of today's American right will result in you having more personal freedom and less government control...is like saying that supporting Hitler and his Nazi party resulted in Germans having more personal freedom and less control by government.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Fri 15 Oct, 2021 02:53 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

But I tell you here and now...you WILL surrender more of your individual freedom...and it will be a positive thing for humanity and our nation. That is how civilization prospers. Asking for more individual freedom will always eventually result in chaos and anarchy.

A rather breathtaking admission.

Can you provide us all with a few historical examples of how increased government control of economies and social structures yielded significant increases in prosperity and the quality of "civilization". I don't think you can do so You can certainly find examples of increased order and refined structures of governance and control, however they all ended up in poverty, the suppression of human freedom and tyranny. No individual liberty.

Hitler, by the way headed the German "National SOCIALIST Party'. His regime controlled the allocation of economic resources, suppressed (cancelled. in contemporary vernacular) opposition of any kind and quickly degenerated to the extermination and enslaving of all who appeared to threaten the regime. Lots of good order and refined social planning however.
blatham
 
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Reply Fri 15 Oct, 2021 03:51 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
The special hatred that animates you and others for Trump, appears … to me, at least, to indicate as much about you as him.
I suppose you could say that. Perhaps later I could share my opinions of Stalin. That will say something about me. Of course, where and when fans of the fellow justify and excuse him, that says something about them as well, doesn't it?
BillW
 
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Reply Fri 15 Oct, 2021 07:11 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

blatham wrote:

Yes, it is. It is undeniable and this has been blatantly evident for a long while. What frightens me more than Trump though is that the GOP has concluded that having a sociopath as the leader of the party is not merely acceptable but the proper instrument to the achievement of their goals.


That list describes Trump to a T.

But that does not bother me anywhere near as much as knowing that intelligent people like George are willing to let Trump, or anyone like him, slide.

That is unfathomable to me.

I believe it is official now that the Republican Party is a Sociopathic Party!
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 15 Oct, 2021 07:30 pm
@BillW,

been that way since all that Tea Party nonsense started...
georgeob1
 
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Reply Fri 15 Oct, 2021 08:15 pm
@blatham,
Trump and Stalin are not at all equivalent. No Gulag; no extermination of 4M Ukrainians or many more millions of Russian opponents, Latvians and and Lithuanians.

That strange comment is somewhat revealing itself .
BillW
 
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Reply Fri 15 Oct, 2021 10:37 pm
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:

Trump and Stalin are not at all equivalent. No Gulag; no extermination of 4M Ukrainians or many more millions of Russian opponents, Latvians and and Lithuanians.

That strange comment is somewhat revealing itself .

Only because we are still protected by a Democracy, which theRump has tried to bring down so he can install Gulags and exterminate who he wishes. Appears many other Repukes are in favor of a like same government too! Are you? That strange comment is somewhat revealing itself . theRump and Stalin are very much alike, with direct equivalency with puti-putt.
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BillW
 
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Reply Fri 15 Oct, 2021 11:27 pm
A tribute to theRump:

82 Stupid Things From The Trump Era You Probably Forgot About

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/dumb-trump-moments

This the bidding of georgeo. Mind you, there are many, many more; but, one has only so much time! Plus we can only do so much praise of Sir dumbass!
Builder
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2021 01:01 am
@BillW,
Staying on topic now, BillW.







MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2021 01:15 am
@Builder,
far better occasional fluffs and rational policies than four years of nonstop lies, destructive policies and destruction of anyone who tries to talk sense to corrupt power.
Builder
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2021 03:19 am
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
far better occasional fluff


A geriatric paedophile who needs to be reminded of the names of his daily handlers, is not presidential material at all.

Creepy Joe is the laughing stock of the planet, dude.

Get used to being laughed at.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2021 03:20 am
@georgeob1,
Quote:
Trump and Stalin are not at all equivalent.
True. Not equivalent. Nor can we say that Stalin and Jeffrey Dahmer are equivalent. But all three match the clinical description of the sociopath.

Recall the times you've insisted that Trump is unusual in that he is plain-spoken and thus honest in a manner unlike most political figures. It's a mark in his favor, you've said. As a Jeffrey Dahmer fan boy said, "Sure, it's maybe a pity about that black boy. But I've heard about the video he made when he killed the kid and I have to say that Mr. Dahmer was honest throughout. He said, 'Do you know what I'm going to do to you? I'm going to use this DeWalt drill with a 3/8" auger bit and bore a hole through your cranium. Then I'm going to pour in some battery acid and watch what happens. Then I'm going to kill you. And then I'm going to eat you.' So aside from all else, we have to respect that he told it like it is."

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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 16 Oct, 2021 03:24 am
All this proves is that if you're stupid enough to believe David Icke is the son of God you're stupid enough to think Trump was a better president than Biden.

And Trump still retains the support of war criminals.
 

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