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Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

 
 
snood
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2021 05:01 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

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I’m thinking no one questions the veracity because of the “legendary journalist“ status.

That's part of it. But fleshing out the outlines of private conversations has become an accepted journalistic technique. If the participants really object to the characterizations of their remarks they usually let it be known.


How do you “flesh out the details” of a conversation no one witnessed, if you didn’t interview one of the participants?
hightor
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2021 05:41 am
@snood,
I'm not familiar with the particular methods the two reporters used to compile the material for their book. I'd assume that they must have been given some details of the conversation by someone — if the whole thing is fictional then, yes, they should say so, but if they have the vaguest outline of what happened they'll turn it into a dialog. I'm not saying I approve of this technique, I'm just saying it's become accepted. It's more readable and probably sells more books than just reporting the words of "an unnamed individual familiar with one or more parties involved in the discussion".
snood
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2021 06:20 am
@hightor,
It’s “become accepted”, but it seems shady as hell to me.

Of everything you say, one thing that I think might make sense is that the persons being reported on could protest - if what they said wasn’t being represented correctly.

But consider the position they’re in. If they simply make a statement saying that they didn’t say those things or the conversation didn’t happen, they run the risk of giving even more air and light to the book being hawked, and inviting more press with more questions.

After that, their only recourse would be filing suit against the “legendary” author and megabucks publisher. How many people would or could do that?

I can easily imagine a scenario where they see the “blockbuster revelations” about conversations they never had, weigh out in their heads that no real harm is being done to reputation or bottom line, and just crack on. The genius “investigative reporters” make their bucks, the people get a juicy story, and God is in his heaven.

And if pressed, all Woodward or whoever has to say is “a professional journalist never reveals his sources”.

I’m sorry, I know I’ve gone on about this. But the amount of fawning and pearl clutching that’s done every time one of these “inside information never before heard” tomes surfaces just sticks in my craw.

I’d like for those highfalutin authors to be just as responsible as you or I, when we’re asked to back up our bullshit. They’re not even asked.



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hightor
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2021 10:48 am
Bitcoin is Going to Suffer a Vicious & Painful Death
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2021 12:36 pm
New Hampshire lawmaker switches parties, joining Democrats because of GOP views on vaccines, masks
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A New Hampshire state representative “reluctantly” switched his party affiliation to Democratic on Tuesday, citing state Republicans’ opposition to masks and coronavirus vaccines.

Rep. William Marsh, a former Republican, said party extremists are edging out moderates like him, and that he had planned to quietly retire but felt his hand was forced by what he called Republicans’ refusal to take reasonable health precautions.

“Politics, I'm afraid, is a team sport,” he told The Washington Post. “You’ve got to work with other people, and if nobody's interested in what you have to say, you might as well go home.”
[...]
Marsh, an ophthalmologist who has served as his town’s health officer for 20 years, said his tipping point was when New Hampshire House Republicans organized a rally Tuesday opposing President Biden’s new vaccine mandates for federal and private sector workers. Marsh has repeatedly identified public health as his top legislative priority.

“It’s not in the interest of the public to allow covid to spread in New Hampshire as it has in Florida,” Marsh said. “I’m a doctor first, so I stood up for my patients and said, ‘I’m done with this.’ And I left.”

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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2021 01:43 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

New Hampshire lawmaker switches parties, joining Democrats because of GOP views on vaccines, masks
Quote:
A New Hampshire state representative “reluctantly” switched his party affiliation to Democratic on Tuesday, citing state Republicans’ opposition to masks and coronavirus vaccines.

Rep. William Marsh, a former Republican, said party extremists are edging out moderates like him, and that he had planned to quietly retire but felt his hand was forced by what he called Republicans’ refusal to take reasonable health precautions.

“Politics, I'm afraid, is a team sport,” he told The Washington Post. “You’ve got to work with other people, and if nobody's interested in what you have to say, you might as well go home.”
[...]
Marsh, an ophthalmologist who has served as his town’s health officer for 20 years, said his tipping point was when New Hampshire House Republicans organized a rally Tuesday opposing President Biden’s new vaccine mandates for federal and private sector workers. Marsh has repeatedly identified public health as his top legislative priority.

“It’s not in the interest of the public to allow covid to spread in New Hampshire as it has in Florida,” Marsh said. “I’m a doctor first, so I stood up for my patients and said, ‘I’m done with this.’ And I left.”

... ... ...



Good for him!!!
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goldberg
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2021 09:35 pm
@Builder,
I opine that Biden doesn't know what he is doing. America has other far-left politicians rigging the system behind the scenes while apportioning blame. That's why America's clout is on the wane worldwide. Why? Because the New Left's values are odds with European values; European nations wince at Russia and Putin for the same reason.
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goldberg
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2021 09:36 pm
Woodward uses his books to find favor with far-Left liberals. He is not a respectable journalist anymore; you could call him a fink.
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goldberg
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2021 09:41 pm
The next mid-term elections will be a touchstone for America . It's still not too late to rectify all the mistakes.
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goldberg
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2021 09:45 pm
Ilhan Omar slams judge for blocking ballot measure to scrap Minneapolis Police Department
Omar told constituents in Minneapolis she's 'pretty upset about it'

"Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., railed against a judge’s decision to block a Minneapolis ballot measure that would replace the city's police department with a new department of public safety.

During an in-person town hall meeting Tuesday evening in Minneapolis, Omar blamed big money for thwarting a progressive measure that she argued would have given the city "flexibility" on how to better police the city.

"The leaders who are opposed to progress in this city are not nameless or faceless," she said. "Using your network to obstruct the kind of progress so many people in this city want and were looking forward to is not something that should go unnoticed."



"This ballot measure should be on the ballot," she said. "As you can tell, I’m pretty upset about it."

"We have people pouring in so much money to make us enslaved to a charter that the majority of us [oppose]," she continued. "This is the opposite of what democracy should produce. The people had a vision for what they wanted, and there's a judge, there's a mayor, there is a police chief, and their monied friends who are telling us we can't have a city that is flexible to our needs and to our demands. How else are we supposed to make progress if we can't do that?"

Omar's comments came after Hennepin County District Judge Jamie Anderson on Tuesday struck down Question 2 on the Minneapolis ballot for the Nov. 2 election, saying the wording was "unreasonable and misleading."

The question was to ask voters whether they wanted the city’s charter to be amended to replace the Minneapolis Police Department with a Department of Public Safety, "which could include licensed peace officers (police officers) if necessary, with administrative authority to be consistent with other city departments to fulfill its responsibilities for public safety."

Omar argued in an Aug. 31 op-ed for the Star Tribune that the measure was a necessary step in ending police brutality and making communities safer.

"The truth is the current system hasn't been serving our city for a long time," she wrote. "I have long said we need a public safety system that is actually rooted in people's basic human needs."

Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison also endorsed the measure last month, saying Minneapolis residents are eager for police reform and "accountability" after the murder of George Floyd in the same city last year.



"Fundamentally, communities across [Minneapolis] need & want the possibility for reform & accountability, which the current Charter blocks by locking us into an outdated model for law enforcement and safety. They want to end the cycle of inaction," Ellison tweeted Aug. 31.

"This year the residents of [Minneapolis] have asked for and can take that first step of action on the ballot. As a resident of [Minneapolis] where George Floyd’s murder sparked a national call for real reform, I will vote Yes for greater public safety & more human rights for all. "
goldberg
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2021 09:48 pm
Ilhan Omar is another far-Left dunderhead . She's Muslim.
goldberg
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2021 10:06 pm
@goldberg,
This article is from Fox News.
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Thu 16 Sep, 2021 04:39 am
@goldberg,

so in other words, it's a total piece of crap that no intelligent person would waste their time reading...
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 16 Sep, 2021 04:40 am
@Region Philbis,
As is everything they post.
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snood
 
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Reply Thu 16 Sep, 2021 05:10 am
@goldberg,
goldberg wrote:

Ilhan Omar is another far-Left dunderhead . She's Muslim.


She’s Muslim. And?
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Thu 16 Sep, 2021 07:18 am
White House praises Fox for its new Covid policy, encourages network to 'convey to their audience' why it's effective

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Fox is earning some rare praise from the White House after essentially admitting on Tuesday that it will follow the protocols pushed by the Biden administration to limit the spread of the coronavirus. In a memo I obtained, Fox Corp. human resources chief Kevin Lord effectively communicated to employees that they all face a choice: Get vaccinated or face a daily Covid-19 test.
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In effect, Fox has adopted a more stringent version of the vaccine and testing mandate President Biden announced last week — the mandate that the company's loudest voices have trashed and deemed to be nonsensical and "authoritarian." While Biden pushed a vaccination or weekly testing requirement, Fox is saying it will implement a vaccination or daily testing requirement for unvaccinated staff.


https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/14/media/white-house-fox-covid-policy-reliable-sources/index.html

That is one way of undermining Fox News talking heads' attempts to discredit vaccines and mask mandates.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 16 Sep, 2021 07:22 am
@snood,
He’s a bigot.
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Thu 16 Sep, 2021 07:37 am
@Rebelofnj,
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White House praises Fox for its new Covid policy
#BackhandedCompliment
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snood
 
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Reply Thu 16 Sep, 2021 08:35 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

He’s a bigot.


Yeah, obviously. It’s funny they never will just admit it.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 16 Sep, 2021 08:42 am
@snood,
Of course not, Viz has a comic strip called The Male Online which is about a fictionalised Daily Mail Reading Brexit supporting far right git.

In the most recent strip he’s waxing lyrical over a volume on handguns of the Wehrmarkt , so much for Land Of Bloody Hope and Glory.
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