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@oralloy,

True ameriCans are ashamed of you.

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@MontereyJack,

No they aren't. I'm not the one who just betrayed our ally and sold them out to the terrorists. That's all you.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

Still just odorous bullshit.

No BS. Your betrayal of Afghanistan makes it quite clear what horrible people progressives are.

This is your betrayal of South Vietnam all over again.

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@oralloy,

why did Trump speak for a full pullout (but never knw how?)
We all know thi was th right thing to do.
GOP just wants to hide its own facts and raise an issue because the GOP conservatives and nazis look like lap dogs.

Theyre looking for a Benghazi to wave around like a Smithfield ham

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@farmerman,

Don't forget that he completely cut the Afghan government out of the negotiations and, as the Taliban demanded, released 5000 prisoners! He was desperate to get out. If he had a rational plan for withdrawal he never forwarded it to the new administration.

The "blame game" is tiresome and is never productive. If there's any fault it was in decisions made twenty years ago.

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@hightor,

Progressives never want to face condemnation when they commit atrocities.

If you think being condemned for your atrocities is tiresome, then stop committing atrocities.

Traitor Joe decided to go ahead with this betrayal, and he made that decision this year. This has nothing whatsoever to do with 20 years ago.

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@farmerman,

farmerman wrote:

why did Trump speak for a full pullout (but never knw how?)

Who knows? He has had many bad ideas. He also thought it was a good idea to betray the Kurds.

farmerman wrote:

We all know thi was th right thing to do.

Treason and betrayal may be the progressive way of doing things, but selling out our allies is most certainly NOT the right thing to do.

farmerman wrote:

GOP just wants to hide its own facts and raise an issue because the GOP conservatives and nazis look like lap dogs.
Theyre looking for a Benghazi to wave around like a Smithfield ham

Wrong. Progressives are bad people and they suck. And this betrayal proves it.

Oh, and Godwin's Law. I was already winning, but now I win by default.

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@oralloy,

You have no capacity to demonstrate that you understand military policy in a useless aventure. The Russians learned their lesson with our help. Then we abandoned the Muj and we became a target. All in all weve created our own piss pot. I just think its no fuckin place to have our kids die for no reason. Weve gotten as much justice as we can expect for 9/11. The country of AFghanitan needs to grow up and run itself and be a decent steward of its own treasure. The USGS reports stated that AFghanistan has maybe the worlds second lrgest reserves of LITHIUM salts and Li silicates (Spodumene and Lepidolite)

They wont gt good management from us, we dont really give a **** (Im being brutally honest) . You watch, th Chinese with their "belt and suspenders" programs , will bcome the manager of AFghani treasures (All for a fee).
We handed Afghanistan off long time ago. Biden knows that and hes living his promise I happen to agree .
Its about resources not"nation building"

LOOK AT VIETNAM, tell me how badly that worked out for us.

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@farmerman,

farmerman wrote:

You have no capacity to demonstrate that you understand military policy in a useless aventure.

Only progressives believe that democracy and human rights are useless.

farmerman wrote:

I just think its no fuckin place to have our kids die for no reason.

You are the one who doesn't understand military policy. Our kids were not dying there. The US and our NATO allies were suffering very few casualties from training the Afghani Army.

farmerman wrote:

They wont gt good management from us, we dont really give a **** (Im being brutally honest).

Afghanistan had democracy and human rights until you betrayed them to the terrorists.

farmerman wrote:

We handed Afghanistan off long time ago.

Wrong. We only abandoned them about a month ago.

farmerman wrote:

Its about resources not"nation building"

Wrong. It was about democracy and human rights.

farmerman wrote:

LOOK AT VIETNAM, tell me how badly that worked out for us.

South Vietnam was working just fine until you betrayed them like you just betrayed Afghanistan.

History will never forgive you for either betrayal.

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Anyone else notice how the media release of the "Return of the Taliban" shows a group of very well-dressed older men, in perfectly laundered and ironed attire, glowing complexions (makeup, maybe?) and studio lighting, sitting in comfy chairs indoors?

I mean, we can't really "operate" without a boogey man in the background, and Al Qaeda seem to have had their time in the limelight, right?

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Judge Refers ‘Kraken’ Lawyers For Potential ‘Disbarment’ In Scathing Opinion Over Big Lie

Here

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@oralloy,

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Progressives never want to face condemnation when they commit atrocities.

Blah, blah, blah...I don't give a damn what you say. Even Builder handed you your ass on a platter. Your total irrelevance is laughable. This thread is filled with examples of your unceasing denial of reality. The only atrocity being committed is your assault on reason and truth.

The USA doesn't command absolute power and cannot mold the world to its liking. It's too bad this lesson wasn't learned years ago — it would have saved countless lives and trillions of dollars that could have been spent constructively instead of being shoveled into numerous rat holes, solely for the sake of appearances. What we see in Afghanistan today is the result of monumental hubris and stupidity, not cowardice or betrayal.

Trying to score political points off the inevitable result of hasty actions made twenty years ago solely for the purposes of upholding the mythology of USAmerican exceptionalism is disgusting and contemptible – not that I'd expect anything different from you or the MAGAtards.

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@hightor,

hightor wrote:

Blah, blah, blah...I don't give a damn what you say.

Evil people never care about the views of good people.

hightor wrote:

Even Builder handed you your ass on a platter.

Liar. All he did was make an untrue claim that I am wrong, when in fact he is the one who is wrong.

That said, why do you say "even" Builder, as if he was considered less capable?

He is more capable than any of the progressives here.

hightor wrote:

Your total irrelevance is laughable.

You evil people get kind of nasty when we good people oppose you.

Ultimately we are all of us irrelevant. But at least I can honestly say that I'm a good person who always does the right thing.

hightor wrote:

This thread is filled with examples of your unceasing denial of reality.

Liar. You cannot provide a single example of this.

hightor wrote:

The only atrocity being committed is your assault on reason and truth.

Liar. You cannot provide any examples of me assaulting either reason or truth.

And wrong. Your betrayal of Afghanistan is very much an atrocity.

hightor wrote:

The USA doesn't command absolute power

Irrelevant.

hightor wrote:

and cannot mold the world to its liking.

Wrong. The only thing preventing us from molding the world into a better place is the betrayal of traitors like you.

hightor wrote:

It's too bad this lesson wasn't learned years ago -- it would have saved countless lives

Wrong again. Our training of the Afghani Army was not costing the US or our NATO allies very many lives at all.

hightor wrote:

and trillions of dollars that could have been spent constructively instead of being shoveled into numerous rat holes, solely for the sake of appearances.

Not solely for appearance. It was being spent in support of democracy and human rights.

hightor wrote:

What we see in Afghanistan today is the result of monumental hubris and stupidity, not cowardice or betrayal.

Nope. What we see today is the result of you betraying our ally to our enemy.

hightor wrote:

Trying to score political points

When you commit atrocities you should expect to be condemned. That's not scoring political points. It's good people standing for what is right.

hightor wrote:

off the inevitable result of hasty actions made twenty years ago

This is solely result of your betrayal. Your betrayal is now and has nothing to do with 20 years ago.

hightor wrote:

solely for the purposes of upholding the mythology of USAmerican exceptionalism is disgusting and contemptible

What is disgusting and contemptable here is your hatred for America.

hightor wrote:

not that I'd expect anything different from you or the MAGAtards.

You should expect good people to always stand for what is right, and therefore to always stand against you.

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@Builder,

Builder wrote:

Al Qaeda seem to have had their time in the limelight, right?

They still exist.

Their financial guy is new, the original guy having been dronestriked (dronestruck?), but the rest of their leadership are guys who were around in 2001:

Leader
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayman_al-Zawahiri

Military Chief
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saif_al-Adel

Financial Chief
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezedin_Abdel_Aziz_Khalil

Explosives and Chemical Weapons Specialist
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Sayyid_Muhamed_Mustafa_al-Bakri

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The Big Lie has met it 1st court decision and it has lost worse than anyone thought. The Judge has order lawyers (including Guiliani get more education and face a disbarment process.

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Judge sanctions pro-Trump lawyers who brought 'frivolous' election fraud lawsuits

By Tierney Sneed, CNN

Updated 10:53 PM ET, Wed August 25, 2021

(CNN). A federal judge ordered sanctions Wednesday for Sidney Powell, Lin Wood and several other lawyers who worked on Trump-aligned lawsuits seeking to challenge the results of the 2020 election.

US District Judge Linda Parker, of the Eastern District of Michigan, said the lawyers had "engaged in litigation practices" that were "abusive and, in turn, sanctionable."

"Sanctions are required to deter the filing of future frivolous lawsuits designed primarily to spread the narrative that our election processes are rigged and our democratic institutions cannot be trusted," the judge wrote in a 110-page opinion.

Parker is ordering the lawyers to reimburse the attorneys' fees that the city of Detroit and Michigan state officials paid in seeking the sanctions. The lawyers must also take legal education classes, the judge said, and she is referring her decision to the Michigan Attorney Grievance Commission, and "the appropriate disciplinary authority for the jurisdiction(s) where each attorney is admitted," for potential disciplinary action.

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@BillW,

Sorry, forgot the addy:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/25/politics/judge-sanctions-powell-wood-kraken-lawsuits/index.html

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@BillW,

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"Sanctions are required to deter the filing of future frivolous lawsuits designed primarily to spread the narrative that our election processes are rigged and our democratic institutions cannot be trusted,"

This is actually very dangerous narrative, in that one judge, in one precinct, is making edicts for 50 states in the United States of America. How could said judge predict that future lawsuits would be "frivolous" to begin with, and what evidence does this one judge share, that the election processes in every one of fifty states, aren't being rigged?

Should there be no oversight whatsoever, based on this one judge's say-so, preventing future scrutineering of the election process? They are, after all, democratic institutions, operated and policed by people. Fallible people.

I'd be appealing this ruling on those grounds for starters, and telling this judge to stick to what they're supposed to be doing, rather than what he's attempting to do.

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@oralloy,

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That said, why do you say "even" Builder, as if he was considered less capable?

No, because he is less likely to side with the critics of right-wing populism and movement conservatism on this message board.

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He is more capable than any of the progressives here.

Thanks for endorsing the legitimacy of the criticism he directed against you.

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Our training of the Afghani Army was not costing the US or our NATO allies very many lives at all.

The USA's post-9/11 military involvement was not limited to "our training of the Afghani Army". By late 2018, close to 15,000 USAmerican soldiers and contractors had been killed, and over 1,400 soldiers in our allied forces. Over 2,350 of these deaths occurred in Afghanistan. As you project a rather heartless and ghoulish persona on this board, I know you don't care about the number of civilians who were killed, but your cavalier writing off of the deaths of that many USAmerican soldiers exposes the traitorous nature of your false claims of "patriotism".

You're a joke and I've wasted enough time with you for today.

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@hightor,

Builder thinks shape changing lizards rule the Earth.

He is from the planet mental.

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@hightor,

hightor gets it. oblivious oraloy stil doesn't.

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