Monitoring Biden and other Contemporary Events

Leaving just to make an anniversary date is.

That seemed the overriding concern, get out before September, not withdraw in an orderly manner.

As I have already said, it would have made more sense to wait until the fighting season ended.

The only reason Biden didn’t do that was to make some anniversary.

That is political opportunism.

We trained an army of 300,000 and equipped them with the best weaponry. We could not give them the will to fight.

Not one of the September 11 hijackers, all members of al-Qaeda, were from Afghanistan.

The USA was justified in pursuing bin Laden and punishing the Taliban which hosted the al-Qaeda training camps, but embarking on a land war and attempting to rebuild Afghanistan and transform it into a democratic state -- a neo-conservative fantasy -- was a mistake, and ill-conceived from the beginning.

Starting an additional war in Iraq a few years later was an act of monumental stupidity.

Joe Biden knew what had to be done...and he did it.

Once the **** stirrers quiet down the public will likely accept Joe's action.

snood wrote:

We trained an army of 300,000 and equipped them with the best weaponry. We could not give them the will to fight.

They have had the will to fight for years now. They only lost the will to fight when Traitor Joe sold them out to the Taliban.

They only lost the will to fight when Traitor Joe sold them out to the Taliban.

izzythepush wrote:

Leaving just to make an anniversary date is.

That seemed the overriding concern, get out before September, not withdraw in an orderly manner.

As I have already said, it would have made more sense to wait until the fighting season ended.

The only reason Biden didn’t do that was to make some anniversary.

That is political opportunism.

I think attributing Biden’s decision to political maneuvering is short-sighted. I think looking in hindsight and saying "this is how we should have withdrawn" is a little arrogant, all things considered. It is assuming some things that ain't necessarily so.

This was not an easy decision. Biden set a date and stuck to it – something the previous three presidents had talked about but could not do. It was not arbitrary; it was sticking to the agreement with the Taliban the previous president made.
Saying the withdrawal should have been more "orderly" seems a little naive to me. Everyone knew chaos was going to happen when
the US left.

(For anyone else who was not up on what the Afghani fighting season is…
Afghani fighters have been fairly consistent in sticking to a “fighting season” – especially the Taliban. It’s based on the growing season of the Afghani opium trade and the impossibility of conducting a ground war during an Afghani winter. So, there is usually a marked drop in fighting activity and casualties from October to March.)


The Afghani fighting season is not a cease fire written in stone that we could base our withdrawal on.

For us to base our withdrawal date on the Taliban’s fighting season, it would involve some trust in the Taliban’s integrity. If we waited until October before we pulled out, who’s to say the Taliban wouldn’t then swoop in and take over? It took them less than one month from the time the US left until they took Kandahar.

Again - Biden was sticking to the agreement that Trump made with the Taliban – to leave before the September 11 anniversary. Whose to say that if we’d stuck around past Sept. 11, the Taliban wouldn’t keep their promise to ramp up attacks on US forces?

We trained an army of 300,000 and equipped them with the best weaponry. We could not give them the will to fight.

Bothers me that some time of the ****-stirrers are Democrats.
1) None of them have any useful ideas about how the pullout should have happened.
2) Any ideas they have would be pointless retrospection anyway.
3) Democrats need to be supportive of Biden and not joining the fools tearing him down for what was a very difficult and (as Frank said) politically risky decision.

izzythepush wrote:

He could have done it better.

EVERYTHING EVERY PRESIDENT HAS EVER DONE...COULD HAVE BEEN DONE BETTER.

Everything I've ever done...could have been done better.

My guess is that damn near everything anyone has ever done...could have been done better.

He DID what had to be done.



None of the others did.

So, yes...it could have been done better.

Yes. That is indeed the sell out that I am talking about.

Well, I suppose no one will ever accuse you of having a grasp on reality. What's it like living in Never-Never Land? Have you met Peter Pan?

But why do you neglect the time ... well, from the big Kabul Bank financial scandal onward?

Or that on 29 February 2020, the US and the Taliban signed a peace agreement titled the Agreement for Bringing Peace to Afghanistan, including the withdrawal of all regular American and NATO troops from Afghanistan?