Does The Left Honestly Support Our Troops?

glitterbag wrote:

OK then, Shame on you for repeating it.

Is someone there forcing you to read this article or thread? If they are, please ask them to stop.

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No McG, no one is forcing me to read the crap on this thread. Did someone force you to repeat hateful nonsense aimed at dividing our country during dangerous times? I was not aware I needed your permission to respond to your thread posted in a somewhat public forum. You obviously wanted a response, and I gave you mine.

I have two more comments, one, Americans should be pulling together to make sure our country is safe and not assume that they are alone in loving their country or that they are alone when it comes to having children in harms way. Two, some people (and you know who you are) have got to stop thinking it is 1968 with people reacting in a shameful way to draftee's returning to this country after serving in Viet Nam.

It's a whole new world my friend, and we have many more enimies than before, enemies who will blow themselves up in order to cause terror and bloodshed where ever they find an opportunity. But are you worried about that???? Or are you worried that "the left" exists? My Dad, my brother and my husband all served in hot wars and none of them want anythng but the best for our troops. Their political views would probably put them in that dreaded "left" catagory and I doubt you would convince any of them that they are "dishonest" when it comes to supporting our armed forces. They have a better idea than I do what soldiers are facing today.

So while you are looking for the "enemy within" using specious criteria and pseudo-think all the time patting your back on how much more patriotic and troop loving you are, why do you suppose families are not allowed to film the arrival of their loved ones coffins at Dover? They lost their lives because of this administration's rush to war......is it unpatriotic to honor our war dead????? Or is it just bad press?

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That's right, girl! Call him on his divisive speech!

Cycloptichorn

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Glitterbag,
Good response to a smug reply :-)

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I would like to thank Cyclo and Intrepid for offering their support. I would have sent a PM but I still haven't been reinstated to use the privilege. No one reading this should assume that the three of us are in complete agreement regarding every political issue, but I did enjoy knowing that someone other than myself saw the pitiable divisiveness in the thread. And the fallacy of thinking you can ask for an opinion then shrink when you get one.

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glitterbag wrote:

I would like to thank Cyclo and Intrepid for offering their support. I would have sent a PM but I still haven't been reinstated to use the privilege. No one reading this should assume that the three of us are in complete agreement regarding every political issue, but I did enjoy knowing that someone other than myself saw the pitiable divisiveness in the thread. And the fallacy of thinking you can ask for an opinion then shrink when you get one.

Divisiveness is a huge issue in these trying times. Would you like to defend the divisiveness created by people like Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, and Howard Dean......now they have created some SERIOUS divisiveness. Perhaps this thread is not the place to discuss their agendas but if you suport them with a yes, I will start a new thread so you can do that at length.

rayban

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rayban, I'm not sure what you are asking. Are you assuming because I called McG on the dishonesty of his piece that I am unable to criticize Democrats? If that's what you want to talk about, I don't know what to say. I'm not very good at goat roping, I don't like to make decisions based on generalizations, and I'm a big opponent of demonizing someone you don't know because it is politically expedient. Exactly what do you want me to say about Ted Kennedy? I suspect that you are just annoyed that I took offense at the dumbass (I'm sorry, there just isn't a better word to use) remarks made about people, others refer to as the "left". If my suspicions are correct, it would be pointless perhaps to start another thread. If I am incorrect, perhaps this group could actually engage in honest discourse and try to learn what make each other tick. If you decide to start a thread, I would be honored to be invited. However, if it is just going to be a bunch of stuff like, Republicans stink or Democrats stink, I may have to decline.

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Should someone show her the volumes of demonization by her stalwart allies--so that she can reveal her appropriate distain...?

Too much hypocrisy for a good old fashioned self-righteous display such as this one.

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If she wants to see "hateful nonsense aimed at dividing our country during dangerous times" all she has to do is subscribe to the New York Times.

(NYT ... not doing so well ... down, down, down.)

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Lash, I'm sorry you feel my remarks are self-righteous. I assume you didn't read the opening remark of this thread. I don't know who you think are my allies, I sure don't. I know occassionally various posters will say nice things to posters they don't usually agree with. This doesn't mean we are going to rent a big place and all live together. If you want to think of it as hypocisy, fine with me. I just happen to think that the issues are too complicated for one word answers. I've been posting on these forums for about 4 years now, certainly before 9/11. I don't remember every issue I've gotten involved in, but I'm pretty sure if I thought you were getting the short end of the stick unfairly, I would offer some support to you. Just because some posters agree on some issues does not mean they agree on every single one.

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And here we go again...

It was worth a try glitterbag.

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It's truly sad when a section of our population cheers the possible demise of one of the world's most esteemed nespapers.
Wouldn't it be great if all our newspapers lined up behind the Washington Times? That would help end divisiveness and put everyone in the same ideological camp.

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Round and round it goes and where it stops nobody knows

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panzade wrote:

It's truly sad when a section of our population cheers the possible demise of one of the world's most esteemed nespapers.
Wouldn't it be great if all our newspapers lined up behind the Washington Times? That would help end divisiveness and put everyone in the same ideological camp.

It's perhaps equally as "sad" when one examines the reasons for "the possible demise of one of the world's most esteemed newspapers."

Perhaps they should be asking themselves why their subscriptions are falling?

Perhaps they should examine why some would be "skeptical" of their reporting when they make the bombing of a house in Iraq by U.S. troops by mistake their frontpage headline news, then bury the story that it wasn't a mistake afterall, the troops bombed the correct house on p.16?

Or the fact that the editorial staff is not subject to corrections, but some of that staff's errors are so egregious that they have to print those errors on the correction page over and over and over???

If their stock is plummeting, and subscriptions are down, might they not want to examine the reasons why?

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I have to ask.... why are McGentrix, Just Wonders and Lash sitting in front of their computer firing useless verbal shots at differing opinions instead of being in Iraq and really supporting the troops? I'm sure there is a recruiting station near you who would be glad to accept you as a volunteer.

It would do you a world of good marching in step with the troops who are fighting and dying for a mountain of lies instead of lockstepping with the world's foremost liar and his thugs.

Methinks it would clear some of the crap from your eyes too.

Magginkat (& before you open your big mouth again....)

Mother of troop who managed to return from Iraq only slightly injured.
Air Force Veteran - I served, bu$h deserted.
Widow of Vietnam Vet.

There.... take that and blow it out your .......... ah never mind. That's what you've been doing all along.

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Heh. don't bring that up!

You'll be called UnAmerican for even suggesting that they recruit!

Because we are completely in the middle of 1984 with these people...

Cycloptichorn

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Hmmm - well, I admire and lend my support to the law enforcement and firefighter personnel, many of whom risked their own lives to save others on 9/11/01. Did I rush off to NYC to join them? Did you? If you didn't, does that mean you didn't support their efforts on behalf of those who desperately needed their help?

If I say I admire and support those who work endless hours in medical research, would you criticize me because I chose another field for my career?

I posted this satire piece before, but I think it serves to answer your silly post that we cannot presume to support the efforts of our troops unless we're willing to drop what we're doing and immediately enlist.
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We all know about Chickenhawks - those people who support war but aren't willing to walk down to the recruiter's office and sign up! The cowards. How dare someone want somebody else to do the dirty work for them! Well, they're not alone! Here is a list of other cowards and their hypocracy.

ChickenCops - People who call 911 expecting the police to protect them when they're too scared to join the force themselves!!! This can also apply to the unreasonable request that someone douse the flames engulfing your house if you've never shared a seat with a dalmation on the way to a 3 alarm inferno yourself.

ChickenJanitors - People who expect their toilets to be clean but can't lower themselves to quit their high paying jobs to do it!

ChickenPOTUS - Individuals who kvetch about the president and don't have the fortitude to run for the office themselves!

ChickenCarnivores - Cowards who are too scared to raise and slaughter their own animals yet expect steak / chicken / pork for dinner.

ChickenLegals - Unsavory persons who think they have the right to sue others even though they themselves cannot bring themselves to go to law school.

ChickenG@m3rs - Luddites who think they should be allowed to play the latest Grand Theft Auto without actually learning to program a computer.

ChickenMcYourWays - Those who want fries with that, but can't be bothered to put on a paper hat and a name tag and do it themselves.

ChickenChairtables - People who complain about the plight of the poor who have never forced their kids to live in a cardboard box.

ChickenJailers - Not willing to put your newborn in the klink? Then how can you say it's fair to put serial rapists in there?

When will people learn that you cannot support something you wouldn't make your grandmother do at gunpoint? When will these people learn perspective?????

Or am I being silly?

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Magginkat wrote:

I have to ask.... why are McGentrix, Just Wonders and Lash sitting in front of their computer firing useless verbal shots at differing opinions instead of being in Iraq and really supporting the troops? I'm sure there is a recruiting station near you who would be glad to accept you as a volunteer.

It would do you a world of good marching in step with the troops who are fighting and dying for a mountain of lies instead of lockstepping with the world's foremost liar and his thugs.

Methinks it would clear some of the crap from your eyes too.

Magginkat (& before you open your big mouth again....)

Mother of troop who managed to return from Iraq only slightly injured.
Air Force Veteran - I served, bu$h deserted.
Widow of Vietnam Vet.

There.... take that and blow it out your .......... ah never mind. That's what you've been doing all along.

Well said, magginkat.

These uber-patriotic threads, full of hot air and agitation are enough to make a cat laugh - or cry.

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Magginkat wrote:

I have to ask.... why are McGentrix, Just Wonders and Lash sitting in front of their computer firing useless verbal shots at differing opinions instead of being in Iraq and really supporting the troops? I'm sure there is a recruiting station near you who would be glad to accept you as a volunteer.
I didn't know people were still saying such stupid **** as this. Some litmus test may be appropritae for those who criticise them and say they're all torturers. Not for those of us who support them, realize they are doing an impossible job and give them the benefit of the doubt because of the surreal position they're in.
It would do you a world of good marching in step with the troops who are fighting and dying for a mountain of lies instead of lockstepping with the world's foremost liar and his thugs.
Why? It wouldn't change our minds about supporting them, valuing them. I think you're little scenario would much better suit those on other threads who castrate them all because of the actions of a few.

Mother of troop who managed to return from Iraq only slightly injured.
Air Force Veteran -
Widow of Vietnam Vet.
So you say...
There.... take that and blow it out your .......... ah never mind. That's what you've been doing all along.

If that is true, propping one's internet argument up on the body and service of others is gross.

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