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O'Connor to Retire From Supreme Court

 
 
JustWonders
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 01:42 pm
Smile

<Those bad Dems paid for votes with CIGARETTES...no wonder they're sittin' in jail>

LOL
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 01:44 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
I disagree with your assessment of Clarence Thomas, KW.


Disagree until the cows come home. He did not have the legislative, legal, or judicial experience to be a justice.

This is not the first time a Republican president played games with the Supreme Court. Remember the Ginsberg nomination? One nominee had been shot down because of past decisions, so they nominated Ginsberg, with almost no experience, so they couldn't find anything to shoot down! And the Republicans admitted it!

Well, that gambit didn't work, Ginsberg withdrew the nomination, but they hit the jackpot with Thomas. Black, conservative, has views almost no blacks agree with, and no experience or qualificatons.

Just put him up there, then scream that the Democrats don't like monorities when Thomas' feeble record is questioned. And his record was indeed feeble.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 01:49 pm
You're still ignoring the memo. The Democrats target nominees specifically because they are minorities.
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 01:49 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
You and Blatham are consistent in changing the subject whenever it becomes the least bit uncomfortable. Smile

By all means start a thread on these different subjects.


On the contrary, I'm sticking to the subject.

As I have said before, the Republican strategy is to find minority conservatives, whose views are in contradiction to almost all other minorities, put them up there whether they are qualified or not, then scream that Democrats are against minorities when these people's credentials are questioned.

Just as Foxfyre is doing now. Twisted Evil
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 02:02 pm
KW - would you find Garza to be less than qualified, since he's also a minority? Don't forget...he's an ex-Marine (he can handle the flack) Smile
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 02:11 pm
STANEK: The Democrats' virtual plantation

Wednesday, December 10, 2003

By Jill Stanek ([email protected])

Stanek writes:

Slaves taken to court for breaking the fugitive slave law were not allowed the right to a jury trial.

Democrats did not allow federal Circuit Court nominee Miguel Estrada to receive his constitutional right to a fair up or down vote in the Senate.

The once pro-slavery Democrat Party really hasn't changed much in the last 150 years.

OPINION -- In the old days, slaves who attempted to escape from the plantation were hunted down and returned to their masters for severe punishment or even death.

Slavery ceased to be politically correct, at least on one side of the aisle, when the Republican Party was formed in the 1850s specifically to counter the pro-slavery Democrat Party.

But still waters run deep.

The Democrat Party may not readily show its underlying pro-slavery current, since racism is no longer cool. But rest assured the party still metes out punishment to runaways.

Democrat Senators Dick Durbin and Ted Kennedy were recently caught with a virtual smoking gun in their hands after Democrat staff memos were leaked showing the senators did their virtual best to kill the Circuit Court nomination of Miguel Estrada, specifically because he was Hispanic but conservative.

President Bush nominated Estrada to the federal bench position, one step below the Supreme Court. But after more than two years of Democrat delay tactics, Estrada withdrew his nomination this past September.

Estrada's nomination was so threatening to Democrats that they opted to filibuster him, the first such extreme blockade of a federal judicial nominee in United States history.

Estrada would have been the first Hispanic to serve on the D.C. Circuit Court. All but two Senate Democrats participated in his lynching.

Estrada was pegged "dangerous," as one Durbin memo called him, simply because he was a member of a minority who it was feared held conservative values, while advancing to a leadership position under a Republican.

"We can't repeat the mistake we made with Clarence Thomas," a Kennedy memo said. Thomas is a black conservative Supreme Court justice appointed by the first President Bush.

Apparently, neither blacks nor Hispanics are allowed off the Democrat plantation. One may gain some level of prestige as a Democrat house butler, like Jesse Jackson, but that's it.

It should come as no surprise that Democrats would target minorities for demise who want off their ideological plantation. The Democrat Party has a grim pro-slavery, segregationist, anti-civil rights heritage, in contrast to the grand opposite from the Republican Party.

A memo written by Democrat staffers (or "slave catchers," as they were once known) to Durbin in November 2001 indicated that of all Bush's Court of Appeals nominees, Estrada was considered "especially dangerous, because he has a minimal paper trail, he is Latino, and the White House seems to be grooming him for a Supreme Court appointment."

A talking points memo from staffers to Kennedy labeled Estrada "a stealth, right-wing zealot," even though the same memo conceded, "we know very little about Mr. Estrada."

Just what is a right-wing zealot? Someone who "advance[s] the social agenda [of] school prayer, anti-pornography, anti-busing, right-to-life, and quotas in employment," trembled Allison Herwitt of NARAL Pro-Choice America in an e-mail attached to a Kennedy staff memo.

None of the nominees were attacked in the memos about their personalities - except Estrada. "He has serious temperament problems…. He's been criticized… as too ideological… as not being 'even-tempered' and as having a 'short fuse.'"

It wouldn't be racist to brand Estrada as a hotheaded Hispanic, would it?

A February 28, 2002, memo to Kennedy said, "Ralph told Andy that you are anxious to develop… a strategy for dealing with conservative Latino Circuit Court nominees that are hostile to constitutional and civil rights…. Andy believes there are several Latino media leaders who share our concerns and would like to meet with you."

Surprise. Even the mainstream Latino media colluded with Democrats to seek Estrada's downfall. How shameful. Other civil rights groups that support the widespread use of racial quotas in hiring and distribution of public benefits were in on Estrada's lynching as well. No longer slaves, they're indentured servants.

It's one thing to remain on the plantation as a paid lackey, or because one is afraid to make it on one's own. But it's another thing to betray a brother who wants freedom. (Read the betrayals for yourself at www.fairjudiciary.com.)

In the old days, slaves taken to court for breaking the fugitive slave law were not allowed the right to a jury trial.

Democrats did not allow Estrada his constitutional right to a fair up or down vote in the Senate.

The Democrat Party hasn't changed much in the last 150 years.

© 2003 Illinois Leader.com

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That's some hot rhtoric, but there is a valid comparison to the treatment of minorities who DARE to leave the Democrat party. Condi, Colin, Thomas... Estrada.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 02:12 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
The Democrats target nominees specifically because they are minorities.



Conservative Groups Rally Against Gonzales as Justice
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 02:13 pm
JustWonders wrote:
KW - would you find Garza to be less than qualified, since he's also a minority?


That's rich, coming from the party who elected Trent Lott for Senate majority leader, despite his ties to Klan orented groups.

To repeat again, Clarence Thomas is not unqualified because he is black, or because he is a black conservative.

He is unqualified because he had absolutely no legal career, judicial career, or legislative career to qualify him to sit on the Supreme Court.

He was nominated because he was black conservative. He was not unqualified because he was a black conservative. He was unqualified because he had no experience in any of the areas you would expect a Supreme Court justice to have experience in.

Sorry, but your gambit of playing dumb and trying to twist words has fallen flat on it's face. But I am sure you will try it again.
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 02:15 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
The Democrats target nominees specifically because they are minorities.



Conservative Groups Rally Against Gonzales as Justice


Quote:
And on Friday, the Rev. Miguel Rivera, president of the National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders, an advocacy group that represents more than 6,000 Latino evangelical churches, sent the president a letter urging consideration of "a true conservative Latino nominee," Emilio M. Garza, a federal appeals judge from Texas.


Smile
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 02:15 pm
LOL!!! Because they think he's too liberal---not because of his ethnicity!!!

That's not racism, such as revealed by the Democrats.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 02:19 pm
Yes, Walter, we have already noted the probable conservative opposition to Gonzales. Not because he is Hispanic--that is a big plus--but because of his track record as a judge in Texas.

And KW is fading folks. He has now gone from trying to change the subject to personal attacks. I declare victory on this one. Smile
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 02:23 pm
Hurrah, Foxy!!!!!!!!
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 02:28 pm
kelticwizard wrote:
JustWonders wrote:
KW - would you find Garza to be less than qualified, since he's also a minority?


That's rich, coming from the party who elected Trent Lott for Senate majority leader, despite his ties to Klan orented groups.

To repeat again, Clarence Thomas is not unqualified because he is black, or because he is a black conservative.

He is unqualified because he had absolutely no legal career, judicial career, or legislative career to qualify him to sit on the Supreme Court.

He was nominated because he was black conservative. He was not unqualified because he was a black conservative. He was unqualified because he had no experience in any of the areas you would expect a Supreme Court justice to have experience in.

Sorry, but your gambit of playing dumb and trying to twist words has fallen flat on it's face. But I am sure you will try it again.


Oh. Keltic slipped bigtime with the error re Trent Lott. Its the Grand Wizard Democrat KKK robe-wearin' Robert Byrd that has Klan ties.

All Lott did was say something nice about Strom Thurmond.

The Dems hang on to their klansmen.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 02:35 pm
Quote:
"They also identified Miguel Estrada (D.C. Circuit) as especially dangerous because he had a minimal paper trail, he is Latino, and the White House seems to be grooming him for a Supreme Court appointment," the aide wrote.


foxfyre...from this you and Boyden reach to 'dems target minorities'. Handy slime trick, the suggestion being that racial or ethnic minorities are seen as inferior. And morally repugnant of you both to suggest it. It would be just jimdandy if you 'values' folks would gain a sense of the value of honesty and accuracy.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 02:43 pm
If "he is Latino" is included in THEIR list of reasons to attack him, it is clearly racist.

For you to completely fabricate that Fox alluded to anyone being inferior is repugnant. And a cheap attempt to take the focus off of the incredibly transparent, disgusting racism of the Democrat party.

They are going to swing on their own rope.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 02:45 pm
Lash wrote:
...the incredibly racism of the Democrat party.


Excuse me while I burst into sidesplitting laughter.

LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing
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au1929
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 02:46 pm
Lash wrote
Quote:
Slavery ceased to be politically correct, at least on one side of the aisle, when the Republican Party was formed in the 1850s specifically to counter the pro-slavery Democrat Party.

But still waters run deep.

The Democrat Party may not readily show its underlying pro-slavery current, since racism is no longer cool. But rest assured the party still metes out punishment to runaways.



I should like to remind you the democratic solid south, the party of slavery and segregation became the republican solid south when the Democrats began to champion civil rights. The people you now label as pro slavery the lynchers, segregationists and church burners, are now the backbone of the republican party in the South.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 02:49 pm
No. They like blacks now. They elevate conservative blacks and other so-called minorities to positions of POWER. You won't see that in the DEMOCRAT party!!!!

The last lynching I saw was a bunch of Democrats, trying to hoist up Clarence Thomas.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 02:51 pm
Lash writes
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Oh. Keltic slipped bigtime with the error re Trent Lott. Its the Grand Wizard Democrat KKK robe-wearin' Robert Byrd that has Klan ties.

All Lott did was say something nice about Strom Thurmond.

The Dems hang on to their klansmen.


True. Tip O'Neill affectionately called Robert Byrd "Sheets" Smile

I don't think the claque that has suddenly (and mysteriously) showed up here really wants to get into a debate on whether Democrats or Republicans are more racist or have more racism in their history. And to engage in that debate will hijack the thread and that is not fair to the thread author.

But man oh man, I hope somebody starts another thread on it. It sure would be fun to debate Smile
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2005 02:52 pm
Oh and don't worry about Blatham. He informed me some time back that I wasn't worth talking to and wouldn't do so any further. So I don't even read his posts Smile
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