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Builder
 
  -2  
Mon 9 Jan, 2023 08:35 pm
@engineer,
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The reality is that humans are sometimes fragile.


It sounds like you remain diligently uninformed about the uptick in SADS.

They even had to coin a new term for it.
engineer
 
  2  
Mon 9 Jan, 2023 08:36 pm
@Builder,
Your statement was that healthy adults (or at least ones that appear healthy) do not suffer heart attacks. I know from experience that they do. Also, here is a better link to Sudden Arrhythmic Death Syndrome (SADS). Looks like the term has been around for a while.
Builder
 
  -2  
Mon 9 Jan, 2023 08:46 pm
@engineer,
You cited just two cases, without any links to the veracity of your claims, and personal information not stated.
That's called hearsay; not evidence of anything. cf in literary terms.

If an autopsy cannot explain a cause of death, then arrhythmia is still just a guess.

Nice try, but no cigar.
engineer
 
  3  
Mon 9 Jan, 2023 08:51 pm
@Builder,
Well, I'm not going to dox my friends to suit your interests and both cases were confirmed as heart issues (one through autopsy while the other lives on with a pacemaker). If you want to live on in your ignorance, I can't help you further, but I know that I tried. It is strange that you require zero proof to support conspiracies but refuse firsthand testimony when it runs counter to your beliefs.
Builder
 
  -3  
Mon 9 Jan, 2023 09:07 pm
@engineer,
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It is strange that you require zero proof to support conspiracies but refuse firsthand testimony....


We're on a public forum; not a court of law.

Your hearsay is noted.

I'm quoting from verifiable links; you're talking personal experience, and calling me a "theorist"?

That's quite amusing, even considering the subject matter is so serious.
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Glennn
 
  -1  
Mon 9 Jan, 2023 10:01 pm
@engineer,
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. . . looking for anyone who dies relatively young . . .

I'm talking about the autopsies of all the relatively young. But anyway, hate mail is a fact of life. What are you going to do about it?
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Glennn
 
  -1  
Mon 9 Jan, 2023 10:23 pm
Anyway, now that we know that Oralloy is fine, let's get back to unresolved issues.

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Someone said: What video? You still haven't provided a link.

Someone else here answered: Here ya go, for the second time; or is it the third? Shocked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7vls-tA1Rw

So, you really think he was saying that a cycle-threshold of anything over 35 will produce meaningful results? You believe that word meanings change when coming from the lips of medical people?

The video makes the context clear. He was saying that a cycle-threshold of anything over 35 will give meaningless results. I'm just curious to hear how someone can watch the video and come away with the ridiculous idea that context is missing. They have some spainin' to do!

So, why did the FDA recommend a cycle-threshold of 40? And more importantly, why didn't tony step up and share his expertise with them?

And why did tony get in front of a camera and tell the world that the experimental injection presents a dead end to the virus when he knew that it didn't prevent infection or transmission? Anybody want to take a crack at that? Or are you going to insist that since the "pandemic" began, certain words--in this case "meaningful" and "meaningless"--traded places. That's a hard sell . . .
glitterbag
 
  1  
Tue 10 Jan, 2023 12:05 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:


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Unfortunately, people love to hold onto their hate. I don't know if it makes them feel superior to others, but it should make them ashamed.


The irony being, when you make these statements, they describe you to a T.

Classic NPD case. Not that you could ever see that. Incurable mental disorder.


Gosh!!!!!! I won't be able to sleep tonight, mr. meany pants.
Builder
 
  -2  
Tue 10 Jan, 2023 12:20 am
@glitterbag,
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I won't be able to sleep tonight, mr. meany pants.


You're welcome, sparky.
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Builder
 
  -1  
Tue 10 Jan, 2023 02:04 am
@Glennn,
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Or are you going to insist that since the "pandemic" began, certain words--in this case "meaningful" and "meaningless"--traded places. That's a hard sell . . .


Their whole scenario is a very "hard sell", which is why you won't expect any response from any of the narrative pushers on this platform.

The actual "terms of reference" for a pandemic got a big "shift" just before they released this virus, and then "shared it around" via injections.

The spike protein is what is changing in the virus, and that's what they're injecting. To assume they could create and test and approve an injection for a constantly mutating virus is absurd.

I guess that's why the numbskulls here want to take it.
Glennn
 
  -1  
Tue 10 Jan, 2023 10:01 am
@Builder,
The biggest question is why people continue taking instructions from proven liars.

What is it about being lied to that appeals to these people? Where did they learn to respond to liars by pretending they didn't hear them lie.

Maybe someone will stumble in and explain the wisdom of pretending.
hightor
 
  2  
Tue 10 Jan, 2023 10:06 am
@Glennn,
Good question. Why do so many people find being lied to by "Dr." John Campbell so appealing?
Glennn
 
  -2  
Tue 10 Jan, 2023 10:08 am
@hightor,
You must have found it in your heart to forgive the FDA's, the CDC's, and tony's lies.

How do you manage to muster that kind of forgiveness?
Glennn
 
  -2  
Wed 11 Jan, 2023 08:31 am
@Glennn,
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Maybe someone will stumble in and explain the wisdom of pretending that they can't hear the lies.

And stumble they did . . .
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hightor
 
  3  
Wed 11 Jan, 2023 08:34 am
@Glennn,
You can forgive "Dr." John Campbell if you wish – why would that bother me?
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Glennn
 
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Wed 11 Jan, 2023 08:43 am
@hightor,
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What video? You still haven't provided a link.

Here ya go, for the second time; or is it the third? Shocked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7vls-tA1Rw

So, you really think he was saying that a cycle-threshold of anything over 35 will produce meaningful results? Do you believe that word meanings change when coming from the lips of medical people?

Provide another example of anyone using the word "meaningless" to indicate "meaningful."
hightor
 
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Wed 11 Jan, 2023 10:27 am
@Glennn,
Yeah, you posted it here. I don't care about your fixation with this two year old video – which is just a snippet taken out of context. You and Yung Golem really ought to ask Dr. Fauci about the apparent discrepancy and see if he can clear it up for you.

Here's what I told you last Thursday:
Quote:

You've been obsessed with this non-issue for nearly two years. No one cares anymore. Fauci's retired and now that he's got a little spare time, maybe you can ask him directly and hear his explanation. It might be very simple. Maybe "I made a mistake" or "the information is still useful" or "subsequent discoveries have led the CDC to revise its previous claims" or even "I lied in order to pocket the money Pfizer offered me". But quit expecting us to nurse your monomaniacal obsession. We don't give a ****.
Glennn
 
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Wed 11 Jan, 2023 10:50 am
@hightor,
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Here's what I told you last Thursday:

You repeatedly claim that I've taken a clear statement out of context, and have since refused to even give us even a hint of what the proper context is. That's because you you're blowing hot air. You won't even take a stab at it because you know the limitation of your "out of context" claim. As long as no one asks you any follow up questions, your "out of context" whining holds up. But it requires your continued dodging of the context question, and you're doing really well with that.

So, if I'm correct (and I am), you need to offer a reasonable rationale for the FDA recommending a cycle-threshold of 40 when tony and others made it abundantly clear that such an amplification will give nothing but meaningless results. If you think I'm obsessed with this issue, my obsession is directly proportional to your obsession with dodging the simple context question.

Now! What's the context? This time say SOMETHING! If you know what it is, you sure don't know what it ain't! So, if you stop your obsession with denying clear statements like this on:

“…If you get [perform the PCR test at] a cycle threshold of 35 or more…the chances of it being replication-confident [aka accurate] are miniscule…you almost never can culture virus [detect a true positive result] from a 37 threshold cycle…even 36…”

I'm sure that by now, readers are waiting for your correction of my interpretation of "meaningless." Wouldn't it be great if when you didn't like what someone said, you could just claim they took a statement out of context, and you didn't have to back it up? But that's not the way it works, is it?
hightor
 
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Wed 11 Jan, 2023 11:27 am
@Glennn,
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You repeatedly claim that I've taken a clear statement out of context, and have since refused to even give us even a hint of what the proper context is.


Haha – you're the one making the claim. It's one sentence with brackets and a bunch of ellipses. I didn't know where you got it and asked you to provide more context. So you posted a video – which is itself just a segment of an interview. It doesn't identify the people Fauci's talking to, doesn't show if any follow up questions were asked, it doesn't say where the video is taking place. In other words, it's taken out of context.

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I'm sure that by now, readers are waiting for your correction of my interpretation of "meaningless."

Oh yeah – "readers"! Laughing Yeah, everyone's hanging on a resolution to this pressing two year old "problem"!

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Wouldn't it be great if when you didn't like what someone said, you could just claim they took a statement out of context, and you didn't have to back it up?

That's basically how it does work! Someone makes a statement, mentions a few factoids, and uses a few unfamiliar terms. So he's asked to present a fuller picture because there's insufficient data to make an informed response.
Glennn
 
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Wed 11 Jan, 2023 01:54 pm
@hightor,
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It's one sentence with brackets and a bunch of ellipses.

I provided not only the quote, but the video from which the quote was taken. So, now you can point out how the proper context changes what he clearly said about a cycle-threshold of anything over 35.

If there was a pop quiz after watching the video, and you asked someone of average intelligence whether tony was talking about a cycle-threshold of anything over 35 giving meaningless results, or giving meaningful results, do you actually believe that anyone would write down "meaningful"? I don't think so. And neither do you.

We can just put it out there right now. If there's anyone who watched the video and came away with the idea that a cycle-threshold of anything over 35 will offer meaningful results, help hightor out. How did the "proper" context change "meaningless" into "meaningful"?

Let's see how much support you get from . . . anyone.
 

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