War With Iran Has Begun...

quote, "We neither have the funds nor the manpower to fight an additional war. Even the war monger in the White House and his puppet master must be aware of that." Insane people are capable of anything. Bush is intent on bankrupting our government, and he may succeed. There are enough nuts out there that still thinks he's doing a good job.

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McGentrix wrote:

DontTreadOnMe wrote:
rayban1 wrote:
DontTreadOnMe wrote:
the slimer squad will be after ritter (again) any time now.

If the Bush administration is even a fraction as bad as the libs on this forum suggest.......Ritter would have disappeared long ago.

well?? seems to be the sop. sliming the bejeezus out of anyone that comes out against the cheney whi... er, i mean the bush whitehouse is immediately st upon by the goon squad. mark my words, this is gonna pop up on the hannity / limberger shows. just as soon as the official talking points come in.

o'neill. clark. ritter (the first time), wilson. plame, cbs. newsweek. deep throat.etc.

"oh he's bitter about not getting a job." bla,bla,bla.

and some people just keep on accepting whatever fodder is hand fed to them.

i don't. i even questioned a lot of what clinton did. so there...

and some people just keep on accepting whatever fodder is hand fed to them...

you're gonna have to do better than that, dude.

john kerry ? funny. the pentagon's records support kerry while nothing supports the sliming swiftboat vets for bitterness.

max cleland ? "french george" voinovich ?

santorum calls democrats nazis - all quiet on the rightern front.

durbin mentions nazis - out come the long knives

newsweek prints an "inflammatory" story - the right howls in agony over the endangerment of the troops ( they were perfectly safe before the story broke, right ?).

the new york post and the sun run front page photos of saddam in his fruit of the looms. 2 days in a row!!!. the me's are pissed off. and... - a mumbled "er, uh, umm.., bad,bad post" from scott mcclelan. then dead silence. but then ol' rupert the lad has friends in high places, don' 'e ?

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Who are they kidding?

US Spy plane crashes in "Southwest Asia"

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FreeDuck wrote:

Who are they kidding?

US Spy plane crashes in "Southwest Asia"

about 32% of the people ?

looking west to east;

afghanistan. irag. iran.

in artilliary, i'm told that the tactic is one over, one under and the rest in the middle.

maybe it's always been about iran.

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Just to be The Devil's Advocate for a moment, one could argue that we have been at war with Iran since they took over our Embassy in '79. Respecting the rights of diplomats is one of the hallmarks of civilization. Even Hitler respected the rights of diplomats.

That aside - I emphatically agree that open warfare with Iran would be the height of insanity.

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McGentrix wrote:

and some people just keep on accepting whatever fodder is hand fed to them...[/quote]

Yeah, they're called righties, rightwingers, Neo-Conservatives.

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Atkins wrote:

McGentrix wrote:
and some people just keep on accepting whatever fodder is hand fed to them...

Yeah, they're called righties, rightwingers, Neo-Conservatives.

I admit it, I do tend to hand feed some of you. It's the only way you understand... But, I only do it because I love each and every one of you.

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I miss the old evaluation system of abuzz.

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Atkins wrote:

I miss the old evaluation system of abuzz.

Why?

So you can "gig" someone with whom you disagree simply because they post something with which you disagree?

William Shakespeare could have posted to Abuzz and if it did not meet the requirements of the Abuzz Left or Right (mostly Left) he would have received straight "1's"

Such a device only works if there is a qualifying test for those who might evaluate postings. Not very effective if there are only 8 judges.

This is A2K, not Abuzz. There is no place for posters to express their displeasure with another member, unless they are capable of logical debate.

The ridiculous rating system , like everything else on Abuzz, was jobbable. Abuzz was a pioneer but it died because it allowed free reign to the perverse children among us.

Alas, it appears , of late, that the Abuzz virus has begun to infect A2K.

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Jim wrote:

Just to be The Devil's Advocate for a moment, one could argue that we have been at war with Iran since they took over our Embassy in '79. Respecting the rights of diplomats is one of the hallmarks of civilization.

Don't just stop there if you're playing devil's advocate, though. Go back to the 1953 Anglo-American covert coup, and overthrow of Dr. Mohammed Mossadegh, Iran's prime minister, and the installation of our stooge, the Shah of Iran.

Yep, "respecting the rights of diplomats is one of the hallmarks of civilization" sure sounds mighty lofty, but what about respecting the rights of a nation and a democratically elected prime minister? Or is it a lofty hallmark of civilization only insofar as it serves our own purposes (in this case control of Iran's oil industry for the Brits, and allayed communist paranoia for the US)? Beyond that, it merely becomes another hallmark of civilization: realpolitik.

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With Bush's flagging popularity he needs another war to resurrect his image. {if that is possible} Iran's obstinacy regarding nuclear development may be just the excuse needed to start one.
Neither the lack of funds, shortage of manpower or death of thousands is a deterrent to the supreme being that now inhabits, or should I say desecrates, the oval office.

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au1929 wrote:

With Bush's flagging popularity he needs another war to resurrect his image. {if that is possible} Iran's obstinacy regarding nuclear development may be just the excuse needed to start one.
Neither the lack of funds, shortage of manpower or death of thousands is a deterrent to the supreme being that now inhabits, or should I say desecrates, the oval office.

bullseye, dead center.

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More Information:

Alternet Mediaculture

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And more. Just trying to get some info gathered for the time when we finally hear about it from MSM.

Not sure about the sources, connections or accuracy, but the more info put together now, the more we will know when it's announced. The better we will understand any propaganda, misleads, and contortions. Call me a pessimist, but after Iraq...

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2003/3027ledeen_iran.html

Lots of names, groups and info that appears to lay the groundwork and identify major players/supporters/planners.

The next one is a llink to Senator brownbacks Iran Press Conference. And a very interesting comment in response via a letter of thanks to Sen. Brownback from what appears to be an active Iranian group in search of justice for humanitarian wrongs by the current Iranian regime. But if you look further, it's a group out of..... TEXAS? Is this another Chalabi?

http://www.iranianvoice.org/article821.html

And more evidence this may be something to watch:

http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/is_iran_next/

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i usually stay away from lerouche, but i've read a lot of these assertions before. there is a weird network of neo-cons that is constantly trying to stir the pot.

the heritage foundation

the american enterprise institute

jinsa

the committee for the liberation of iraq ( they got what they wanted. at least the war part. )

the u.s. committee for a free lebanon

the coalition for democracy in iran

freedom 4 iran

the project for the new american century......... seems to be the main hub between the assorted groups.

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http://www.tehrantimes.com/Description.asp?Da=6/26/2005&Cat=2&Num=007

and what are they saying in Tehran?

Quote:

World leaders congratulate Iran's president-elect

with a notable (as determined by the Tehran Times, not me) exception

Quote:

Iran is 'out of step' with region: U.S. State Department

Iran is "out of step" with a trend toward freedom and liberty in its region, the U.S. State Department said late Friday, after Ahmadinejad elected as president in Iran.

"With the conclusion of the election in Iran, we have seen nothing that dissuades us from our view that Iran is out of step with the rest of the region and the currents of freedom and liberty that have been so apparent in Iraq, Afghanistan and Lebanon," State Department spokeswoman Joanne Moore said.

"These elections were flawed from their inception by the decision of an unelected few to deny the applications of over a thousand candidates, including all 93 women," she said.

"We will judge the regime by its actions. In light of the way these elections were conducted, however, we remain skeptical that the Iranian regime is interested in addressing either the legitimate desires of its own people, or the concerns of the broader international community," Moore said.

They've got each other in their beady little sights.

Good luck.

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maybe the bush crowd would find the iranian elections more to their liking if the voters had dyed their fingers blue and run around wagging them for the cameras.

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Now there is word that Iran is harboring Al Qaeda operatives.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8330976/

Page three of the report mentions use of MEK to overthrow the Iranian government.

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gee, squinney. why wouldn't we want to support and fund mek ?

after all, doing the same with bin laden's mujahadin in afghanistan, the iraqi national congress, the kurds pkk did so much for us.

oh, wait. no it didn't.

i don't know why people keep following the cheneys, rumsfelds et,al around. these guys have been making the same bad plans for +/- thirty years. but they just keep turning up like a bad penny.

need to get some fresh blood in there.

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DontTreadOnMe wrote:

maybe the bush crowd would find the iranian elections more to their liking if the voters had dyed their fingers blue and run around wagging them for the cameras.

How long before Sharia completely destroys the popular movement in Iran? A year? Less? Any hopes Iranians had of trying to free themselves from the yokes of Islamic tyrany just went up in smoke.

Dyed fingers for democracy would have been great. Instead, we have more repressive Islamic law... Poor dumb slobs. I feel bad for them.

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