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Democrats electoral college strategy for 2020 presidential election.

 
 
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 20 Nov, 2019 01:38 pm
@Real Music,
Has Anti-Fa been alerted?
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Real Music
 
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Reply Wed 20 Nov, 2019 01:47 pm

1. Democrats cannot afford to become complacent and overconfidence.

2. If they do, Trump will be re-elected.

3. Democrats must stay alert and watchful.
Real Music
 
  2  
Reply Wed 20 Nov, 2019 02:14 pm
The two most important things for the democrats nominee to defeat Donald Trump:


1. Turn out (early voters) in massive record breaking numbers.

2. And winning the (battleground) states.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Wed 20 Nov, 2019 02:49 pm
@Real Music,
Its what Finney does. He takes a straight forward statement and twists is so out of shape no one recognizes it as the same statement. Normal people call it lying. Finney called it debating.
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revelette3
 
  4  
Reply Wed 20 Nov, 2019 03:37 pm
@Real Music,
Well, speaking of Bloomberg's help in the democrat cause:

Bloomberg to spend millions on voter registration campaign
Real Music
 
  3  
Reply Wed 20 Nov, 2019 09:13 pm
@revelette3,
1. Thank you for posting that link regarding Bloomberg plans of spending millions on voter registration campaign.

2. If Bloomberg follows through with his plans on spending his money to help the democrats, that will prove to be extremely helpful to the democrats.

3. Especially in the battleground states.

4. I am going to re-post your link along with the article attached to the link.
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Real Music
 
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Reply Wed 20 Nov, 2019 09:14 pm
Bloomberg to spend millions on voter registration campaign.


Published November 20, 2019


Quote:
Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is set to spend millions on a voter registration drive as he seriously considers entering the 2020 Democratic primary field.

Bloomberg is rolling out an estimated $15 million to $20 million to finance the registration campaign, which will target voters in five battleground states, according to The Associated Press. The hefty investment comes after the former mayor announced a $100 million online advertising campaign attacking President Trump in four general election swing states.

"Mike is taking the fight directly to Trump where it matters most, in general election battleground states," Bloomberg spokesman Jason Schechter told the AP. "He did it last week through a $100 million digital ad buy. He's doing it this week at the ballot box."

Schechter did not immediately respond to a request for comment from The Hill.

The voter registration effort, which will begin early next year, is set to target 500,000 voters from groups that traditionally support Democratic candidates, including African Americans, Latinos, Asians, young voters and those living in some rural communities. The drive will start in the states of Arizona, Michigan, North Carolina, Texas and Wisconsin but could expand to other states, according to the AP.

Trump won all five states in 2016, though Democrats are hoping to put up strong showings in all five and flip at least a few into their column next year.

"If Mike runs, we're going to try to do what we can to run two campaigns simultaneously," Bloomberg adviser Howard Wolfson told the AP.

"One campaign is a primary campaign - and there are a lot of great people in that contest and a lot of focus and activity around that," he added. "But at the same time, there's another campaign going on that the president has begun that ends in November that also needs to be engaged. And one of the arguments that we would make on behalf of Mike to primary voters: Is he is able to wage these two campaigns simultaneously - effectively and simultaneously?"

Bloomberg has filed paperwork to appear as a candidate in a small handful of Democratic primary races next year. Though he has yet to make an official decision to enter the field, he is expected to do so in the coming days.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/newselection2020/bloomberg-to-spend-millions-on-voter-registration-campaign/ar-BBX3NGT?ocid=spartanntp
Real Music
 
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Reply Wed 20 Nov, 2019 09:28 pm
@revelette3,
1. I hope and pray that other wealthy democrats get off the sideline and spend millions or hundreds of millions to help democrat candidates.

2. I am talking about helping the democrats in the Presidential race, Senate races, House races, Governor races, and state/local races.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 20 Nov, 2019 09:33 pm
@Real Music,
Quote:
1. Democrats cannot afford to become complacent and overconfidence.

What exactly are they confident in? That hate is contagious? They have not told anybody.
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Real Music
 
  3  
Reply Thu 21 Nov, 2019 12:08 pm

Should the democrats priority be to win back the Barack Obama states that Hillary Clinton lost?

https://able2know.org/topic/507812-1
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Reply Thu 21 Nov, 2019 12:28 pm
@Real Music,
Quote:
Should the democrats priority

The priority ought to be the citizens, which it clearly is not. Until they actually look like they give a **** they will not win them any states back.
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Real Music
 
  3  
Reply Sat 23 Nov, 2019 10:31 am
Pollsters Missed ‘Shy Trump’ Voters in 2016.
Will They Find Them This Time?



Published November 23, 2019


Quote:
Meetings of the American Association of Public Opinion Research (AAPOR) tend to be pretty staid affairs. But when members of the group gathered for a conference call at this time in 2016, the polling industry was experiencing a crisis of confidence.

Donald J. Trump had swept most of the Midwest to win a majority in the Electoral College, a shocking upset that defied most state-by-state polls and prognoses. An association task force, which was already working on a routine report about pre-election poll methodologies, was suddenly tasked with figuring out what had gone wrong.

“We moved from doing this sort of niche industry report to almost like more of an autopsy,” said Courtney Kennedy, the director of survey research at Pew Research Center, who headed the task force. “Something major just happened, and we have to really understand from A to Z why it happened.”

The group released its report the following spring. Today, with the next presidential election less than a year away, pollsters are closely studying the findings of that document and others like it, looking for adjustments they can make in 2020 to avoid the misfires of 2016.

“Polling is one of those things like military battles: You always re-fight the last war,” said Joshua D. Clinton, who co-directs the University of Vanderbilt’s poll and served on the AAPOR committee. The 2020 election “might have a different set of considerations,” he said, but pollsters have an obligation to learn from the last cycle’s mistakes.

By and large, nationwide surveys were relatively accurate in predicting the popular vote, which Hillary Clinton won by two percentage points. But in crucial parts of the country, especially in the Midwest, individual state polls persistently underestimated Mr. Trump’s support. And election forecasters used those polls in Electoral College projections that gave the impression Mrs. Clinton was a heavy favorite.

AAPOR’s analysis found several reasons the state polls missed the mark. Certain groups were underrepresented in poll after poll, particularly less educated white voters and those in counties that had voted decisively against President Barack Obama in 2012. Respondents’ unwillingness to speak honestly about their support for Mr. Trump may have also been a factor.

These and other issues could reappear in 2020, pollsters warn, if they’re not addressed directly.



Weighting’ by education

To make sure their results reflect the true makeup of the population, pollsters typically “weight” their data, adding emphasis to certain respondents so that a group that was underrepresented in the random sample still has enough influence over the poll’s final result. Polls typically weight by age, race and other demographic categories.

But some state-level polls in 2016 did not weight by education levels, therefore giving short shrift to less educated voters, who tend to be harder to reach.

This often understated Mr. Trump’s support, since he was markedly more popular than past Republican nominees among less educated voters — and noticeably less popular among those with higher degrees, who research suggests are more likely to participate in polls.

The AAPOR analysts found that many polls in swing states would have achieved significantly different results had they been weighted for education. This, in turn, would have noticeably decreased Mrs. Clinton’s lead in much-watched polling averages and forecasts of these states.

A Michigan State University poll that found Mrs. Clinton holding a 17-point lead in that state just before the election did not weight by education. If it had, her lead would have dropped to 10 points in that poll, the AAPOR researchers found — still a far cry from predicting Mr. Trump’s narrow victory there, but a significant change.

And a University of New Hampshire poll put Mrs. Clinton up by 16 points in that state on the eve of the election, though in the end she barely won it. That poll’s gap would have closed entirely if its analysts had weighted for education, according to the AAPOR report.

Some polling firms that did not weight by education in 2016 have since taken up the practice, but not all of them. Mark Blumenthal, the former head of polling at Survey Monkey and a member of the AAPOR task force, said that weighting by education ought to be accepted as necessary. “I think that’s a reasonable line to draw,” he said.



Shy Trump’ voters

A pre-election study by Morning Consult warned that wealthier, more educated Republicans appeared slightly more reluctant to tell phone interviewers that they supported Mr. Trump, compared with similar voters who responded to online polls.

Pollsters refer to this phenomenon as the “shy Trump” effect, or — in academic parlance — a form of “social-desirability bias.” Studies have affirmed that in races where a candidate or cause is perceived as controversial or otherwise undesirable, voters can be wary of voicing their support, especially to a live interviewer.

Charles Franklin, the director of the Marquette University Law School poll of Wisconsin voters, said he worried that the shy Trump effect had played a role in skewing the poll’s results away from Mr. Trump in 2016.

Mr. Franklin, who was a member of the AAPOR team, suggested how telephone interviewers might confront the issue with respondents next year: “When they indicate they’re undecided or maybe considering a third-party vote, maybe push people a little more on whether they could change their mind,” he said.

One polling firm that showed Mr. Trump narrowly leading in some of the most inaccurately polled states — Michigan, Pennsylvania and Florida, all of which he won — was Trafalgar Group, a Republican polling and consulting firm that uses a variety of nontraditional polling methodologies.

It sought to combat the shy Trump effect by asking respondents not only how they planned to vote but also how they thought their neighbors would vote — possibly offering Trump supporters a way to project their feelings onto someone else.

The AAPOR report posited that the neighbor question could help overcome shyness among Trump supporters, particularly in phone interviews. It “warrants experimentation in a broad array of contests,” the report said.



Who’s voting?

That was not the only way Trafalgar innovated. Polls typically use a formula based on past elections to determine which voters are likely to show up on Election Day. They then discard or devalue responses from those who seem less predisposed — typically those without much history of voting, or who don’t express much enthusiasm about politics.

Trafalgar used a generously inclusive model, with a particular eye toward less frequent voters whom Mr. Trump’s anti-establishment campaign had drawn in.

“With Trump, we saw in the primary how new people were being brought into the process, and so we widened the net of who we reached out to,” Robert C. Cahaly, a pollster at Trafalgar, said in an interview.

When the Census Bureau in 2017 released detailed voting information from the 2016 election, it revealed that turnout had surged in many counties that Mr. Obama had lost by 10 points or more in 2012 — particularly in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

It is a reminder that who voted in the previous election is not always a good indicator of who will vote the next time.

“This is where the art comes in, and it’s hard to know until it actually happens which approach is the best approach,” Mr. Clinton said, referring to how polling firms construct their likely-voter models.

The polls from 2016 make clear that finding a representative sample is both the hardest and the most important part of conducting an effective survey. This is not new knowledge for public-opinion professionals, but many said it was a lesson worth relearning.



Late deciders

Compounding all the other factors in 2016 was the simple fact that — in a race with two historically unpopular candidates — many voters didn’t reach a decision until just before Election Day.

In Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, between 13 and 15 percent of respondents in exit polls said they had decided in the last week of the campaign. Those voters broke for Mr. Trump by a wide margin; in Wisconsin, it was about 30 points.

Pew researchers also called back respondents of their pre-election polls and found that many had changed their minds and voted differently than they’d said they would, which is not uncommon. But these voters broke for Mr. Trump by a 16-point margin — a heavier tilt than in any other year on record.

So, in a volatile election, even a perfectly effective poll might not be able to gauge the outcome; a poll can only take the pulse of where voters’ feelings lie in a particular moment.

That points to a major source of agita for some observers of the 2016 election: electoral forecasts in the news media and elsewhere that used polling data to suggest Mrs. Clinton was highly likely to win. Most of them put her chances at somewhere between 70 and 99 percent.

“I’m not sure people understand how these probabilistic projections are produced or what they mean,” Gary Langer, a pollster who works with ABC News, said in an email. “I’d suggest that predicting election outcomes is the least important contribution of pre-election polls. Bringing us to a better understanding of how and why the nation comes to these choices is the higher value that good-quality polls provide.”

Election forecasters do not mean to convey absolute certainty. Just before Election Day, The New York Times’s Upshot forecast gave Mr. Trump a 15 percent chance of winning, and FiveThirtyEight’s model put his chances at 29 percent, indicating that a Republican win was not out of the question.

But the Princeton Election Consortium, which had predicted the 2012 results with striking accuracy, was more certain of a Clinton win, giving her a 99 percent chance in the days leading up to the election.

Sam Wang, a neuroscientist who runs the Princeton model, said in an email that in 2016 he had not factored in enough potential “systematic error” — a catchall variable that accounts for imperfections in individual polls. In 2016, he never set that variable higher than 1.1 percentage points, but in 2020 he plans to set it at two points.

“That will increase the uncertainty much more,” he said, “which will set expectations appropriately in case the election is close.”

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/pollsters-missed-shy-trump-voters-in-2016-will-they-find-them-this-time/ar-BBXcLDa?li=AAJUkZb&ocid=UE13DHP
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 23 Nov, 2019 03:46 pm
@Real Music,
Is this article the beginning of excuses for losing to Trump in 2020? It looks like it.
Real Music
 
  2  
Reply Sat 23 Nov, 2019 07:21 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Is this article the beginning of excuses for losing to Trump in 2020? It looks like it.

1. That is your opinion.

2. I am posting this article and this thread only as a warning to my fellow democrats.

3. In 2020, the democrats ground game better be on overdrive.

4. Especially getting out massive numbers of voters to vote early in the states that have early voting.

5. Especially in the battleground states.

6. Democrats need to remain vigilant and take notice.

7. Democrats cannot afford to become complacent and overconfidence.

8. If they do, Trump will be re-elected.

9. Democrats must stay alert and watchful.

10. Regarding television ads, mailings, and radio ads, I definitely believe the democrats nominee desperately need to advertise like mad in the battleground swing states. If the democrat don't advertise like mad in those state, I truly fear would cause them to lose those states. They cannot afford to take those states for granted the way they did the last time.


11. The two most important things for the democrats nominee to defeat Donald Trump:

a) Turn out (early voters) in massive record breaking numbers.
b) And winning the (battleground) states.


12. If Bloomberg follows through with his plans on spending his money to help the democrats, that will prove to be extremely helpful to the democrats.

13. Especially in the battleground states.

14. I hope and pray that other wealthy democrats get off the sideline and spend millions or hundreds of millions to help democrat candidates.

15. I am talking about helping the democrats in the Presidential race, Senate races, House races, Governor races, and state/local races.
Real Music
 
  1  
Reply Sat 23 Nov, 2019 07:53 pm
Bloomberg Threatens to Drop $500 Million 2020 Carpet Bomb.

The Democratic billionaire could transform the presidential race—whether he runs or not.


Published February 13, 2019


Quote:
With a net worth that hovers around $50 billion, Michael Bloomberg is by far the highest-rolling potential 2020 candidate, towering over President Donald Trump, and even self-declared person-of-means Howard Schultz. The former mayor hasn’t hesitated to throw his weight around, hinting that he might spend around $100 million to buy an advantage in the race, and shelling out donations to Democrats in the midterms. On Wednesday, however, Bloomberg upped the ante with a Politico report that he would spend at least $500 million in 2020 to defeat Trump—whether or not he runs.

Half a billion dollars is an ungodly amount by any metric. That’s roughly $175 million more than Trump spent in 2016, and outstrips the $129 million currently sitting in the president’s re-election war chest. And that might just be the beginning: “[$500 million] will get us through the first few months,” Bloomberg adviser Kevin Sheekey told Politico. “Mike spent $100 million in his last New York City election. And you can do the math as you think more broadly but New York City is 3 percent of the national population.”

As Democratic operatives briefed on Bloomberg’s operation told Politico, the billionaire philanthropist has earmarked said pile of money with two plans in mind. Plan A, obviously, is a presidential run as a Democrat. Plan B is bowing out of the race, but launching a massive parallel, data-driven campaign on behalf of the Democrats. According to internal polls, plan A could still pan out. “When people learn about his involvement in climate-change activism and gun safety, and when they learn that he’s not just a billionaire—but he came from a middle-class background and his dad never earned more than $6,000 a year, and you talk about the work he’s done on the ground and his philanthropy—Dem primary voters view him favorably,” said one Democrat familiar with the polling, adding that 80 percent of Democratic primary voters respond positively to Bloomberg’s biography.

Still, the chances that Bloomberg wins the Democratic nomination are slim. His multi-year flirtation with running for president has never exactly caught the public’s imagination. Even now, after dropping $100 million on midterm races and continuing to fund gun-control efforts, Bloomberg is a dark horse: according to RealClearPolitics, he polls an average 4.5 percent among Democratic candidates, with Joe Biden, his primary rival for the centrist vote, field-stripping him by double digits. And that number is sure to fall as the field expands. In an election year in which Democrats are focused on identity politics and debating whether they should abolish billionaires altogether, a 76-year-old white man with an eleven-figure net worth isn’t exactly a shoe-in.

That leaves plan B, which seems carefully calculated to earn Bloomberg maximum goodwill. After promoting his favored policies in the Democratic primary—including strict gun-control measures—Bloomberg could easily pass his $500 million apparatus on to the nominee. That he’s publicizing plan B at all is an indication he’s eager to avoid the label of Schultz-style spoiler. “[His] priority No. 1 is Trump doesn’t get re-elected in 2020,” a Bloomberg insider told my colleague Chris Smith earlier this month. “Obviously, who else is running is a part of that. What the polls say is a part of that. But I wouldn’t say there’s one thing he’s looking for to make his decision.” Ultimately, Bloomberg’s massive fortune gives him a layer of insulation: even if he drops out, he’ll earn bragging rights for launching a full-scale attack against the most unpopular president in the modern era.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/02/michael-bloomberg-500-million-presidential-campaign
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Reply Sat 23 Nov, 2019 08:02 pm
@Real Music,
Quote:
2. I am posting this article and this thread only as a warning to my fellow democrats.

That is good. Maybe your obsession will impress them.
Real Music
 
  3  
Reply Sat 23 Nov, 2019 08:29 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
That is good. Maybe your obsession will impress them.

1. Yes, I do hope that there are more than enough people out there who share my obsession of helping to get Democrats elected.

2. Yes, I do hope that there are more than enough people out there who share my obsession of defeating the Republicans.

3. Yes. I do hope that there are more than enough people out there who share my obsession of defeating Donald Trump.

4. Thank you for caring.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Reply Sat 23 Nov, 2019 08:40 pm
@Real Music,
Your welcome.
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livinglava
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 24 Nov, 2019 12:48 pm
@Real Music,
Real Music wrote:

Quote:
That is good. Maybe your obsession will impress them.

1. Yes, I do hope that there are more than enough people out there who share my obsession of helping to get Democrats elected.

2. Yes, I do hope that there are more than enough people out there who share my obsession of defeating the Republicans.

3. Yes. I do hope that there are more than enough people out there who share my obsession of defeating Donald Trump.

4. Thank you for caring.

Do you believe that Democrat totalitarianism would be all-inclusive democracy, including dissent, and not a party of social-control by means of economic control?

Or is it the social-control by means of economic control that you are for?
revelette3
 
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Reply Mon 25 Nov, 2019 07:27 am
@Real Music,
It's official, he announced his run yesterday.

I gotta say, as much as I hated his past policy of stop and frisk, and his favoring of rich people over everybody else (from what I read) in NY, he would have very good chance of getting more republicans who might be sick of Trump but do not like any of the democrat field. Also, his money could keep up with Trump's in the general election. I would just be afraid, he wouldn't help the middle class or the poor once he was in office. He is in favor of gun control and climate change and has really given a lot to charities. And he is a self made man. However, I doubt he will survive the democrat primary, unless things drastically change in the next year. He does not seem to me the ideal candidate in a normal times for democrats because of his past policies.

Moreover, he has a chance of splitting the moderate vote.
 

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