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Is Joe Biden sick?

 
 
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 21 Sep, 2019 10:55 pm
@Sturgis,
Whatever you say.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Sat 21 Sep, 2019 10:57 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
Bernie's talking sense...


You mean absurdly out there statements such as wiping out more than eighty billion dollars of people's medical debt?
How nice of him to increase the budget deficit. Or will he be cutting programs or attempting to find ways for the top tier income people to pay a huge tax increase?
(on tax increase, it would be more intelligent for these candidates to: a) Keep their yaps shut until after being elected

AND.....

b) Once elected work with both Houses to close the danged loopholes which exist for the wealthy.

Sturgis
 
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Reply Sat 21 Sep, 2019 10:59 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
Biden is insane


Who isn't? Especially amongst people who run for President.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 22 Sep, 2019 12:57 am
@Sturgis,
We’ve been conditioned to accept a weird life-altering debt for simply getting medical care. People in Germany and England don’t allow their governments to do this to them.

Yes, Bernie is the only one who makes sense.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 22 Sep, 2019 01:28 am
@maxdancona,
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/9/13/1885314/-What-the-hell-was-it-with-Biden-s-reparations-word-salad-answer-and-his-scoffing-at-the-question
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-slavery-record-players_n_5d7aff41e4b03b5fc880b4b0?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABNKTtmWr8PU_OUXedrRXUHk_wmjCdx2IRcIVarKK_YcWpQiD8P8Qr5IQveH9Mr2Rjq_UpjprxHgtaJtKs__p9uSJ1wgniCvFwxYRfOXitBkNWal7cQJVQ9aQEg6jzV8-Hzm0MIj4MaDYvpKKZjgDbedGcdRqOeYPR3N8IZgokkY
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/13/20864336/joe-biden-record-player-nurse-home-visit

Do you still like Biden? The man can't answer simple questions. When he gets asked something specific, he dodges the question and goes on tangents about things that have nothing to do with the original question.

I am trying to figure out what the heck he's talking about.

He reminds me a little bit of Ben Carson. Carson gave weird non-straightforward answers to questions during presidential debates.
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 22 Sep, 2019 01:36 am
@JGoldman10,
Apt comparison.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 22 Sep, 2019 03:25 am
@JGoldman10,
JGoldman10 wrote:

Biden needs to get some speech therapy. I hope he does.


It's a bit late in the day for that. If speech therapy hasn't worked by the time he's 78 it's not going to work now.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 22 Sep, 2019 03:27 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

We’ve been conditioned to accept a weird life-altering debt for simply getting medical care. People in Germany and England don’t allow their governments to do this to them.


No we don't, and it wasn't an issue when you voted for Dubya, but now it is.
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 22 Sep, 2019 03:33 am
@izzythepush,
Like a lot of Americans, I didn’t even know an alternative was possible then.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 22 Sep, 2019 03:52 am
@Lash,
I wasn't talking about "a lot of Americans" I was talking about you.

Ostriching doesn't excuse your behaviour. We got UHC after WW2 when we were bankrupt. America had not such problems but decided to go for McCarthyism instead.

How were you so unaware of this?

I mean you claim to be politically active but whenever your previous political affiliations are mentioned you were someone completely different, someone who didn't seem to know what politics was.

Are you seriously saying that at the beginning of the 21st Century you were completely unaware that most developed countries had UHC?
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 22 Sep, 2019 06:41 am
@izzythepush,
I didn’t know it was virtually free until, I’d estimate, within the last ten years.

I’m going to make it very clear that I don’t feel bad in the least that I was unaware of what healthcare in the U.K. looked like. If you’re honest, you’ll admit you didn’t know quite how awful our healthcare situation was either, until it was spelled out here.

izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 22 Sep, 2019 06:45 am
@Lash,
I did. We were told about how awful American health care was whenever anyone complained about the NHS.

As long as I can remember American health care has been used as an example of the very worst practice and something to avoid at all costs.

Most countries are more outward looking than America anyway. You can always stump an American with a Geography question.
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 22 Sep, 2019 07:14 am
@izzythepush,
I won’t disagree about the geography. On the whole, my opinion is that Europeans are more intelligent than Americans. I think religious dogma plays a part in it, and being so isolated for such a long time from other cultures is another reason.

I’m certainly a product of those factors, but I’ve always attempted to reach out if my little spot and learn more.

I’m not ashamed of who I am, but I do wish I’d been able to travel more.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 22 Sep, 2019 07:35 am
@Lash,
I don't think intelligent is the right word, we're certainly more aware of the rest of the World but there's various factors involved.

I may be repeating myself here, but look at television. How many programmes do you watch that aren't American? I bet it's less than the amount of programmes I watch that aren't British.

If all your stimuli are inward looking it's no wonder. Your programmes are so successful they're sold all over the world and often make up at least 50% if not more of the scheduling.

So of course non Americans know a lot about America. You don't have to get off the sofa to find out a lot about America. That doesn't make us more intelligent.
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 22 Sep, 2019 08:09 am
@izzythepush,
I think there’s a social intelligence that goes with knowing about different cultures and different religions that makes people more open to trying new things—and a lot of learning takes place in those spaces. Europe has so many cultures so close to one another that you’re saturated with knowledge and a degree of comfort with differences. You aren’t as fearful of change, progress.

Our formation seems to have lead to uniformity at first, and as different people came in, staking a claim, for the most part, suspicion and striving for dominance was the prevailing mood.

Maybe Europe was like that a thousand years ago. Maybe settling a giant piece of land always starts like that—and you seem superior socially because you’ve had a lot more time than we have had to sort it out.

Over here, dogmatic religious beliefs actually make a lot of people fearful of universities where they may find out facts that make them aware that their religion is faulty. You can ably see in these pages people who equate Bernie Sanders’ democratic socialism with communism and they screech against it like someone was skinning them with a carrot peeler. And those brainless idiots keep us in this corporate torture chamber.

This is what I mean.

izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 22 Sep, 2019 08:29 am
@Lash,
Unfortunately there's a lot in Britain who don't fit that description at all. The Little Englanders behind Brexit don't, not in the slightest.
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revelette1
 
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Reply Sun 22 Sep, 2019 08:40 am
@Lash,
Did you close your eyes and ears when Hillary Clinton first tried get UHC way back in the 90's and the subsequent health care debate?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_health_care_plan_of_1993

Really weak excuse for your past support of republicans when they have been resisting any kind of government help with health care for years. You would have done better to say, it was part of your road to Damascus change.
revelette1
 
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Reply Sun 22 Sep, 2019 08:47 am
@izzythepush,
I never noticed any stuttering, but then again, I rarely turn the volume up, usually read the caption and don't wear my hearing aides as much as I should.

Unfortunately I agree with Edgar, if Biden was elected in 2020, he would be a figurehead. Still would be an improvement on what we got now.
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 22 Sep, 2019 09:04 am
@revelette1,
You misread. I didn’t offer an excuse for being a Republican.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 22 Sep, 2019 09:36 am
@revelette1,
To be honest I've not seen a lot of footage of him. I was speaking as someone who has a stutter, although mine is very much under control it's something that never goes away.
 

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