@jespah,
jespah wrote:
And I also submit to you, if your bras are this uncomfortable, you may be wearing the wrong size. Something like 2/3 of all women do. Go to Nordstrom's or another high-end department store and get properly fitted by someone who knows what they're doing.
Get fitted.
I gotta be honest jespah, I've gone this route twice, and was tragically disappointed at the results both times. I did it once at a high end store like Nordstroms, and another time at a specialty lingerie shop that has been around forever. Just now I looked them up on yelp, and they get 5 stars with with over 300 reviews and women going on about how great getting fitted was.
Both times I was fitted by people who had obviously done this a long time.
Both times they came up with a band width and cup size that made me stare at them like this...

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I said, that's not going to work, those numbers are totally too large. Of course they knew better, and brought me several bras of different brands to try on.
Just as I knew they would, all the bras were literally falling off me as far as the band. In addition the cup size was a joke. I could have stuffed half a box of kleenex in each cup and they still could have been too big.
I looked like an adolescent girl trying on her mothers underwear.
Once at home I took my own measurements the way they say you should, and came up with the same numbers as the bra fitters did.
But somehow it doesn't translate to how it ends up on my body.
It wasn't like the bras I was already wearing were so uncomfortable, I just wondered if I could get that Perfect Fit.
Finally I just went to the store on a day I was in a really good mood, after eating a nice big breakfast, and tried on bras for what seemed like hours. Different brands fit differently, so I was taking identical items in different sizes and cups, cross referencing them, just keeping my mind on what I was doing, and finally found a style/brand/size that was really good, and bought a bunch of them. If I were a drinker I would have gone home afterwards and gotten really loose.
I'm not a strange shape or anything either. You just have to do what works for you.
I've mentioned Genie Bras because when I was first starting to sell on ebay, I managed to score a whole bunch of them at a ridiculous price, and they were selling like hotcakes online.
When I decided to move away from that product and concentrate on something else, I had like a dozen of them left over in my size, so I just kept them for myself. I hadn't even tried one on before.
Once I did, I never went back. Sure they're not much to look at, but who cares? They're under your clothes, they support, and they feel soft and good.
Honestly, I don't know why bras have to be such torture devices....oh wait....sex appeal....yeah.
I don't know if fashion mags still do this, but I remember this whole thing of "Under your work clothes, you'll feel so feminine and sexy, etc"
Are men musing on how under their clothes they are just so manly?