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De Stijl!! What style of art do you favor and why?

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2005 01:41 am
Before the group of the 'Blaue Reiter' became famous, it was "Die Brücke' (The Bridge), an expressionist art movement.

Due to the 100th anniversary of the Die Brücke, there's are or have been some exhibitions recently all over the country.
(During the Lippstadt meeting, we visited one in Münster [Kirchner, Heckel, Schmidt-Rottluff, Nolde etc].)

There are a couple of Blaue Reiter paintings in this museum as well - I'm always impressed by the famous, legendary wall painting "Paradise", painted by both Marc and Macke, origianally in their studio/apartment in Bonn.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2005 10:11 am
http://www.arken.dk/medialib/image/mediaitem2179.jpg
Nudes in the Open...Karl Rottluff... Forgot entire name---will fix soon.

Anyhoo, a member of Der Blaue Reiter group.

Osso and Walter have piqued my interest. I think this may develop into one of my favorite periods/styles. These were brilliant people.


The "Masters" were incredibly gifted and very representational--but this use of color and expressionism.... eez gut.

What was going on socially and politically in the 20's in Germany? I don't know much about that period.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2005 10:13 am
Schmidt-Rottluff was a member of 'Die Brücke', not 'Blaue Reiter'.

Lash wrote:
What was going on socially and politically in the 20's in Germany? I don't know much about that period.


Both, Die Brücke and the Blaue Reiter group were founded long before the 20's (several of the main members actually died in WW1).

Is your question realted to art or just asked generally?
(In the 20's, there was the Weimar Republic. the first democracy in Germany. And the social situation was quite similar to elswhere in Europe.)

After WW1, "Die Neue Sachlichkeit" (e.g. paintings by Otto Dix and George Grosz) showed the disillusionment following the war.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2005 10:25 am
Well, I had my dates wrong. There is often some social or political event or backdrop, which gives life to a new art movement--or at least that's what I think presently.

I was curious about the catalyst for the two groups we've been discussing.

But, you're correct. I just read a narrative about the timeline of the groups. It started closer to 1905...

Do you think social and political factors give birth to artistic movements?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2005 10:34 am
I don't know ....

Quote:
Expressionism can also be seen as a permanent tendency in Germanic and Nordic art from at least the European Middle Ages, particularly in times of social change or spiritual crisis, and in this sense it forms the converse of the rationalist and classicizing tendencies of Italy and later of France.

More specifically, Expressionism as a distinct style or movement refers to a number of German artists, as well as Austrian, French, and Russian ones, who became active in the years before World War I and remained so throughout much of the interwar period.

source: Britannica
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2005 10:40 am
Thanks for your information, Walter. Feel free to drop off additional stuff anytime...impressions or facts or art.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2005 10:45 am
Die Brücke - Brücke museum

Blaue Reiter (by Tate)
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2005 10:53 am
Oh yes. Very good historical narrative with clickable links to art. Great link.

I like this. Dr Rosa Shapira by Schmidt-Rottluff

http://www.tate.org.uk/collection/N/N06/N06248_8.jpg
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2005 11:12 am
Christian Rohlfs, Emil Nolde, Hans Kaiser, Karl Schmidt-Rottluff and especially the expressionist Willhelm Morgner had worked in our county town Soest.

Such, Schnidt-Rottluff's 'Soest Cathedral' (original in Münster museum) impresses me most :wink:

http://195.248.137.196/cmspools/pool-33/20050110/2005-01-10-O1FNR4HU9a1.JPG
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2005 11:19 am
Lovely! The vivid colors! And, it is an actual place? Still standing?
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boomerang
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2005 11:23 am
My favorite painter is John Singer Sargent. Part old master, part impressionist, really unclassifiable.

Sargent is the reason I became a portrait photographer.

Here are a couple of my favorites:

http://www.artchive.com/artchive/s/sargent/sargent_daughters.jpg

http://www.artchive.com/artchive/s/sargent/lady_agnew.jpg
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2005 11:25 am
Lash wrote:
And, it is an actual place? Still standing?


http://www.army.mod.uk/img/gutersloh/St%20Patrokli%20-%20Soest.jpg

Roman Catholic cathedral (in reality just a parish church), founded in the 10th century by Bruno, brother of Otto the Great (the present building was erected in the 12th century). Said to be with its very original facade one of the noblest ecclesiastical monuments of Germany.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2005 12:12 pm
A few links of works by painters in my old calendar... though not the exact paintings -

Alexei Javlensky
Wassily Kandinsky
another Kandinsky
Gabriele Munter

I think Macke and Marc were in there too..


Hmmm, Lash, you might check out the Fauves ..
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2005 01:08 pm
This weekend, there was an auction in Berlin, with the highest ever results in Germany (for the Beckmann):


http://www.villa-grisebach.de/neu/kataloge/Kat_125/Bilder3/Los_34.jpg
Emil Nolde "Philister", 1.5 million Euros


http://www.villa-grisebach.de/neu/kataloge/Kat_125/Bilder3/Los_21.jpg
Ludwig Kirchner, "Halbakt mit erhobenen Armen", 2.1 million Euros



http://www.villa-grisebach.de/neu/kataloge/Kat_125/Bilder3/Los_54.jpg
Max Beckmann , "Anni (Mädchen mit Fächer)", 3.9 million Euros
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2005 01:31 pm
Another Nolde -
http://www.nolde-stiftung.de/englisch.htm
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2005 01:33 pm
Not to skip over Boomer's mention of Sargent, who is also one of my favorite painters, though not so much to my "gut" as some others.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2005 01:41 pm
and veering from the Blaue Reiter path a bit - I'll post this one while I am thinking about it, Turner's Music Party:

http://www.bestpriceart.com/painting/?image=turner22.jpg&tc=cgfa

I had scanned a photo of this a year or two ago and posted that on Vivien's ten favorite paintings thread, but I lost track of the scan (I had put it on an intermediate site, and then deleted that, apparently not saving it to my own files.) That image was - to my memory - somewhat lighter. JLNobody may remember it, as I think he also liked the painting at the time.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2005 01:47 pm
Here's another coloration -
has anyone seen the original painting?

also, this link can be followed, I think, to several clickable thumbnail photos of other Turner paintings.. including one I'd forgotten, Interior at Petworth.

http://www.artprints-on-demand.co.uk/noframes/turner/music_party.htm



edit to add a piece about Petworth. with remarks about Turner and the painting -
http://travel.guardian.co.uk/activities/culture/story/0,7447,709574,00.html
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2005 01:51 pm
When you want to see painters/pictures in a timeline, a rather good site with a really good selection of art and artists is CGFA - A Virtual Art Museum.






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boomerang
 
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Reply Sun 5 Jun, 2005 04:01 pm
I guess if I had to name the "school" or "style" that gets me in the gut I would have to say it is what is collectively known as "Byzantine Icons".

They were really created over a period of almost a thousand years and most of the early ones were destroyed in the Iconoclastic Controvery, which itself lasted nearly a hundred years.

I've always been fascinated by these icons. Not only are they extraordinarily beautiful they are such a reflection of such a particular place at such a particular time. They really merge European and Asian art styles. Christian imagery has not yet become completely caucasian. And pageantry has yet to take over. The images are so simple and eloquent that they speak even to me, a non-Christian.


The archangle Michael
http://www.culture.gr/2/21/215/21505/215051/2150513/00/lb119g1.jpg

Madonna and child
http://www.culture.gr/2/21/215/21505/215051/2150513/00/l119h11a.jpg

The Prophet Elijah
http://www.culture.gr/2/21/215/21505/215051/2150513/00/l119h19.jpg
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