Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 11:04 am
NewSoul wrote:
Setanta,

Je ne l'ai pas fait expret [exprés]. Cela fait trop longtemps que je n'ai pas pratique' [d'habitude, on dit travailler pour exprimer l'usage d'une langue étrangère pour se rendre habile] le Francais. Mais sache [saches] que j'ai etudie' la litterature Francais en au lyce'e Francais [on se sert de miniscule--français, et non pas Français]. Le vrai francais mais pas le quebecois [québecois . . . et on dit, d'habitude, le français québecois] lol parce que je pense que le quebecois a ete' influence' par l ' anglais [l'anglais n'est pas si fort en le français québecois--et ça se voit en tout cas]. Ma me're est francaise en plus. JE peux meme parler le Cefran de Paris, le Verlan si tu connais.

Michael (a few corrections added)


I did not learn French in Québec. I also do not purport to be an expert in the language. Nevertheless, i've found quite a few errors here. It's not a big deal, but i do suggest that you don't advertize yourself as either an interpreter or a translator without a good deal more study.

EDIT: The French spoken in French Canada is actually quite an interesting study, and it is a false assumption that it has been much influenced by English. The French had been in Canada 150 years before the English conquest, and apart from a few lynchings and burnings of their farms when they did play nice quiet peasants for the Anglo Protestant Horse Aristocracy, they were left pretty much alone by the conquering horde. It was only after 1867 that it became even slightly important for the average French Canadian to learn to understand English. Even today, there are millions of French Canadians who get from one end of the day to the other without speaking, or hearing spoken, a single word of English. How i envy them.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 11:15 am
And by the by, don't "tutois" me . . . you don't know me that well . . .
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 11:16 am
Noddy24 wrote:
Quote:
So if Christians don't care if the bible get flushed on toilet that means that they don't really care about its teachings.



So speaks another human who confuses the letter and the spirit.

Exactly!

Why worry about paper? Christ isn't confined therein. Nor does flushing any book inflict anything on him or his followers.

The crucial point.
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NewSoul
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 11:56 am
Setanta,

Je n'ai jamais dis que j'etais un interprete mais je ne vous ai pas cache' le fait que je suis moitie' Francais et que j'ai vecu bon nombres d'annee's dans un pays francophone ou le Francais est la langue officielle. Je ne sais pas si tu connais l'Ecole Polytechnique de France et bien c'est bien la bas ou j'ai eu mon premier Diplome d'Ingenieur d'Etat apre's avoir fait mes Math-Sup & Math-Spe' au lyce'e Henry-IV. Vous ne me connaissez pas aussi.

Je n'ai gue're ete' irrespectueux envers votre personne. J'ai eu l'habitude de tutoyer comme tout Francais en France d'ailleurs .

c'est finit le temps de l'Aristocratie en France mais je vais vous vouvoyer comme vous l'aviez souligne'.

Michael
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 11:59 am
Bon, il y a, donc, rien plus à dire . . .
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neologist
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 12:54 pm
If you flush anything as large as a bible or koran down the toilet, you should be prepared for the consequences. The god of bottlenecks will bring you a flush flood. BTW, Joe Sixpack requests that you write only English. He's not real smart like WE are. (HAARRUMMPH!)
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squinney
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 01:06 pm
neologist wrote:
If you flush anything as large as a bible or koran down the toilet, you should be prepared for the consequences...


What I would do to have back all the money I spent on plumbers due to Power Rangers. Can't imagine more "power" than those guys being flushed. Very Happy
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NewSoul
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 01:15 pm
Setanta,

Vous voulez dire : "plus rien a dire". lol

Est ce que vous etes du Quebec ?


Michael
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 01:25 pm
Has anyone considered that the Gitmo prisoners were unaware of the limitations of indoor plumbing and that threats substituted for action?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 01:28 pm
Au fait, on dire: il n'y a rien plus à dire . . .

Je vous ai déjà dit que je ne suis pas québecois . . .
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NewSoul
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 03:05 pm
Il n'y a "plus rien" a dire mais pas "rien plus"


Michael
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 03:06 pm
You think your way, and i'll think mine. Given your previous performance, there is no reason for anyone to consider you an expert on the French language.
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NewSoul
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 03:11 pm
lol Setanta, don't be so stubborn, I was not correcting your French, you started first. Anyway, I didn't correct stuff like " on dire " because I know that you meant " on dit " . I know that you are smart but there are smart people around you too. Sometimes you need to listen to what others have to say and not just contradict everything.

Michael
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 03:16 pm
Your contention that i "contradict everything" is a piece of laughable absurdity from someone who runs into every religion thread and tries to push his newest sprititual hysteria down everyone else's throat . . .

You need to get a grip, both about your command of French, and your spiritual "superiority" . . .
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kickycan
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 03:19 pm
Oooh, are we going to get to see a real live duel here, French-style!?
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 03:21 pm
goodfielder wrote:
I don't think the pastor would worry, it's just a book. The Bible is always just a book to Christians, it's not an object of itself worthy of veneration (I think). As opposed to Muslims who believe that the Qu'ran is actually an artificat in Heaven and should not be descrated as it's not - in their eyes, hearts and minds - "just a book". That's the difference. The pastor knows that, he isn't stupid, he's just a bigot.


Hmmm - that is interesting on a purely ethical level.

Did Jesus mean "You must treat others in the way YOU would like to be treated - whether that is the way THEY would like to be treated or not."

or

Did he mean: "Your obligation is to have as much regard for the feelings of others as you have for your own and treat them with the care and respect that you desire to be treated with."

The latter would imply that, if following christian doctrine, one has regard for the way one's words and behaviour impact on the other/s in question.

My take would be the second - therefore, though the bible may be flushable sans emotional impact for christians, they ought, if they are good christians, to consider the reactions of the other, not how they would react in the same circumstances.


To follow the first means, for example, that, if one were masochistic, one might consider it christian to inflict great pain on others, because that is what one would have them do unto one.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 03:24 pm
neologist wrote:
If you flush anything as large as a bible or koran down the toilet, you should be prepared for the consequences. The god of bottlenecks will bring you a flush flood. BTW, Joe Sixpack requests that you write only English. He's not real smart like WE are. (HAARRUMMPH!)


Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Depends how you flush it.

I believe the method of choice is tearing the pages out and flushing them.
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NewSoul
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 03:46 pm
Setanta,

I have conveyed the message. I never asked you or anybody else to become Muslim. Many here wanted to hear what I had to say; maybe someone will take my advice and read before making any wrong assumptions. If you believe that we are here for no reason I believe that we are here for a purpose. You never know!!! If there will be a trial and severe punishment at the end then make sure you don't blame yourself for not taking the time to look things up before taking any decision.

Are you 100% sure that there is no GOD because I am 100% that GOD exist. Don't just say that you are 100% sure, you should convince your own self about the decision you made in your life.

If you wanna be 100% sure confident that GOD does not exist you should read and use your free will to choose the right way for yourself and not just follow what others say about GOD.

Michael


Michael
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 03:53 pm
Well Michael Michael, you may feel that this is what you've done, but a good many others here feel differently, and i've been PM'd on the subject, only to point out that i'm neither responsible for your rant nor able to explain it.

I'm sure many will come to you, to sit at your feet and imbibe of your profound and sagacious spirit. I wish you and them well.
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NewSoul
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 04:23 pm
Setanta,

The French say that Telling the Truth does not Hurt.

Also, having different opinions than others does only good.
I believe that Tolerance is what we need. I can tolerate you the way you are because you have your own freedom of will but why can't you tolerate me and why all this Anger ?

I also believe that we all have things to learn from others , because nobody was born knowledgeable. We all woke up in this world knowing nothing and it is the interaction with others and our different experiences in life that made us different and educate us.

However, we should be smart and find out why we are here for and who put us here.We can't just give up and not answer these questions.

Did anybody ever look at the way our bodies are shaped and not knowing what to say?

What if we had 10 legs instead of 2 ?

Why do we all have the same engines inside our bodies that able us to breath and live if we all came out of an explosion?

Why Water that come from the sky is the essential key of life in Earth?

... and many other questions necessary to be answered



Michael
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