Turning PBS into another propaganda tool

rayban1 wrote:

Hell yes........we intend turning PBS into a Republican Propaganda machine and our next targets are, Liberal academia by forcing equal hiring of conservative professors and then the total destruction of the most dangerous organization in America........the ACLU

Ray, that might be funny if we weren't seeng such a concerted effort to do just that. Listen to the RW talk show hosts sometime. They aren't kidding.

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parados wrote:

rayban1 wrote:
Hell yes........we intend turning PBS into a Republican Propaganda machine and our next targets are, Liberal academia by forcing equal hiring of conservative professors and then the total destruction of the most dangerous organization in America........the ACLU

Ray, that might be funny if we weren't seeng such a concerted effort to do just that. Listen to the RW talk show hosts sometime. They aren't kidding.

I know......that's why I'm laughing. Twisted Evil

The American people have spoken and they demand it.

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blueveinedthrobber wrote:

rayban1 wrote:
Hell yes........we intend turning PBS into a Republican Propaganda machine and our next targets are, Liberal academia by forcing equal hiring of conservative professors and then the total destruction of the most dangerous organization in America........the ACLU

I can't believe a well informed geenyus like you isn't aware that Congress did a turn around on this and has given PBS back their funds due to the outcry from ALL sensible Americans. Sensible being the operative word of course.

I was referring to the appointment of Pat Harrison as the new CEO. Hell even I wanted the restoration of funds.........I like PBS.......It not only has some great programs, it's not eaten up with disgusting viagra and duche product commercials. If cleverly handled, it could change some minds in the "right" direction. :wink:

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rayban1 wrote:

I was referring to the appointment of Pat Harrison as the new CEO. Hell even I wanted the restoration of funds.........I like PBS.......It not only has some great programs, it's not eaten up with disgusting viagra and duche product commercials. If cleverly handled, it could change some minds in the "right" direction. :wink:

This disingenuousness really suits you, Rayban. It perfectly compliments your tangents, your avoidance of pointed questions.

You've inadvertently pointed out a truism. ["Damn", says Ray, when am I gonna learn to keep my big mouth shut?"] This whole process, as many have pointed out to you and others is being "handled", although 'cleverly' isn't a word you'd want to apply to Mr Tomlinson's machinations.

Pointed Questions to Rayban:
1) Why would you be pleased about rampant cronyism being used to correct a problem that all polls say doesn't exist but you're not bothered by the pointed establishment of conservative shows?

2) One small further question; if you're so all fired fair and balanced, why haven't we heard boo from you about ensuring balance for these new conservative shows?

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Pointed Questions to Rayban:
1) Why would you be pleased about rampant cronyism being used to correct a problem that all polls say doesn't exist but you're not bothered by the pointed establishment of conservative shows?

Actually I've just recently decided to drop any pretence of fair and balanced with you libs........you don't deserve it. I now want to state that I am ecstatic about the appointment of a loyal conservative as the CEO of PBS. I stated earlier(in a joking manner) that I would be happy to see PBS and NPR turned into progaganda machines. I now am dropping the "joking manner" and now say that I fervently hope to see public broadcasting turned into a conservative platform.......only I want it done with same insidious cleverness which liberals have employed in the past. Is this talk plain enough?

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2) One small further question; if you're so all fired fair and balanced, why haven't we heard boo from you about ensuring balance for these new conservative shows?

See reply to one above Laughing

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rayban1 wrote:

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Pointed Questions to Rayban:
1) Why would you be pleased about rampant cronyism being used to correct a problem that all polls say doesn't exist but you're not bothered by the pointed establishment of conservative shows?

Actually I've just recently decided to drop any pretence of fair and balanced with you libs........you don't deserve it.

Well, at least this once, I must commend you on your honesty, Ray, but you're not telling us anything new. We've all known for some time that fair and balanced is not what you are.

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I am shocked, shocked I tell you to learn that rayban makes no pretense of caring about a fair and balanced society. Hey, he's from another time, and the Eisenhower years, although trying to make a comeback, will not succeed. That's the good news.

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rayban1 wrote:

Actually I've just recently decided to drop any pretence of fair and balanced with you libs........you don't deserve it. I now want to state that I am ecstatic about the appointment of a loyal conservative as the CEO of PBS. I stated earlier(in a joking manner) that I would be happy to see PBS and NPR turned into progaganda machines. I now am dropping the "joking manner" and now say that I fervently hope to see public broadcasting turned into a conservative platform.......only I want it done with same insidious cleverness which liberals have employed in the past. Is this talk plain enough?

Don't conservatives already have propaganda in the form of talk radio and "Hannity and Colmes"?

I've had enough with right wing politics.

Over here in the UK, ever since the left-wing Labour Party started adopting ever increasing right wing policies we have ended up with what is effectively a one party state.

The Liberal Democrats (that's the full name of their party) have never been elected into power. They always come in third in elections, thanks to the two major parties calling a vote for the Lib Dems a wasted vote.

The Conservatives have had nothing but ineffective leaders for a long time, and some of their policies have become somewhat racist and even more right wing in order for them to appear different from Labour.

So, thanks to right wing politics, democracy has effectively been stifled in our country. It isn't quite dead, but let's face it, the next Government will be a Labour Government unless the Conservatives get their act together (which won't happen if Labour continue their left-right wing policies).

And rayban1, your way of putting everything in black and white is abhorrent. Not everyone can be neatly classified as Conservative or liberal. Some liberals will have some conservative ideals. Some conservatives will have some liberal ideals.

Most people fall between the two extremes and to ignore otherwise is just idiotic.

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Guys. Reasoning, reliance on factual and careful analyses, historical analogies, even reference to fundamental principles laid down by the founders will be of no use here.

It is instructive to consider where rayban's ideas have taken him. He is applauding control of mass media by a single political party. This is a basic fascist or totalitarian stance and policy.

It is equally instructive to consider how extremist is any party which would set out to achieve such an end. This is the territory of Soviet Communist or North Korean repression of dissenting views and voices. It is deeply and dangerously anti-democratic. It is profoundly anti-American.

Discussing this matter with rayban or some of the others here will protect us not a whit. It is delusional to consider that it might. Raise our voices here, yes, that will at least keep the values of liberty and freedom held up for others to remember, and to help them keep their compass in the direction of what America and western liberty has always stood for. But it isn't nearly enough to keep us free.

Link up with other activists in your neighborhoods and districts. Phone your representatives...phone them weekly. Write letters to him/her and to the papers in your city. Get your friends to help. Here's a place you can start... http://mediamatters.org/handsoff/

Fascist 'government's ALWAYS seek to control the media...ALWAYS. That is a primary means of identifying them. Governments who truly value freedom and democratic rule realize they cannot move to seek such control.

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blatham wrote:

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Discussing this matter with rayban or some of the others here will protect us not a whit.

It is crucial to keep up a dialogue with rayban et al. Making them "out" themselves is the only way I know of tracking how they think and how confident they feel.

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Phone your representatives...phone them weekly.

My US representative is an ex CIA agent, That was one of the points he emphasized running for office. Any suggestions?

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acq

Yes. Phone and write anyway. As beholden as these fellows are to their party and ideology, they are moved profoundly by the threat of public opinion holding them in disfavor.

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I am not so sure that people are going to respond to the threat of a conservative CEO being the chairman or whatever of PBS in the same way as they did the funding. For some reason things like that just don't register too well.

But if they go and start changing the programs into these conservative religious programs, I think then people will respond. Despite Rayban1's outlook people are starting to see through all this conservative crap that has been sweeping through everything these last couple of years. Fox news ratings have not been rising as much as they have been and even been sliding down some.

http://www.newshounds.us/2005/05/18/fox_news_in_ratings_free_fall.php

If the ratings start to fall, then PBS will probably fire the new CEO person.

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TO: ALL LIBERALS ON THIS FORUM

Not only do we intend taking over PBS and making it a conservative news platform but our next targets are: LIBERAL ACADEMIA by forcing the hiring of an equal number of conservtive professors at EVERY university which accepts federal money and then........we will advocate the total destruction of the ACLU.......the most dangerous organization in America.
( I intend starting a new thread about the ACLU) Stay tuned.

After taking over PBS and hiring conservative program producers as well as conservative program hosts, we can then deny that there is any conservative bias by conducting our own polls (As PBS has done all along to support the denial of any liberal bias). The liberals have been great teachers in subversive strategies in biased news reporting just as the ACLU is a great teacher in subversive activities by using liberal activist judges in certain areas (such as the 3rd circuit court in California) to gain favorable rulings against the display of the Ten Commandments on public property. I think this will eventually result in legal display of the commandments without any reference to god or any particular religions which is as it should be. Society must have a code to live by and the ten commandments have served this country well for over 200 years

We will then hire Bill Moyers as a consultant in the fine art of advocacy journalism........he should be worth his weight in gold as he proved he was a master at hiding behind the good name and disguise of 'Honest Journalism"..

Is there any doubt we will be successful?

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Yes, because your cause is led by a pack of fools such as yourself, who can only fool people for so long.

Cycloptichorn

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That's nice Ray..

PS Don't forget to wear your brown shirt to the rally this weekend.

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Ray, a toothless lion nevertheless maintains his roar. Thanks for the reminder.

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blatham wrote:

acq

Yes. Phone and write anyway. As beholden as these fellows are to their party and ideology, they are moved profoundly by the threat of public opinion holding them in disfavor.

Congratulations Blatham...... you have just contradicted the conspiracy theory of all liberals that the Bush administration is on the cusp of turning this country into the next Nazi dictarorship. Please get your conspiracies in line with your text other wise your statements will only further contribute to your current failing grade credibility problem. Rolling Eyes

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blueveinedthrobber wrote:

Ray, a toothless lion nevertheless maintains his roar. Thanks for the reminder.

Watch it unfold BVT........and weep for the good ole days of wimpy political correctness and tolerance of everything but practical thought. You and Howard Dean will be thrown atop the dustbin of history. Have a nice day.

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I am not so sure that people are going to respond to the threat of a conservative CEO being the chairman or whatever of PBS in the same way as they did the funding. For some reason things like that just don't register too well.

revel

Rich had it right. The funding issue was a cover, a misdirection. Under the hullabaloo about funding, they slip in the RNC operative. Taking PBS down wouldn't be feasible without a large loss of potential voters, it has too many fans. Doing it this way, they look tempered or moderate yet they get to keep an existing network but now one that will forward the party ideology. These guys are truly ugly, but they are not stupid.

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rayban1 wrote:

blueveinedthrobber wrote:
Ray, a toothless lion nevertheless maintains his roar. Thanks for the reminder.

Watch it unfold BVT........and weep for the good ole days of wimpy political correctness and tolerance of everything but practical thought. You and Howard Dean will be thrown atop the dustbin of history. Have a nice day.

Yes ray, we will all end up on the dustbin of history in the end...no hope but Mt. Hope and all..... but some of us will enjoy the journey more than others.....life's too short to walk around constipated...

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