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Turning PBS into another propaganda tool

 
 
rayban1
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2005 11:40 am
Dys

Brooks/Shields.....on PBS, friday night?????? Please fill me in as I'm not familiar.....is one of them David Brooks of the NYTimes?

Glad to see we agree on one thing.......Richard Perle being interesting.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 06:30 am
Bill Moyers, the lamented, demented former host of the PBS program "Now With Bill Moyers," referred to the American-led war in Iraq as doing "to the people of Baghdad what bin Laden did to us."

He called American flag pins "a little metallic icon of patriotism" comparable to Mao's Little Red Book being displayed on every Communist Party official's desk in China. This is silly. The metallic icons of patriotism that Mao used to keep the masses in line were considerably longer and sharper, and were usually applied to the back by a fellow "comrade."

Moyers denounced Condoleezza Rice for her ineptness in not preventing the 9-11 attack, despite a clearly worded memo stating: "Bin Laden determined to attack the United States." In other breaking news: Waitress in L.A. Determined to Become Actress. As Condi said, "I don't think you, frankly, had to have that report to know that bin Laden would like to attack the United States."

In his lengthy diatribe against Rice, Moyers said she had cried wolf, intentionally misleading "America and the world about the case for invading Iraq." Apparently Rice had said Iraq was "a part of the war on terror" on the grounds that Saddam was: (1) supporting terrorists, (2) a weapons of mass destruction threat and (3) "a tremendous barrier to change in the Middle East."

But as regular viewers of PBS know, in fact, we invaded Iraq for oil.

Yes, precisely. That's why U.S. forces seized Iraq's oil fields right after Baghdad fell, confiscated their vast oil reserves, and now we can buy all the gasoline we want here at home for just pennies a gallon any time we want. Sorry, we what? Folks, my switchboard is completely lit up and this isn't even a radio show.

Moyers responded to the 2002 midterm elections in which Republicans bucked history by gaining seats in both the House and the Senate by warning Americans of the coming Rapture: "f you like God in government, get ready for the Rapture." As Moyers described the horror that was to come: "That agenda includes the power of the state to force pregnant women to surrender control over their own lives."

I'm pretty sure even the harshest anti-abortion laws would only prevent a woman from killing her baby, not send her to a slave labor camp. But with his broadcast career crashing down around him, Moyers took a brave stand against the internment of pregnant women.

Moyers also said the agenda of the coming theocracy "includes using the taxing power to transfer wealth from working people to the rich." (And we'd appreciate it if you poor people would fold the bills a little more neatly before mailing them in next time.)

As the extra little cherry on top, all Moyers' nut conspiracy theories were being broadcast on PBS, subsidized by the U.S. taxpayer. Not only that, but Moyers takes a cut of every video of his show sold, and he has family members on the payroll. Let's see now: a corrupt, partisan demagogue and his family caught feeding at the taxpayers' trough. Let's just hope he never took a free golfing trip to Scotland!

When Ken Tomlinson, chair of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, suggested that PBS was maybe a smidgen left of center, Moyers began his lengthy public nervous breakdown. Already well-known as an insufferable jerk, it turns out Moyers is also a crazy megalomaniac, too.

In a recent speech to the the National Conference on Media Reform - a conference dedicated to increasing liberal representation in the media from 94.6 percent to 99.8 percent - Moyers responded to his critics by reading from his fan mail, reading favorable news articles about himself, and comparing himself to Jesus Christ or, as he put it, "one of our boys." If it were possible that he actually believed in God, PBS would be doing a special report on Moyers after a remark like that.

He said his critics were "obsessed with control, using the government to threaten and intimidate" - almost as control-obsessed as 45 senators trying to tell 55 senators which judicial nominees are acceptable. The threat is: Provide balanced programming or stop expecting subsidies from the U.S. taxpayer.

Moyers also noted that his critics were the ones behind the bin Laden-like attack on Iraq in order "to make sure Ahmed Chalabi winds up controlling Iraq's oil." (And that's why gasoline is so cheap!) Yep, it's all right there on the Project for a New American Century's agenda: (1) invade Iraq, (2) somehow get Bill Moyers' PBS show canceled, (3) invade Syria, (4) invade Iran ...

Moyers has clearly reached the next-to-last stage of the megalomaniac's life cycle: the persecution complex. We'll know Moyers has reached end-stage megalomania when he begins to exhibit an inordinate fear of germs.

According to Moyers, the reason these right-wing radicals focused on him despite the fan mail he gets - to say nothing of favorable write-ups in the mainstream media - is that he "didn't play by the conventional rules of Beltway journalism." (That and the giant piece of tinfoil on his head.)

These contemptible "rules of Beltway journalism" apparently consist of reporters completely ignoring important conspiracy theories regularly featured on Moyers' program and instead functioning as "government stenographers" - as Moyers called one reporter for the New York Times, no less.

Moyers did live by one rule of old-media journalism: He believed he should not need viewers to have a TV show. During fund-raising drives, scores of local PBS affiliates would drop Moyers' program for fear of driving away donors. Let me say that I personally believe this was a mistake. Moyers' show was the one PBS program that made the pledge drives seem interesting.

But the absence of an audience is no concern for liberals. After all, Air America is still on air. How about making George Soros pay Moyers' salary? Then at least he'd have a little less money to spend on wrecking the country. Hey - maybe that's what Moyers meant about the Republican government transferring money from working people to the rich.

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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 06:35 am
<snore>
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rayban1
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 07:55 am
FreeDuck wrote:
rayban1 wrote:
I will suggest listening to one of the Neocons whom I'm certain you detest.......Richard Perle. He's very soft spoken but he usually obliterates the opposition in any debate and he never raises his voice.......a real pleasure to listen to.


Since others are chiming in, I will too. I think the above is kind of the point blatham was trying to make. At any rate, I also find him interesting to listen to. Most of us are not opposed to hearing ideas that don't agree with ours, but don't like having them shouted at us. In fact, I don't even like ideas that I agree with shouted at me.


Freeduck

Strongly agree........both sides have their fanatics such as Franken on the left and Coulter on the right.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 08:08 am
BBB
I thought McGintrix's post sounded familiar. McG apparently worships at the 3-inch spike heeled shoes of Ann Coulter.

And don't you just love his little trick to increase Coulter's column income? By posting "source" instead of citing her as the author of the article, you have to click on "source" to learn the authorship. This adds to the number of hits count on Coulter's site---increasing her ability to inflate her asking price for hate mongering.

Very clever McG.

BBB
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 08:16 am
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As the debate over fairness and balance in public broadcasting rages on, there's a curious historical connection to be found between two men at the forefront of the current conservative crusade and a famous radio broadcaster from 50 years ago. How the three crossed paths -- and the way they practiced journalism -- put some of the debate into sharper focus.

A main figure in the roiling controversy is Kenneth Tomlinson, the head of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, who insists that public radio and television suffer from a liberal bias and that actions -- such as adding conservative-leaning programs to the lineup -- must be taken to counterbalance it. Tomlinson recently singled out the weekly news program "Now," once hosted by liberal Bill Moyers, as the cause for his concern about bias....

Tomlinson's charge of liberal bias runs counter to two nationwide polls conducted by the CPB in 2002 and 2003, which found little concern among Americans about bias in public broadcasting. The CPB is a federally funded agency that serves as an umbrella organization for public radio and television. Created by Congress, its purpose is both to help raise money and awareness for public broadcasting and to protect it from political pressure. But now the CPB itself has become the source of such pressure.

Tomlinson's attempt to push back the so-called liberal media is not surprising given his journalistic past -- which is where Fulton Lewis Jr., the broadcaster with the intriguing, albeit distant, connection to the ongoing debate, comes in. A prominent radio broadcaster in the '40s, '50s and '60s, Lewis was known for his complete lack of objectivity. At his commercial peak he was heard on more than 500 radio stations and boasted a weekly audience of 16 million listeners. An erstwhile Rush Limbaugh, Lewis was the master of the partisan smear who rarely strayed from GOP talking points. In 1948, New York Herald Tribune radio columnist John Crosby suggested that Lewis "ought to be recognized as a campaigner, not as a commentator, and his national air time be paid for and so listed by the Republican National Committee."...

Even after McCarthy was revealed as a phony who could not document his claims that hundreds of communists had infiltrated the federal government, Lewis remained loyal. Over time, the broadcaster's reputation faded, and today he's a largely forgotten figure (although in 1987 the Washington Post remembered Lewis as "one of the most unprincipled journalists ever to practice the trade").

What's interesting about Lewis now is that two men at the forefront of the effort to rid public broadcasting of its presumed liberal bias both learned journalism at his knee. One, CPB chief Tomlinson, worked as an intern for Lewis. The other, William Schulz, whom Tomlinson recently named as one of the CPB's two ombudsmen, was a writer for Lewis.
full story here
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rayban1
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 08:18 am
Re: BBB
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
I thought McGintrix's post sounded familiar. McG apparently worships at the 3-inch spike heeled shoes of Ann Coulter.

And don't you just love his little trick to increase Coulter's column income? By posting "source" instead of siting her as the author of the article, you have to click on "source" to learn the authorship. This adds to the number of hits count on Coulter's site---increasing her ability to inflate her asking price for hate mongering.

Very clever McG.

BBB


You've really got audacity BBB........your "cut and pasting" was choking the system for a long time and seems to me you showed "source" in the same manner.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 08:26 am
Re: BBB
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
I thought McGintrix's post sounded familiar. McG apparently worships at the 3-inch spike heeled shoes of Ann Coulter.

And don't you just love his little trick to increase Coulter's column income? By posting "source" instead of siting her as the author of the article, you have to click on "source" to learn the authorship. This adds to the number of hits count on Coulter's site---increasing her ability to inflate her asking price for hate mongering.

Very clever McG.

BBB


I wasn't trying to be clever. I generally do that when copying and pasting articles. You can look back through my history if you wish.

In the future, if you hoover your mouse over the link, it will tell you where it goes on the status bar at the bottom of your screen. That way you won't have to actually follow the link.

It never ceases to amaze me how people react to Coulter. I'll ask this time, like I almost always do, what has she said that is not the truth?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 08:30 am
blatham wrote:


Are you trying to be clever as well, Blatham?
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rayban1
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 08:38 am
Blatham

Do you really think the article from Salon.com should be considered an honest critique of Tomlinson? They also had another article with this title

Bush the despot
The Senate's compromise on the filibuster won't stop the president's quest for absolute power.

- - - - - - - - - - - -
By Sidney Blumenthal


BUSH THE DESPOT............AND HIS QUEST FOR ABSOLUTE POWER.

Tell me Blatham where is their coverage of the banquet where they awarded Moyers an award as.........THE MOST HONEST JOUNALIST OF OUR TIME.


Sorry if I don't gush with awe at your sources.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 08:43 am
rayban

Gush or don't gush, at your pleasure.

McG

If I referred to Barbara Bush, say, as a weasely old cow of a Texas strumpet, would that be a statement you could label as not true?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 08:44 am
Rayban, sources should not be the issue, rather what the source says.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 08:49 am
I read the Moyers speech that Blatham linked at the opening of this thread.

I do agree with him about some of the undesirable features of contemporary news reporting - the focus is on the political theater, the actions and statements of the various political actors, and not on the issues that presumably are the substance and purpose of their discourse and contention. I also agree that Moyers himself has gone beyond that in his own reporting. He has, as he claims, attempted to examine issues in some greater depth and to look beyond the selective pronouncements of the political actors to the often ignored elements of the issues and their effects on people.

Where I disagree with Moyers is his tacit presumption that he and his fellows in PBS are the only ones doing that, and that their doing it immunizes them from criticism concerning the all-to-evident agenda being their selection of topics, point of view in questioning, reporting, and most of all editorializing. The PBS charter calls for non political reporting - if that is possible in a publicly funded operation. That PBS embodies a .. certain point of view, in the selection of topics it engages and in the manner in which it reports them is quite beyond doubt. I have no particular problem with its content, but I don't like the idea of its consistent bias, given that I am forced to pay for it. Moyers and his crowd are indignant that the new Chairman Tomlinson, is attempting to limit their influence and introduce some equivalent bias in a different direction. They defend themselves by asserting they represent only sound reason and virtue, having no bias at all. Worse they expect us to believe that nonsense.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 09:05 am
georgeob1
georgeob1, I'm not even going to try to list the number of right wing religious entities that I'm forced to support via the taxes I pay to the federal government. It would make my blood pressure hit the stroke zone and I want to be around a little longer to annoy the religious right zealots.

BBB
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 09:08 am
george

I've twice asked you to describe (knowing you an honest sort) what PBS shows you have watched in the last five years, and what content therein matches your description.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 09:09 am
Re: BBB
McGentrix wrote:
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
I thought McGintrix's post sounded familiar. McG apparently worships at the 3-inch spike heeled shoes of Ann Coulter.

And don't you just love his little trick to increase Coulter's column income? By posting "source" instead of citing her as the author of the article, you have to click on "source" to learn the authorship. This adds to the number of hits count on Coulter's site---increasing her ability to inflate her asking price for hate mongering.

Very clever McG.

BBB


I wasn't trying to be clever. I generally do that when copying and pasting articles. You can look back through my history if you wish.

In the future, if you hoover your mouse over the link, it will tell you where it goes on the status bar at the bottom of your screen. That way you won't have to actually follow the link.

It never ceases to amaze me how people react to Coulter. I'll ask this time, like I almost always do, what has she said that is not the truth?


McG, I think you will find it rare that I simply post "source" link. I nearly always include the source/author of any article authored by others under the title. If I post a link, the URL nearly always includes the topic and/or author.

Whew! You can't even accept a compliment from me noting your cleverness. What a gump!

BBB
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 09:13 am
OK, then just name one or two. That shouldn't be hard. Do they compare to PBS? Is what is being funded political indoctrination of the public?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 09:17 am
blatham wrote:
rayban

Gush or don't gush, at your pleasure.

McG

If I referred to Barbara Bush, say, as a weasely old cow of a Texas strumpet, would that be a statement you could label as not true?


I would label it as an opinion. It you gave examples of her being either weasely or an old cow, and demonstrated how that molded your opinion, that may lead credence to your opinion.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 09:18 am
georgeob1 wrote:
OK, then just name one or two. That shouldn't be hard. Do they compare to PBS? Is what is being funded political indoctrination of the public?


If that question is to me, george, I don't understand it.
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2005 09:20 am
McG--

If Coulter wrote that, it was one of the best things she's ever written. Thanks for bringing it!!

And, GOOD FOR YOU for pointing out blaring hypocrisy of others who have the nerve to accuse you of trying on what they do. (!!!!!)
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