Things i like about George.W.Bush

Tico,
What was the lie Clinton told?

I see lots of instances of telling factually true statements based on narrow definitions to give an impression that they might mean something else.

Clinton himself stated

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As you know, in a deposition in January, I was asked questions about my relationship with Monica Lewinsky. While my answers were legally accurate, I did not volunteer information

How can it be accurate and a lie?

Definition of sexual relationship is "intercourse". That is certainly not a lie. It was a weasel perhaps in it gave an impression that there was no sexual contact at all but there is no evidence that they did have intercourse.

We can argue word meanings all day but then we get to the same issue with Bush. The meanings of words and if they mean what you think or we think. Based on Bush's statements, Bush weaseled. He intentionally gave an impression that wasn't true.

Clinton misled about his affair. Bush misled about WMD. Not much difference between the two.

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'cept noone died as a result of Clinton's indiscretions...

Cycloptichorn

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Not apart from a few thousand dead Iraqi non-combatants . . . with the toll rising on a nearly daily basis . . .

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Seems you may be close there Tico. Somehow, hiding a sexual encounter and hiding the fact that you started a war under false pretenses isn't even in the same universe.

I guess that is the answer. George Bush must be part of a lawsuit so that the questions that need answers can be answered.

We may not get the truth today and we may not get the truth tomorrow, but the truth will come out and history will record it.

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Intrepid wrote:

"We may not get the truth today and we may not get the truth tomorrow, but the truth will come out and history will record it"

nice quote Smile

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Back on topic, ok my mind was blank when i first started this topic, i just couldnt think of anything i liked about Bush, but i just love his dumb quotes :

1. "My answer is bring them on." ?-on Iraqi insurgents attacking U.S. forces, Washington, D.C., July 3, 2003

2. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." ?-Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

3. "Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." ?-Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004

4. "There's an old saying in Tennessee ?- I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee ?- that says, fool me once, shame on ?- shame on you. Fool me ?- you can't get fooled again." ?-Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002

5. "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." ?-Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000

6. "Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be somewhere!" ?-President George W. Bush, joking about his administration's failure to find WMDs in Iraq as he narrated a comic slideshow during the Radio & TV Correspondents' Association dinner, Washington, D.C., March 24, 2004

7. "We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories And we'll find more weapons as time goes on. But for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them." ?-Washington, D.C., May 30, 2003

8. "Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed." ?-speaking underneath a "Mission Accomplished" banner aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, May 1, 2003

9. "I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job." ?-to a group of Amish he met with privately, July 9, 2004

10. "I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we're really talking about peace." ?-Washington, D.C. June 18, 2002

11. "Can we win? I don't think you can win it." ?-after being asked whether the war on terror was winnable, "Today" show interview, Aug. 30, 2004

12. "I try to go for longer runs, but it's tough around here at the White House on the outdoor track. It's sad that I can't run longer. It's one of the saddest things about the presidency." ?-interview with "Runners World," Aug. 2002

13. "But all in all, it's been a fabulous year for Laura and me." ?-summing up his first year in office, three months after the 9/11 attacks, Washington, D.C., Dec. 20, 2001

14. "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." ?-Washington, D.C., March 13, 2002

Laughing

there are lots more Here

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not2know wrote:

Intrepid wrote:

"We may not get the truth today and we may not get the truth tomorrow, but the truth will come out and history will record it"

nice quote

Thanks
In rare moments, I get inspired :-)

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I have read several of his dumb quotes as well. I have also heard them on TV etc. The man must have several handlers just to keep a rein on him. It is really scary that he is the President of one of the most powerful nations on earth. He makes our politicians seem like mensa members.

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Intrepid wrote:

He makes our politicians seem like mensa members.

God, that's a scary thought . . . you include Joe Clark in that assessment?

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parados wrote:

Tico,
What was the lie Clinton told?

I see lots of instances of telling factually true statements based on narrow definitions to give an impression that they might mean something else.

Clinton himself stated
Quote:

As you know, in a deposition in January, I was asked questions about my relationship with Monica Lewinsky. While my answers were legally accurate, I did not volunteer information

How can it be accurate and a lie?

Definition of sexual relationship is "intercourse". That is certainly not a lie. It was a weasel perhaps in it gave an impression that there was no sexual contact at all but there is no evidence that they did have intercourse.

We can argue word meanings all day but then we get to the same issue with Bush. The meanings of words and if they mean what you think or we think. Based on Bush's statements, Bush weaseled. He intentionally gave an impression that wasn't true.

Clinton misled about his affair. Bush misled about WMD. Not much difference between the two.

What lie? Where to start?

How about when he was asked "At any time were you and Monica Lewinsky alone together in the Oval Office?" His response: "I don't recall ..." Do you find that factually accurate?

How about this exchange:

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Q. Certainly if it happened, nothing remarkable would have occurred?

A. No, nothing remarkable. I don't remember it.

You think that was a factually accurate statement?

He lied ... that's why he lost his license to practice law -- his misleading testimony.

We know Clinton "weaseled" out of a desire to mislead, knowing he was telling an untruth. That isn't the case with Bush. That's what you anti-Bush folks can't seem to understand .... you insist that he started the war on false pretenses, and "lied" to get us to war, but it's just not the case.

Intrepid wrote:

We may not get the truth today and we may not get the truth tomorrow, but the truth will come out and history will record it.

That depends what you mean by the word "get."

:wink:

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Did you know that IMB are making a new PC called "The Clinton" ?

It comes with 5.5 inch Hard drive and NO memory!

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heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee . . .

okseeyahbye

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Tico

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Unjust" is your opinion ... as is, I suppose, whether the sitting president should commit adultery in the Oval Office, then lie about it.

How many people died as a result of that lie. What effect did it have on the function of president. Did it cause 1600 American Dead, 16000 American wounded and 100,000 Iraqi dead. That is the result of the fabrications of the present leader of the "Free world" The leader I might add that no one is willing to follow. And I should add the schmuck that is bankrupting this nation.

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Setanta wrote:

Intrepid wrote:
He makes our politicians seem like mensa members.

God, that's a scary thought . . . you include Joe Clark in that assessment?

Um, ya got me there Setanta. I would have to absolve myself of all knowedge of the hitherto mentioned Mr. Joe Clark. Come to think of it, he is probably the closest we have to George Bush. Except, old Joe never caused anyone to lose their lives based on deception.
:wink:

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Intrepid wrote:

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We may not get the truth today and we may not get the truth tomorrow, but the truth will come out and history will record it.

Tico wrote:

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That depends what you mean by the word "get."

Get as in to obtain, receive, acquire.

Not, to understand as you are obviously alluding to ;-)

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au1929 wrote:

Tico

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Unjust" is your opinion ... as is, I suppose, whether the sitting president should commit adultery in the Oval Office, then lie about it.

How many people died as a result of that lie. What effect did it have on the function of president. Did it cause 1600 American Dead, 16000 American wounded and 100,000 Iraqi dead. That is the result of the fabrications of the present leader of the "Free world" ...

Again, that is your unsubstantiated belief.

au wrote:

And I should add the schmuck that is bankrupting this nation.

I thought you were a big fan of bankruptcy.

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Intrepid wrote:

Intrepid wrote:

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We may not get the truth today and we may not get the truth tomorrow, but the truth will come out and history will record it.

Tico wrote:

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That depends what you mean by the word "get."

Get as in to obtain, receive, acquire.

Not, to understand as you are obviously alluding to ;-)

We also might get the truth today, and just not believe it because we don't want to. I understand that cuts both ways.

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Ticomaya wrote:

Intrepid wrote:
Intrepid wrote:

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We may not get the truth today and we may not get the truth tomorrow, but the truth will come out and history will record it.

Tico wrote:

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That depends what you mean by the word "get."

Get as in to obtain, receive, acquire.

Not, to understand as you are obviously alluding to ;-)

We also might get the truth today, and just not believe it because we don't want to. I understand that cuts both ways.

Whether one chooses to believe it or not, the truth is the truth, Didn't I hear somewhere, truth and liberty for all? ;-)

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au wrote:
And I should add the schmuck that is bankrupting this nation.

While I don't disagree with this, he is not alone here. He has about 535 other people helping in this cause.

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There is a difference between lying saying what you believe to be true. Consider the WMDs issue:

1. Bush claimed there were WMDs in Iraq.

2. He asked for the army to invade and get rid of those WMDs.

Now if you say he was lying what you mean is:

1. He knew there were no WMDs.
2. But he sent the army in anyway so that they could prove there weren't any and thereby end up being called a liar.

I'm sorry but noone is that stupid. Even a kid wouldn't tell his teacher that his dog ate his homework. then drag his teacher home to show her he has no dog.

So obviously he didn't lie, as he believed it too.
Clinton lied . The importance of that lie is not in question, I'm not even certain ppl had any business asking him that question in the first place, but he lied anyways.

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