I was going to reply bunk but I like your reply much better not2know ;-)
Intrepid wrote:I was going to reply bunk but I like your reply much better not2know ;-)
To be accurate, it's Edward L. Bernays' reply. :wink:
Um, right you are Tico.... It is Edward L. Bernay's words in not2knows reply ;-)
Intrepid wrote:Um, right you are Tico.... It is Edward L. Bernay's words in not2knows reply ;-)
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Intrepid is always 1 step ahead of Tico .
good thread n2k and good first post. made me laugh anyway
not2know wrote:Intrepid wrote:Um, right you are Tico.... It is Edward L. Bernay's words in not2knows reply ;-)
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Intrepid is always 1 step ahead of Tico .
But that's only because he's running away from me.
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:good thread n2k and good first post. made me laugh anyway
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thank you Steve, at least someone's got a good sense of humor
Ticomaya wrote:not2know wrote:Intrepid wrote:Um, right you are Tico.... It is Edward L. Bernay's words in not2knows reply ;-)
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Intrepid is always 1 step ahead of Tico .
But that's only because he's running away from me.
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You got that wrong, Tico. We are running in circles and I am actually chasing you. ;-)
Intrepid wrote:
You got that wrong, Tico. We are running in circles and I am actually chasing you. ;-)
as Tico would say, how are you going to PROVE that ?
not2know wrote:Intrepid wrote:
You got that wrong, Tico. We are running in circles and I am actually chasing you. ;-)
as Tico would say, how are you going to PROVE that ?
The burden of proof is upon him to prove that he is chasing me
I tried the bottom once..
.. prefer the top :-)
Quote:NO! as long as we :
1. Do Not Use False Evidence
2. Do Not Use Illogical, Unsupported Reasoning
3. Do Not Falsely Represent Yourself
4. Do Not Conceal Your Purpose or Interest
5. Do Not Cover Up Consequences
6. Do Not Use Baseless Emotional Appeals
7. Do Not Oversimplify Complex Situations
8. Do Not Pretend Certainty
9. Do Not Advocate What You Don't Believe Yourself
1. What evidence was known to be false at that time?? Do not assume anything learnt after the war, If we went by ure reasoning we still wouldn't know.
Also please give examples of illogical reasoning??
The rest of your points are valid, but you cannot prove that any of those points were ignored by Bush. You need to offer proof that he violated any of the things you just wrote down, otherwise it doesn't seem relevant to the topic.
This is a report from FOX dated February 2004.
"But Secretary of State Colin Powell said Wednesday that he did not know whether he would have recommended an invasion of Iraq if he had access to "other information that might have been available earlier.""
not2know wrote:Intrepid wrote:
You got that wrong, Tico. We are running in circles and I am actually chasing you. ;-)
as Tico would say, how are you going to PROVE that ?
See, Intrepid? Your misapprehension is contagious.
Intrepid wrote:I tried the bottom once..
..prefer the top
Do you mean that in the sense that you tried "catching, ..
.. but prefer to "pitch"?
Not that there's anything wrong with that .....
"Things i like about George.W.Bush"
Well, I like that he makes it obvious.
Politics is a political game. It is about power-brokers ... brokering power.
For themselves. A tank full of sharks. A pit full of snakes.
It's about buying votes, spinning stories, getting kickbacks, trading favors,
and creating the public "image" that sways and motivates people, and therefore
absolutely lies to them in calculated, button-pushing psychological ways.
Manipulative word games.
Politics has always been this way.
But with King George the W. it is obvious. He is not in charge. He simply speaks
the words he is fed, and tries to find the properly conniving and ruthless people to run
the show. Or rather, they have found and harnessed him. He has no clue or acumen,
as a truly good puppet should. He is merely the President.
He makes it obvious that the country is run by people who are NOT elected
every four years, and NOT beholding to the honest citizens of our great nation.
That the center of power is hidden from public gossip, immune to democracy
or prosecution, because George takes all the heat for them.
That's his job. He's the President.
He takes all the finger-pointing, the whining and the contrived blame,
leaving the power-brokers to have a peaceful, safely unexamined life.
I like that George is so unintelligent and predictably incapable
that the president's true role as a "public-relations lightning rod,
figure-head and hood-ornament" becomes obvious.
It's makes people think "This can't be right!",
he can't be serious, he can't mean what he says, . . .
there MUST be something else going on.
And then they realize that democracy is a calculated pretense
and pacifier for the uninformed. Our votes have already been spun,
purchased and harvested, by a TV commercial called "The White House".
The organizations that create the market for fear, and the products to harness it
are almost revealed now, to the American public. Because George W. is so scripted,
stiff and biblical, there MUST be something else going on.
Who is really calling the shots and running the country?
I like that George W. Bush makes it so outrageously clear.
Maybe a few more voters/citizens/people will lose their innocence
and stand up a little bit straighter.