Rice: Gun Rights Important As Free Speech

oralloy wrote:

D'artagnan wrote:

oralloy wrote:

Wolf_ODonnell wrote:

Freedom my arse,

Freedom is important. Better to have the whole country annihilated, and me with it, than to let the anti-gunners enslave us.

Speak for yourself, Rambo.

Though, in fairness, I guess you are. If I can paraphrase: "I'd rather die and have the US destroyed, than give up my gun."

I speak for all who value American freedom.

I'm guessing that overstatement is your default style of debate

I suppose all those Hindus hold daily prayer vigils for all the bugs they stepped on, or were killed during the harvest.

Retarded.

Anyone who worships bugs or wishes to disarm honest American citizens is obviously far more retarded than I'll ever be.

A: In OZ, you cannot, as you have no right to defend yourself.

Right....

Now you're out shopping and suddenly you're attacked by a group of Muslim thugs, who don't like you because you are white.

How do you defend yourself?

A: In OZ, you cannot, as you have no right to defend yourself.

That's not sanity. That is retarded.

The experiences in the U.K. and Australia, two island nations whose borders are much easier to monitor, should also give Canadian gun controllers some pause. The British government banned handguns in 1997 but recently reported that gun crime in England and Wales nearly doubled in the four years from 1998-99 to 2002-03.

Crime was not supposed to rise after handguns were banned. Yet, since 1996 the serious-violent-crime rate has soared by 69 percent; robbery is up 45 percent, and murders up 54 percent. Before the law, armed robberies had fallen 50 percent from 1993 to 1997, but as soon as handguns were banned the robbery rate shot back up, almost to its 1993 level.

The 2000 International Crime Victimization Survey, the last survey completed, shows the violent-crime rate in England and Wales was twice the rate of that in the U.S. When the new survey for 2004 comes out later this year, that gap will undoubtedly have widened even further as crimes reported to British police have since soared by 35 percent, while those in the U.S. have declined 6 percent.

Australia has also seen its violent-crime rates soar immediately after its 1996 Port Arthur gun-control measures. Violent crime rates averaged 32-percent higher in the six years after the law was passed (from 1997 to 2002) than they did in 1995. The same comparisons for armed-robbery rates showed increases of 74 percent.

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/lott200508190817.asp

Right....

Now you're out shopping and suddenly you're attacked by a group of Muslim thugs, who don't like you because you are white.

How do you defend yourself?

A: In OZ, you cannot, as you have no right to defend yourself.

That's not sanity. That is retarded.

Whle it seems there may have been some fairly equal thuggery between gangs of Lebanese and Anglo thug idiots, the riot in question began as predominantly Anglo Australian thugs attacking utterly innocent Muslims.