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If Jesus is God, how is he called God's only begotten son?

 
 
bulmabriefs144
 
  -2  
Mon 22 Nov, 2021 08:27 am
@Frank Apisa,
Haha, shows how ignorant you are.

https://c.tenor.com/5vKnZA8IzwIAAAAM/ray-liotta-laughing.gif

You can literally write an Amazon book for free, provided you have a laptop.

You made that up. Nobody graduates from a major in religion without having to do theological thought. It was a required exercise in Theology course that even a minor was to take.

The very first class of Theology, this crusty old professor talked about "things people say about God (probably when they're high)." How one guy sits around a campfire and says, " I think God is like... 50 feet tall. " And another, "I think God's a black woman." And another, " Oh yeah? Well I think God's an eagle! " He stops about the point when were are laughing and explains, "We aren't gonna do any armchair theology here. We're going to study theologians and their theories of God and the workings of the universe, and then we're going to back these up with a sense of logic. We want a well-thought out thesis." And yes, he made me study someone and come up with an idea of my own theology ( I picked Tillich and Swedenborg, for a rather interesting, while not wholly Christian, theology). The point is, had you majored in Religion and Philosophy, you would not have gotten through with such a lazy mindset. Some teacher would have called you out as basically a closet nihilist "It's all just blind guesses, we can't be expected to know if there is a God or gods, whether there's an afterlife, and so on." To which any real professor tells you, "Nice try, buddy. But you are expected to know what you believe, or at least do some thinking. If you fail in History, you are doomed to repeat it. So what about religion? Are you doomed to come back as a flea?" Further, as my dad who actually went through seminary tells me, when you seriously study religion, they have you learn at least two languages, well enough to translate biblical text. He took Hebrew and Greek, and he has a Hebrew English Bible. He taught me how to read some Greek once, and I sorta got how aside from the text, some of the words were familiar. I didn't retain the lesson much, but I'm sure a refresher course would fix this.

Like Brandon over there (let's go, Brandon) you can't wave credentials in front of me and expect to have me believe that you went to "some Lutheran college." This is a bit like these phone scams you get where they say, " Your vehicle has run out on its warranty. " Oh? What vehicle? A motorcycle? An RV? A semi? A van? What make? What model? I can tell you what college I went to (Ferrum) and probably some of the courses if I really tried to remember. This was about 20 years ago, but I remember Russian History, Indian History, Civil War, Chinese History (we actually were to remember a map of China, and I did a sorta photographic thing after a solid day of study), History of American Religion, Historiography. A philosophy class that seemed to deal in the nature of existence. Old Testament and Minor Prophets, and a class called A Search For Meaning (kinda a bullshit course, but the point was that we read newspaper articles and such and tried to piece together how a religious person would seek after meaning in current events. The thesis needed at the end, I decided to watch a bunch of films and come up with a general meaning of life from what severàl films told me). There were more courses of course, acting courses, horticulture courses, Art for Children (it was a teaching course), but the point is that I can tell you a good portion.
But "Oh yeah I (name drops the Lutherans) and I studied Religion and Philosophy." What college, where? Tell me some courses. Tell me what the Mind-Body Problem is, since you say you had Philosophy . Or when is Reformation Day, since that should be the first thing you learn about in a Lutheran college. The point is, you don't seem to have the benefit of these many courses that I got through with just a minor in Religion.

Your idea of the workings of Heaven and Hell is so simplistic that it stops at Sunday school. You were a bad kid that screamed and cried until your parents took you outside. You never embraced any part of the church, always understanding it as a threat to your way. When Jesus comes again and you are one of the ones wailing, I will have said "I dun told you." Will I be one of the ones saved? I can't say that I know. But I am one of the ones who tried to no avail to tell you there was a better way to live your life, and like the Pharisees, you preferred to be like that. Whatever.

So, looking forward to burning up and being reincarnated as a flea? That's what you get when you fail in Religion.
theMadOne
 
  -2  
Mon 22 Nov, 2021 08:40 am
And NEITHER of you have experienced a true "Christian" religion...
Frank Apisa
 
  2  
Mon 22 Nov, 2021 08:47 am
@bulmabriefs144,
bulmabriefs144 wrote:

Haha, shows how ignorant you are.

https://c.tenor.com/5vKnZA8IzwIAAAAM/ray-liotta-laughing.gif

You can literally write an Amazon book for free, provided you have a laptop.


Of course. You were bragging about it. I was laughing at you.

Quote:
You made that up. Nobody graduates from a major in religion without having to do theological thought. It was a required exercise in Theology course that even a minor was to take.


Is that the best you can do...to claim I made it up. I have written those words dozens of times here in A2K...and they are true. I did graduate from a religious college (Augustana Lutheran)...with a triple major. Economics, religion and philosophy.

You took religion as a minor.

I have done more religious thought than you have ever dreamed of.

Quote:
The very first class of Theology, this crusty old professor talked about "things people say about God (probably when they're high)." How one guy sits around a campfire and says, " I think God is like... 50 feet tall. " And another, "I think God's a black woman." And another, " Oh yeah? Well I think God's an eagle! " He stops about the point when were are laughing and explains, "We aren't gonna do any armchair theology here. We're going to study theologians and their theories of God and the workings of the universe, and then we're going to back these up with a sense of logic. We want a well-thought out thesis." And yes, he made me study someone and come up with an idea of my own theology ( I picked Tillich and Swedenborg, for a rather interesting, while not wholly Christian, theology). The point is, had you majored in Religion and Philosophy, you would not have gotten through with such a lazy mindset. Some teacher would have called you out as basically a closet nihilist "It's all just blind guesses, we can't be expected to know if there is a God or gods, whether there's an afterlife, and so on." To which any real professor tells you, "Nice try, buddy. But you are expected to know what you believe, or at least do some thinking. If you fail in History, you are doomed to repeat it. So what about religion? Are you doomed to come back as a flea?" Further, as my dad who actually went through seminary tells me, when you seriously study religion, they have you learn at least two languages, well enough to translate biblical text. He took Hebrew and Greek, and he has a Hebrew English Bible. He taught me how to read some Greek once, and I sorta got how aside from the text, some of the words were familiar. I didn't retain the lesson much, but I'm sure a refresher course would fix this.


Sorry, sonny, but you are in over your head.


Quote:
Like Brandon over there (let's go, Brandon) you can't wave credentials in front of me and expect to have me believe that you went to "some Lutheran college." This is a bit like these phone scams you get where they say, " Your vehicle has run out on its warranty. " Oh? What vehicle? A motorcycle? An RV? A semi? A van? What make? What model? I can tell you what college I went to (Ferrum) and probably some of the courses if I really tried to remember. This was about 20 years ago, but I remember Russian History, Indian History, Civil War, Chinese History (we actually were to remember a map of China, and I did a sorta photographic thing after a solid day of study), History of American Religion, Historiography. A philosophy class that seemed to deal in the nature of existence. Old Testament and Minor Prophets, and a class called A Search For Meaning (kinda a bullshit course, but the point was that we read newspaper articles and such and tried to piece together how a religious person would seek after meaning in current events. The thesis needed at the end, I decided to watch a bunch of films and come up with a general meaning of life from what severàl films told me). There were more courses of course, acting courses, horticulture courses, Art for Children (it was a teaching course), but the point is that I can tell you a good portion.
But "Oh yeah I (name drops the Lutherans) and I studied Religion and Philosophy." What college, where? Tell me some courses. Tell me what the Mind-Body Problem is, since you say you had Philosophy . Or when is Reformation Day, since that should be the first thing you learn about in a Lutheran college. The point is, you don't seem to have the benefit of these many courses that I got through with just a minor in Religion.

Your idea of the workings of Heaven and Hell is so simplistic that it stops at Sunday school. You were a bad kid that screamed and cried until your parents took you outside. You never embraced any part of the church, always understanding it as a threat to your way. When Jesus comes again and you are one of the ones wailing, I will have said "I dun told you." Will I be one of the ones saved? I can't say that I know. But I am one of the ones who tried to no avail to tell you there was a better way to live your life, and like the Pharisees, you preferred to be like that. Whatever.

So, looking forward to burning up and being reincarnated as a flea? That's what you get when you fail in Religion.


You poor kid. You really should not be trying this kind of **** here in a forum with adults in attendance.

But you are really good for kicks.

https://c.tenor.com/5vKnZA8IzwIAAAAM/ray-liotta-laughing.gif
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Frank Apisa
 
  3  
Mon 22 Nov, 2021 08:49 am
@theMadOne,
theMadOne wrote:

And NEITHER of you have experienced a true "Christian" religion...


If a "Christian" is someone who respects the teachings of Jesus...I am probably a better Christian than either you or Bulma.

You two are phonies.

But a delight to laugh at...and above all, I love a good laugh.

Wink
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theMadOne
 
  -2  
Mon 22 Nov, 2021 12:08 pm
Well, Frank- Jesus TOLD us who to worship.
Do you worship Him?
Frank Apisa
 
  2  
Mon 22 Nov, 2021 12:12 pm
@theMadOne,
theMadOne wrote:

Well, Frank- Jesus TOLD us who to worship.
Do you worship Him?


No...I do not worship Jesus...or the god Jesus worshiped.

But I do think that some of the thoughts attributed to Jesus are worthy of respect...and I do use some of those thoughts as the basis for my personal philosophy.

Do you see something wrong with that, TMO? Do you see that as hypocritical?
bulmabriefs144
 
  -2  
Mon 22 Nov, 2021 05:15 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Yes. You are hypocritical. Always.

Actually, TMO, Jesus never ever told anyone to worship him.

Quote:
Here are eight things Jesus never said:

(1) I am God
(2) I created the universe
(3) I am higher than the government
(4) Worship me
(5) Pray to me
(6) Go to church
(7) Read the Bible
(8) Hate the sin, but love the sinner


However, Jesus did love sinners, but hate the idea of people being separated from God. We'll cross this off.

Jesus also did talk about rebellion against the government. Both talking about the leaders lording over others, and actually promoting tax evasion (at one point, Jesus advocates pulling coins from the head of a fish).

Jesus's main goal was not to be worshipped, nor to be Messiah, noe especially to become king. In fact, he is on record as having fled when they tried to make him king.He never told ppl not to worship him either.

If God himself came to Earth, would he demand to be king? Would he want a spaceship to fly around and spread his word? Nah. What does God need with a starship?
theMadOne
 
  -2  
Mon 22 Nov, 2021 06:08 pm
@Frank Apisa,
No, I just see that as illogical!
Frank Apisa
 
  2  
Tue 23 Nov, 2021 05:39 am
@bulmabriefs144,
bulmabriefs144 wrote:


Yes. You are hypocritical. Always.


You are, as usual, full of ****, Little boy.
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Frank Apisa
 
  2  
Tue 23 Nov, 2021 05:42 am
@theMadOne,
theMadOne wrote:

No, I just see that as illogical!


You see what I said as illogical, TMO?

You consider, "I do not worship Jesus...or the god Jesus worshiped"...to be illogical?

Why?

You see, "But I do think that some of the thoughts attributed to Jesus are worthy of respect...and I do use some of those thoughts as the basis for my personal philosophy" to be illogical?

Why?
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Leadfoot
 
  1  
Tue 23 Nov, 2021 06:36 am
If it were not for religious arguments and newbie broken-hearted youngsters, this site would be dead.

Perhaps This is as it should be.

I tried replying to Mad One but it appears he’s been excommunicated?
Along with his innocuous post?

Was he right?

bulmabriefs144
 
  -2  
Tue 23 Nov, 2021 09:02 am
@Leadfoot,
I dunno what his post was about.
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Tue 23 Nov, 2021 09:06 am
@bulmabriefs144,
https://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/funny-laugh-gif-2.gif
bulmabriefs144
 
  -2  
Tue 23 Nov, 2021 08:51 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Oh look, a new GIF.

https://c.tenor.com/f2yQtjm41mUAAAAM/damnit-jay-blame-jay.gif

Meanwhile, all you mask wearers are gonna BUUUURN.
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Tue 23 Nov, 2021 08:52 pm
@bulmabriefs144,
https://c.tenor.com/5vKnZA8IzwIAAAAM/ray-liotta-laughing.gif
bulmabriefs144
 
  -1  
Tue 23 Nov, 2021 08:53 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Oh look, the same stupid reused gif.
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Tue 23 Nov, 2021 08:58 pm
@bulmabriefs144,
Try crossing your eyes, or perhaps alternatively blinking your eyes.

Here's a fresh one for you to practice on ...

https://c.tenor.com/5vKnZA8IzwIAAAAM/ray-liotta-laughing.gif
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