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..."to the vagrant gypsy's life"... WHERED THE SUMMER GO?

 
 
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 05:55 am
McTag, welcome aboard. Ive just been using this a an incidental log for our boat Iapetus. Im always glad when someone else joins our nautical interests, with their own. Look like you were up in the rigging a bit. From what I see of the ship, its got auto rigging . How are the shrouds controlled? Did it have the radar well concealed? I always like to inspect tall ships to see how each group conceals its radars so as not to "give away the illusion"

we keep running into a square rigged topsail schooner in Fundy (Id call it a goelette, from the Jal reference to the design). Its a RV by some marine org. Its in the Area off the S and SE ends ofNova SCotia. Weve never seen it under sail so it must always have been "on station" and was using auxiliary to keep constant speed and plane so we didnt want to hail it and get in the way.(Usually when someone rents a tall ship for resaerch, hey have enough trouble keeping it running true even with diesels running.

We have found some good websiteds for tracking Tallship RV's and trip logs of state asponsored tall ships like the Pride of BaltimoreII and the Sultana, and tyhe Kalmar Nyckel. (It seems that every state in the US now has a sponsored "tallship" to sail the seas and act as amabassador for the Chambers of Commerce.

We were out yesterday and it was beautiful. All we did was do a bit of Puffin watching and tripping up the bay. Today we let Iapetus take a break and were just going to clean her up a bit.
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McTag
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 08:54 am
The ship was built in 1937 and the rig is pretty much "as was".
There are no modern bottle screws (as far as I can remember) and no hydraulic adjusters. All the running rigging, braces, everything, is man-power only.
There is a capstan on the foredeck for the anchor warp, and this can be driven by capstan bars, but there is also a power option on that. Likewise on the main deck, for the main braces, but we never used that and hauled the braces by hand, 8 or 10 persons required.

The radar and other electronics are not hidden, but seem to blend quite well....I'll look for a photo to illustrate.
The ship is "Christian Radich", Oslo.

I saw the "Pride of Baltimore" at Cherbourg last year (she was later dismasted in the Bay of Biscay) and a very fine vessel she looks. It is my ambition to sail on her...and on a "Bluenose"- type American schooner too, if I can organise it.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 09:04 am
Quote: Im always glad when someone else joins our nautical interests, with their own.


Once, when I was 14 to be exact (the year was 1957), I built a raft of partially waterlogged boards found near a small pond. I poled myself about daily, singing "The Banana Boat Song (Day-O)," until after about four days, it went below the surface. Thus ended my boating career, for, sad to say, I never bought the yacht I always wanted to sail the world in.
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McTag
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 09:19 am
Here's the ship leaving Wellington Dock. Liverpool, bound for St Malo last month.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Tags1/P88.jpg
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littlek
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 09:43 am
Farmerman, My parents have driven up to Canada for a vacation (good timing too!) and are in the Bay of Fundy right now. They'll be heading back to their home on cape cod this tuesday.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 11:42 am
lil-k, the weather has been good but a bit humid, except out i the Bay and the Gulf (of MAine). So, if your folks are on a boat, its grand out there.

Edgar-I too had an experience as a kid , a bunch of us built a wooden kayak an although it looked pretty good, it sank first time out. Learned what "watertight" meant

McTag, There are a bunch of Jammer cruises on Gloucestermen. Yankee mgazine has a section on it as well as Downeast , or Sailboat.
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littlek
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 11:48 am
My mom sent an email saying it was in the 70s up there yesterday - lovely weather.
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McTag
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 12:59 pm
farmerman wrote:

McTag, There are a bunch of Jammer cruises on Gloucestermen. Yankee mgazine has a section on it as well as Downeast , or Sailboat.


Thanks. We don't get these magazines here, but I will seek something out.
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McTag
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 02:26 pm
farmerman wrote:
McTag, welcome aboard. Ive just been using this a an incidental log for our boat Iapetus. Im always glad when someone else joins our nautical interests, with their own. Looks like you were up in the rigging a bit.

Was I up in the rigging a bit? You're only looking at the star apprentice topman here. :wink:
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Did it have the radar well concealed? I always like to inspect tall ships to see how each group conceals its radars so as not to "give away the illusion"

Here is a picture showing the radar installation on the foremast. It's big, but such is the scale of everything else it doesn't look too obtrusive. The aim here I think is not to present a replica ship, but a modern sail training ship with up-to-date equipment, though run on traditional lines (no mechanical aids, roller reefing, or anything like that.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Tags1/DSC_0165.jpg
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We have found some good websiteds for tracking Tallship RV's and trip logs of state asponsored tall ships like the Pride of BaltimoreII and the Sultana, and the Kalmar Nyckel.

I would like to know more about that, if it's not too much trouble
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 02:53 pm
McTag. I dont have the list on my favorites but I do have one major collection of tall ship info and many display their websites LIST OF LIVING TALL SHIPS


Theres so many that he has em listed with an alphabetical directory.The Halie and Matthew isa new one that was just completed last year out of Eastport Maine. Its a gaff rigged two masted schooner and itll be taking long excursions into the Bay of Fundy and The Gulf of Maine.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 6 Aug, 2006 02:54 pm
McTag. I dont have the list on my favorites but I do have one major collection of tall ship info and many display their websites LIST OF LIVING TALL SHIPS


Theres so many that he has em listed with an alphabetical directory.The Halie and Matthew is a new one that was just completed last year out of Eastport Maine.(I dont believe its on SChoonerman yet) Its a gaff rigged two masted schooner and itll be taking long excursions into the Bay of Fundy and The Gulf of Maine. Well, on reconsideration, the list is not complete and some of the schooners(like the ones built at Percy and Smalls in Bath , Maine, just dont exist anymore because these were six and seven masted schooners used to haul coal and oil)
The list is at least a start
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McTag
 
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Reply Mon 7 Aug, 2006 02:05 am
Thanks Farmerman, plenty of information there to go at.

A magazine I enjoy here, on the odd occasions I buy it, is called "Classic Boat", and coincidentally I believe they are starting to distribute it in the USA this month.

http://www.zinio.com/express?issue=135234507
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 13 Aug, 2006 09:04 pm
We went out to Nova Scotia again. It was a nice clear trip. We satyed out on the sea last night to watch the meteor shower . It was quite nice but the moon was so bright that any camera shots were just too bright to catch the meteors. We counted as many as 2 a secon at max time(9about 2 to 3 AM) and more than 10 a minute most of the night. I wish Id taken a film camera. (some things that film cannot be beat, besides the obvious issue of extreme detail). We saw some whales that seemed to be sleeping at the surface. They didnt move much and when we turned on the engine to idle, they seemed to start. In the last month 2 whales were killed right off Grand Manaan and one was a Right whale, the other a small finback. Both were about 35 or 40 ft and washed ashore on the seawrd sides of the Canadian islands of manaan and Campobello. The Right whale was really boogered up by a ships prop. (This area gets lots of commercial shipping and theres a proposal for 2 LNG plants in the Passamaquoddy Bay. Its got a slim margin of people who are against the proposal , mostly because the area is a rich ground for all sorts of ground fisheries and is in the center of a major seismic activity zone
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littlek
 
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Reply Mon 14 Aug, 2006 08:20 am
FArmerman, do you know of the joggin cliffs?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 14 Aug, 2006 09:15 am
Lil k, Ive been to the Joggins Cliffs many times, They are on the other side of Nova Scotia. Im quite familiar with them because the Creationists have tried to use the fossil trees at Joggins to "prove' that polystrate fossils exist (a polystrate fossil is one that seemingly "pierces" two or more formations, thus indicating that the formation was not separated by great periiods of time. In the case of joggins, the fosils are so jumbled up hat dead trees are ound in the coal measures upside down and sideways. Further, coal swamps can form in realtively short time periods since they are mostly veggie mats separated by influxes of outwash sands and muds.

There is always an environmental answer to polystrate fossils that Creationists fail to uinderstand.
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littlek
 
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Reply Mon 14 Aug, 2006 05:32 pm
That's typical! I ask because my parents (mother) brought back a chunk with what she believes is a fossil (it was laying on the ground, she didn't excavate it). Whether she's found herself a fossil is still up for debate.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 16 Aug, 2006 07:19 am
Taking a couple of old guys out tuna fishing this AM. We leave at 10 and well go out the Campobello Neck and out towards Grand Manaan about 25 miles or so. The tuna have been runni9ng like crazy so we fixed up some nifty rigs late last night.
I hope these guys enjoy themselves. One guy is in his 80's and still drives a beautiful Eurobus RV . Its a real neat machine with all the special features for "assistance", like low cabinets and easy storage. Now if I can get em to concentrate on the fish and not so much on kvetching about politics.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 22 Aug, 2006 03:10 pm
squidmeat and rockweed in my thrusters
Iapetus has an impacted bow thruster on the starboard side. Its a real bitch because, as I can best determine, the rockweed harvests in Cobscook and Passamaquoddy Bays has left a lot of rockweed "chaff" that gets sucked into the intakes. I spent this morning plunging and poking and then I had the gerat idea of RR the boat out and , with the aft intakes closed, I ran a power jet through the port side and out came what looked like part of a dead squid mixed in with about a half bushel of rockweed. MAn was the squid vile. Ive seen dead **** before but this was about the size of a Humbolt squid grasping tentacle. There were bits of some of the suckers left and they each ahve a small hooklike protuberance in the center of each cup. I got some isopropyl alcohol and jammed in the parts that arent chewed up and Im gonna send it down to a buddy at Woods Hole..
Normally We would see lots of little squid when we dove around "Dog Island" at night looking for photo ops when they show color but this thing had to be at least 5 or 6 feet long which is getting a little big for these northern waters.
I dont believe that A. Dux is a common resident up here and this would have been too small anyway. A mystery unfolds.

What this also says is that I need some means of opening and closing the thruster intakes at the back of the boat.
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 22 Aug, 2006 03:28 pm
Farmerman, sounds like you found the kraken...or it found you. You had a lucky escape. :wink:
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 22 Aug, 2006 03:35 pm
Yaaar, no kraken be allowed in me thruster props. I hope it aint badly wounded.
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