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..."to the vagrant gypsy's life"... WHERED THE SUMMER GO?

 
 
ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 08:53 pm
Me, I love the drawings...
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 1 Aug, 2005 09:15 pm
yup. sort of an attempt at as accurate a visual as possible for the day.

Thanks. I remember a tale of how the ships would take a long time to actually get underway, but I never really understaood how they got from their moorings to
where they could use their sails.
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 2 Aug, 2005 12:21 am
Fascinating stuff. I know in the days of the press gang, naval ships would not lie alongside for long, if at all. They would be moored or anchored, and serviced by numerous wherries and lighters.

Merchant ships could be warped in or out of docks and harbours, and rowed too, in the days when labour was cheap (or free). I daresay horse power was used at times, and capstans turned by man power. Just the same, there was bound to be a lot of "waiting for the tide" and "waiting for a fair wind".

Sometimes ships were moved by using the tidal stream alone, and anchoring when the tide was foul. The anchors themselves could be moved using smaller boats, I think, and limited movement thus achieved that way. Man's ingenuity knows no bounds.

Albert Dock at Liverpool, now a museum, (part of Merseyside Maritime Museum http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/maritime/ )is an example of a commercial dock system dating from just before the age of iron shipbuilding.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 2 Aug, 2005 12:38 am
Not to forget the Lonson Docks (especially, since I stayed around there during the London gathering :wink: ):

http://www.londonancestor.com/maps/bc-poplar-s-th.jpg

http://www.portcities.org.uk/london/upload/img_400/PU1435.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cc/St_katharine_docks_1828.jpg

http://www.londonancestor.com/views/vl-docks1.jpg


http://www.bardaglea.org.uk/bridges/docklands/images/dm01_windiadock1810.jpg
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 2 Aug, 2005 01:14 am
Related to McTag's turn:

Lost Tall Ship found off Germany
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Mr Stillwater
 
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Reply Tue 2 Aug, 2005 03:16 am
Don't look to damn 'tall' to me...

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41366000/jpg/_41366135_smialy203.jpg

Sorta 'itty-bitty'.


A 'tall-ship' is more like...

http://www.polyflex.com.au/images/AAjames%20craig%20at%20sea.02.jpg
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 2 Aug, 2005 04:27 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Not to forget the London Docks (especially, since I stayed around there during the London gathering :wink: ):


All of which makes you think. Just how, and by how much effort, did they manage to bring seagoing sailing ships up the Thames to the Pool of London, a distance of about 25 miles from the estuary, in a westerly direction when the prevailing wind is often westerly? Which had been done since Roman times.
I suppose the answer is, any damn way they could, by a combination of means.

I take my hat off to these old guys.
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McTag
 
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Reply Sun 7 Aug, 2005 01:54 am
International efforts save Russian submariners.
British vessel cuts sub free.
All crew alive.
Hooray!
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 7 Aug, 2005 08:34 am
Wow.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 7 Aug, 2005 10:50 am
Note to self: When vacation over, go invent a ships sized version of rebreathing reactor.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 13 Aug, 2005 05:59 pm
Continuing log of Iapetus

Got our boat back and it runs like a dream. The skeg is all positioned in a perfect line with the keel and it cuts like a knife. (Course 24 knots top end, aint exactly cigarette speed)
Went after tuna off Grand Manan yesterday. Caught a smallish one that didnt require all day to land. We divvied it up among the neighbors who mostly didnt know what to do with it until my wife went around with grilling recipes.
Apparently today there was a run on Sesame splashes and salad dressings at Wally Mart in Calais.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 13 Aug, 2005 06:11 pm
Happy you are even at last...
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McTag
 
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Reply Sun 14 Aug, 2005 12:49 am
Good news, glad to hear that you're operational again, Farmerman.

If my lottery ticket comes up, I would like to have a boat with a displacement hull on the lines of the MFV boats seen around the northern coasts of Britain. I saw a dandy one as we were coming into the Tyne, evidently in private hands but it looked as though it had started life as a fisheries cruiser- looked to be about 50 or 60 feet long, with a useful deckhouse and plenty of deck space. Shame my camera memory chip was full by that time.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 14 Aug, 2005 07:57 am
McT,Thats how our boat started out. We spent almost 11 years and significant cash to restore and rebuild, but now its really a humdinger.
There is an inflatable cruiser thats made in UK, I think its called a "Pursuit". Ive seen one around the upper Bay of Fundy near Parrsboro. Its low and looks exteremely fast for an express cruiser. Its about 45 ft long with a Series of inflatable gunwales and a "glas" bottom. The one we saw just ran away from us ( even with a modified Deep Vee we push alot of water)
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 25 Aug, 2005 02:31 pm
Our end of the summer cruise is out to Sable Island. (we plan for Newfoundland Next Year).
With this K storm off Florida, it may just be up in our neck by Labor Day weekend , when we will have been out to sea for 4 days already.
We sail and then bring er back and put er away for another winters sleep.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 25 Aug, 2005 06:27 pm
Buon viaggio, bonny lad and lass. Please skirt the big weather...
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 28 Aug, 2005 07:49 pm
Provisioning of Iapetus.
Today weve beefed up the boats stores for at least a week straight running. Most marinas are horrid oily places to buy food, and most of the crap they sell is so expired youd need to do a C14 test.
Weve filled with boxez and canned goods. Since we're moored and tied to shore power now, we can keep the electric refer going and tomorrow Ill load up with perishibles in the main refer and the deck freezer. All this goes to gas/ diesel after were underway. Veggies include onions, garlic spuds (lots cause we often run into "buy boats" that we can buy scallops or lobsters or mackerel.)
We have lots of "luncheables for bridge snacks while were driving and dont have time to drift and cook.
Tea and chocolate drinks for hot drinks is our choice cause coffee can get stale and stink up the entire pilot house .My only gripe is that one of our favorite underway foods is spaghetti. (its hearty, warming and takes only 2 pots) Why dont they make spaghetti sauces in plastic containers instead of glass? Would it spoil? They can make things in squarish plastic bottles and save us shelf and pantry space (we have a small slide out pantry that battens down in weather)

Well be broadcasting on VHF to coastline contacts and Canadian CG.
We put out on Wednesday and will be back probably by the weekend after LAbor day, longer if we decide to habg out with some friends..
I hope that this time our pictures work out better than the last trip in2003. Our batteries were all salt water affected so we drained them quickly. Now we have a marine power pack from Capn Dicks. and it can be powered up via a 20 min shot on an inverter.

Boats all tight and ready for a 2000 nm trip. Were looking forward and Although Ill still be on line on "the other threads" till Tues, I wish to thank all of you whove been so nice to an old disagreeable fart like me. We will pilot safely. We are USCG inspected and all safety gear is primed and loaded. We bought exposure suits for each other for Xmas 2 years ago and theyre still in the bags , so we took em out and hung em in a locker on board.


We hunt fer the WHITE WHALE (the little ones , the belugas). Wish us safe trip,as Im very superstitious (maybe Im just OCD)
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 28 Aug, 2005 08:00 pm
I do wish you a safe trip, and a fine time.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 28 Aug, 2005 08:08 pm
Wishing the FarmerCrew a safe journey.


<just saw your reference to Parrsboro again. Huge happy childhood flashback>
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 28 Aug, 2005 08:53 pm
thanks. we shall be home safe. Im always a bit nervous going out past the Head Harbor.
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