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Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?

 
 
parados
 
  2  
Thu 19 Jan, 2012 01:50 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:


Try reading Rider Haggard's Queen Sheba's Ring to see if you can refine your sense of humour and also, as a bonus, learn a little bit about the unscientific antics of humans.


That's like suggesting people read "The Hobbit" to learn how to treat "little people."
spendius
 
  1  
Thu 19 Jan, 2012 02:16 pm
@parados,
I've never read The Hobbit because everyone I knew who had were a little odd.

I suspect you either haven't read QSR. or read it too fast.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 19 Jan, 2012 03:15 pm
@spendius,
spendi, Haven't you also considered that fact that you might be the odd man out? LOL
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farmerman
 
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Thu 19 Jan, 2012 03:20 pm
@parados,
I found the Allen Quartermain adventure stories as bad as some of Clive Cusslers tripe.
Haggard and Cussler were a lot alike, theyd confuse quantity for quality
Joe Nation
 
  1  
Thu 19 Jan, 2012 03:27 pm
@spendius,
I just read the reviews on QSR.

um

I'm really not into adventure stories.

Joe(and he's the one who keeps harping about this being a Science thread. meh)Nation
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spendius
 
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Thu 19 Jan, 2012 04:17 pm
@farmerman,
I don't know anything about Clive Cussler so there's nothing I can say about him.

There's more to RH than meets the eye. He's terrific. Henry Miller thought so too. But he couldn't explain what it was. And 'Ol Henry could explain most things.

I was once in correspondence with an ex-military man who had been an aide to the poshest when desked. He wrote articles for one of Conrad Black's rags and for a Beaver Magazine. King Solomon's Mines came up and he said how much he had enjoyed it as a teenager. I told him to read it now to see if it made him laugh. A few weeks later he told me he had read it again and had never laughed so much in his life.

QSR is even funnier. Is CC funny fm. Moby Dick was pretty good in that line of work.

I bet every decent scriptwriter has read RH. To have seen Borgnine do Quatermain would have laid me out.

There's a deeply religious theme in QSR. It's about one tribe trying to blow another tribe's idol up with the scheming, beautiful female Child of Kings using four nutcase Englishmen she has lured into the field of the action to do it.

I'm late.
spendius
 
  1  
Thu 19 Jan, 2012 06:02 pm
@spendius,
The last paragraph of Chap VII reads--

Quote:
Such was our introduction to Barung, Sultan of the Fung, a barbarian with many good points, among them courage, generosity, and appreciation of those qualities even in a foe, characteristics that may have been intensified by the blood of his mother, who, I am told, was an Arab of high lineage captured by the Fung in war and given as a wife to the father of Barung.


Read that you evolutionists.

Generosity and courage. The very qualities of Jesus.

Exogamy.

And a neat joke for fellow weavers of the winds--"I am told".
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 19 Jan, 2012 06:24 pm
@spendius,
That has nothing to do with "evolution."
reasoning logic
 
  1  
Thu 19 Jan, 2012 06:39 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Maybe that is Spendius's way of viewing The Evolution of Jesus


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spendius
 
  1  
Fri 20 Jan, 2012 09:40 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
That has nothing to do with "evolution."


You don't think you got like you are do you ci. from a standing start the day after the missing link was found? Surely?

You on a cruise ship ordering cocktails with a little plastic, pink-umbrella to keep the rain off imagining that you are being seen by witnesses in one of your aesthetically superior manifestations.

How the **** did that happen?

If propofol had been around the day after the missing link was found they would have been snorting it from the Big Chief down to the meanest nit picker.

There is a spiritual evolution you know. Your compassion and empathy with the poor and downtrodden of this world, which we all admire you for, and I'm confident I speak for the others here, had to be evolved to get you from then to now. Intelligently evolved of course.

It's a long story mate. So long, so complex, that it's laughable to think Shagger Darwin could have told it in a series of repetitive essays. Shagger Dawkins keeps a copy by him.

I can't understand why anybody is interested in them from a non-practical point of view or as a vehicle for comic undertakings. There's not a sign in them of anything that could even rub two sticks together to get a fire going apart from the odd mystical hyperbole about "man". It's like following a brick manufacturers delivery truck and going "WOW!!" at each different structure bricks can be laid to good effect. Or 500 trucks.

What would scientists on the day after the missing link was found have done? Staring into the middle-distance meditating disinterestedly on its own wouldn't have made much progress imo. (Assuming progress is a good thing).

Suppose religion was a catalyst. fm will tell you what one of them is.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 20 Jan, 2012 11:27 am
@spendius,
You're talking about economic progress, not human evolution.
spendius
 
  1  
Fri 20 Jan, 2012 02:42 pm
@cicerone imposter,
No I'm not. But if you would like to discuss the catalyst of religion in economic transformation feel free.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 20 Jan, 2012 02:59 pm
@spendius,
Religion has always been about control - of people and their money. It's totally economics.
spendius
 
  1  
Fri 20 Jan, 2012 03:54 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Do you wish to discuss the absence of control then?
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 20 Jan, 2012 04:01 pm
@spendius,
There are many avenues of control beginning with parents, siblings, religion, job, laws, police, partner, government, and your own subjective thinking process.
spendius
 
  1  
Fri 20 Jan, 2012 04:06 pm
@cicerone imposter,
That won't do ci. Religion sets the tone for the others. Or is intended to do.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 20 Jan, 2012 04:17 pm
@spendius,
It's your myopia that makes you think religion always influences everything else. It doesn't "set the tone for others." If it does, why did Russia, North Korea, and Cuba suffer so much - without religion? It's the governments that influenced their economy and lifestyles.
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reasoning logic
 
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Fri 20 Jan, 2012 04:25 pm
@spendius,
Code:That won't do ci. Religion sets the tone for the others. Or is intended to do.


From my observation it seems to set a tone that is far from the teachings of Jesus.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 20 Jan, 2012 04:53 pm
@reasoning logic,
spendi has the habit of not explaining the details of such words as "tone." Meaningless babble.
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spendius
 
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Fri 20 Jan, 2012 06:17 pm
@reasoning logic,
Quote:
From my observation it seems to set a tone that is far from the teachings of Jesus.


It's being worked on rl. Rome wasn't built in a day. It's not a dollop of potter's clay dontcha know.
 

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