Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?

with logic like that, how can you lose spendi? Confused

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Exactly--simple, straightforward logic never does lose.

I don't see what there was to confuse you though

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you were being serious???? Shocked

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I was trying to be a bit anthropological.

Not serious. I don't see what there is to be serious about.

Where do you see a difficulty?

The US once threatened to impose trade sanctions on the UK and they knew very accurately which items to choose which would inconvenience the US least and cause maximum political impact here. And we are best friends it is said.

Baton Rouge must be a pretty advantageous place for men in decent jobs with only 86 of them to every 100 women. Had you noticed any effects regarding that. It's a striking statistic.

Do men get stalked there?

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I don't think you're going to be getting anywhere after this, spendius: "
Anybody looking at such a secondary source from a scientific point of view will know far more about La. than any visitor who was enjoying the experience. Way more. Off your radar fm. "

See, you fail at that whole scientific thing. You fail very, very hard at it. And that's even if we assume your statement is in any way an accurate portrayal of fm's experience, which I would seriously doubt it is.

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Your experience outweighs my present knowledge from secondary sources but not my future possible knowledge if I took the trouble.

Will all due respect, how often do you walk around flashing your penis at everyone, noting its size, texture, and shape (and how superior all of those qualities are)?

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[Sigh] There has always been an evolution thread handy in the religion forum. I can see its eternal presence has been reproduced here.

It's a religion. There is no science to it. I could equally propose a theory stating that there is an invisible pink unicorn with disc brakes, an inbuilt microwave and surround sound speakers and call it a scientific theory.

Farmerman may I ask, with no jesting intended, what spendi did to make you hate him so? It seems there is a long-term battle between you two lon-standing members - a clash of the titans, as it were. Laughing

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aperson wrote:

It's a religion. There is no science to it. I could equally propose a theory stating that there is an invisible pink unicorn with disc brakes, an inbuilt microwave and surround sound speakers and call it a scientific theory.

Then do so. What are your theory's predictions and how are they falsifiable?

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Also, others must be able to repeat it to validate the theory.

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It's a religion. There is no science to it.

That post merely shows your ignorance of what real science is and how it works. However, its not a condition that cannot be remedied. All it takes is a little discipline to learn and some effort to read.

I love it when people, un able to discern fact and evidence , dont let that failing get in the way of their preaching. I hope youre not a teacher ,a person.

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Shirakawasuna wrote:

Then do so. What are your theory's predictions and how are they falsifiable?

farmerman wrote:

That post merely shows your ignorance of what real science is and how it works. However, its not a condition that cannot be remedied. All it takes is a little discipline to learn and some effort to read.

I think you and Shira (Troll Food), are misinterpreting APerson's post.

I could be wrong, but I think APerson is saying that *ID* is not science (which is something we already knew). He's not saying *evolution* is not science.

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Mr S. wrote-

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aperson wrote:
It's a religion. There is no science to it. I could equally propose a theory stating that there is an invisible pink unicorn with disc brakes, an inbuilt microwave and surround sound speakers and call it a scientific theory.

Then do so. What are your theory's predictions and how are they falsifiable?

The evolution of Media theory might fit ap's description given a bit of poetic licence of the type a few of Mr Darwin's friends had some amusement with.

I have seen a prediction that those people who drive everywhere, take lifts and sit at desks all day and on couches all evening will have their legs wither away and that the condition will be inheritable. And if they don't curtail their eating the efficencies involved will result in their heads expanding to twice or three times the present sizes which will, of course mean that they will become two or three times more intelligent and the skin of their necks will harden to the viscosity of a turtle-shell in order to support such a magnifient and resplendent edifice.

In fact the Treens are more or less like that although they were green all over which may be so that they had a pleasant view when they tried to get their heads up their arses which is necesaary for mental health in view of the length of time it took them to complete the manoeuvre. Green is a restful colour which is why the walls of my school's infirmary were painted in it.

Whether spending one's life thinking scientifically will outcrop in a speech pattern like the Daleks I don't know but I often think I detect the first stirrings of such a mutation which is likely to be inheritable as well.

How exactly, forgetting assertions, teleologies, self-serving speculations and blind guesswork for a moment, can evolution theory be falsified?

I feel sure it must be falsifiable because anti-IDers would not accept it if it wasn't. Falsifiable I mean.

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I can easily get my head up my arse as everybody knows. In fact fm asserts that it is up there all the time and what fm asserts is a scientific fact because he's a scientist and they are always right.

Which means of course that my head is not very big and my arse is not tight and costively constricted in a permanent sphincter-muscle spasm.

It's actually quite a handy operation to be able to pull-off.

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rosborne919 wrote:

I think you and Shira (Troll Food), are misinterpreting APerson's post.

I could be wrong, but I think APerson is saying that *ID* is not science (which is something we already knew). He's not saying *evolution* is not science.

Hmm, me too. Better uh... safe than sorry?

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Ref-: Secondary sources/Experience.

I read this earlier in an article about John Wood who originated and runs Room to Read which is a charity taking books into poor countries. The article is quoting Mr Wood saying-

"We lived in a small town in Pennsylvania where there wasn't a lot of intellectual ferment. But we had two libraries through which I learnt about the world."

Seeing the world, as the barkers for foreign travel say, is a hopeless way of actually seeing it. The world is so vast and we are so minute that the idea is actually ridiculous.

And a secondary source, such as Cervantes, or Feilding, can show you a world that it is now impossible to experience.

And for $2 in a second-hand bookshop and the capacity to doze off at will on the recliner whilst missing nothing.

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c.i. wrote-

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Also, others must be able to repeat it to validate the theory.

How would you be able to do that with evolution theory?

ros- I read ap's post the way Mr S. did. The "sigh" suggested it and there was nothing that followed to contradict that impression. It couldn't have been a sigh of boredom because ap wouldn't be reading the thread if the subject bored him.

ap also goaded fm.

And ap is also correct. Evolution theory is not science. It is called that by its practioners to cosy up to the cachet real science has in the public mind. Animal husbandry and crop improvement procedures have been known about for thousands of years. Plato's fascism is likely based on the "modern science" of his day.

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spendi

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Seeing the world, as the barkers for foreign travel say, is a hopeless way of actually seeing it.

I see how Mathos has been handing you an education from his trips to the far EAst. Hes told you everything that YOU know about the subject, not everything HE knows. Ah well, if youre just trying to placate your inability to handl travel (either by financial means or just plain laziness) , thats noone else concern but yours. Your attempts at being convincing are pitifully short.

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In fact fm asserts that it is up there all the time and what fm asserts is a scientific fact because he's a scientist and they are always right.

Correction, Your head has mostly been up your ass SO FAR, I have only relied upon available data and , of course you may decide to remove your head from your cloaca at any time you wish, although, perhaps you just feel safer in that position.

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my arse is not tight

What you do in the privacy of your bathroom stalls is of no concern to me. However, you can spare me of any additional detail.

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fm wrote-

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I see how Mathos has been handing you an education from his trips to the far EAst. Hes told you everything that YOU know about the subject, not everything HE knows.

I haven't the time to spare to engage in that dross fm.

Mathos has only one subject. Himself, and what a wonderful guy he is. Have you not noticed that?

The Orient, in such a scheme is a sort of catwalk. A stage set. Talk about patronising the peoples of those places.

Laziness is perfectly natural. It's a result of evolution husbanding scarce resources. It is perverted and neurotic to not be lazy.

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The Beat Goes On

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The Arizona Daily Star
Published: 06.25.2008

Bill sneaks religion into schools
By Gilbert Shapiro
SPECIAL TO THE ARIZONA DAILY STAR
On June 18, preliminary approval was given by state senators to House Bill 2713

In a Letter to the editor a science teacher wrote:

Re: the June 25 guest opinion "Bill sneaks religion into schools" by Gilbert Shapiro.
As written, the bill would allow any student's religious beliefs to supercede Arizona standards for education.
As an example, one of the standards seventh-graders are required to master is knowledge of the rock and fossil record, and geologic time.
If the bill becomes law, a student could write about his/her religious beliefs regarding the rock and fossil record and teachers would be required to grade the student on how well the student's religious beliefs were expressed rather than on whether or not the student mastered the state standard.
Furthermore, teachers could be sued for not deferring to the student's religious beliefs. The state measures student progress by assessing how well they learn state standards. How will that happen if students can opt out of learning due to religious beliefs?
Martin Wiggins
Middle school science teacher, Tucson

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I think that Roberts will be unaffected by these new "laws" , and would rule in a fashion that harkens back to his statements he made during his Senate hearing.Otherwise he too would be a hypocrite.

Alito, Scalia, and Thomas would, I believe , form a "Taliban" of Conservative Catholicism and would be swayed to more closely align church and state , as openly professed by Alito in his Sunday /6/29 appearances on AM TV.These guys want an openly activist court.

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Well--you can't expect them to concede the field to lazy sods like you fm who think they can just assert what's what without the bother of giving the social system the attention some would say it deserves.

We all have a soft spot for easy riders and surfers but I'm not sure we want them running things.

By "we" I mean the consenus as I understand it. Not me personally.

Even a cursory reading of Mr Darwin's works is enough to show that it's all on autopilot.

The House of Commons, The Senate, Congress, White House, Kremlin, The Forbidden City, The Tinwald, The Advisory Committee of the Federation of Amalgamated West-Yorkshire Sagger Makers and Bottom Knocker's Bowling League (Second Division), the President of which, one Albert Grimshanks, OBE, was expelled shortly after Ms Germaine Greer landed at Heathrow Airport, for wife beating, are manned and womaned by a bunch of actors like Shakespeare said.

It's all on auto. Darwin is the proof.

Everthing else is bullshit.

When Science finds the Higgs Boson it will say "I am at your command oh great and noble one. What is it you wish?

"Pump green juice into the grid to the maximum of your ability," Science would inevitably reply. "This lot can take it in big doses."

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