Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?

It's part and parcel of Marxist-Leninism. A scientific given. What's "pitiful" about a well known fact.

Thank God we have scientists who are willing to push against the conventional wisdom and look for answers not fully addressed by what science is currently known. Those who can truly claim to be scientists I think are those who accept that we know a very small fraction of all that there is to know. If we didn't have such brave independent thinkers with sufficient curiosity and courage to endure the 'idiot' label, I think we would all still be part of the Flat Earth Society.

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:37 am Post subject:

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It would seem that anybody questioning anything regarding evolution is now branded an 'idiot' or "IDjit" or whatever by the leftwing, anti-religious, and/or anti-ID group. And therein lies the huge part of the problem in this whole debate.

"Of course, I'm not equating the evolution people with Fidel Castro," he quickly added, while noting that undermining the family and the church were key means the Communist Party used to gain control in Cuba.

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Thank God we have scientists who are willing to push against the conventional wisdom and look for answers not fully addressed by what science is currently known. Those who can truly claim to be scientists I think are those who accept that we know a very small fraction of all that there is to know. If we didn't have such brave independent thinkers with sufficient curiosity and courage to endure the 'idiot' label, I think we would all still be part of the Flat Earth Society.

These scientists that are "pushing against the conventional wisdom" are who? name a few if you please. Lets examine what theyre pushing. Im willing to bet that they, not their counters , are the ones who believe in a flat earth.

Foxy, I love the way your logic (or whatever it is) works. You take on an arguments point and then, just as your point is savaged into a pulp, you change it 180 degrees.o you know that you do this frequently?

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It would seem that anybody questioning anything regarding evolution is now branded an 'idiot' or "IDjit" or whatever by the leftwing, anti-religious, and/or anti-ID group. And therein lies the huge part of the problem in this whole debate.

Yet, in earlier posts , you agreed that you only want the theory of evolution taught in science, now your calling these same people what you consider nasty names. Of course I wear my Anti IDJIT, leftwing, agnostic patch real comfortably cause I dont need no steenkeng name calling to make my point.

Try to find a comfortable point from which to speak and serve up some evidence to support it. You bounce around from position to position hoping we dont notice.

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"Of course, I'm not equating the evolution people with Fidel Castro," he quickly added, while noting that undermining the family and the church were key means the Communist Party used to gain control in Cuba.

HMMMM, now who sounds like this guy?

Atheists, individuals and heads of state, do attempt to effect mind control by denouncing or belittling or making illegal if possible any other point of view. That beautifully describes one camp in the ID group. They don't want any inference to ID or any language used that would suggest that Evolution is not all students need to know as the underpinnings for biology. And that, is a form of attempted mind control.

What I said was " part and parcel of Marxist-Leninism. A scientific given." was the taking education out of the control of parents and placing it in the hands of public institutions.

I never mentioned Darwin or Evolution in the context. I see those things as a wedge to state run, scientific, dead-end education. Lenin used guns. Lenin wouldn't waste any energy on Darwin.

The straw men are all on your side.

That is unless you're presenting a strawman to reject science in general and a return to the dominance of the mother church, feudalism, dark ages, hairshirts and plague.

Care to explain c.i.

If only because it would make a change and that's the buzzword these days.

His father and mother were so wonderfully uncoercive that Sonny (GBS) never suffered from the meddlesomeness of morbidly conscientious parents. They acted as if education was a natural attribute, like breathing or digestion; and since no one took malevolent pleasure in indoctrinating him, he was left with very little to unlearn--almost nothing, for example, in the way of moral or religious instruction. No obstacle was put in the path of taking his lessons from actual experience and finding out what he must never expect from life. 'I had to learn everything by breaking my shins over it,' he wrote, 'and to become wise by making a fool of myself from the very beginning.' From his observations he soon deduced the wonderful impersonality of sex, and the kindness and good sense of distancing yourself from people you loved. Though he abhorred any ill-treatment of children, it was not long before he realized that love was wasted on them. Nobody was capable of love until he has earned it. To sail out into adult life demanding it as a natural inheritance invited shipwreck. He kept afloat where others sank.

I don't have any bloody beliefs you silly moo.

Whatever gave you that impression?

Join a remedial reading course for fewkies sake.

The understatement of the year by a self-abosrbed minion of the
Ego Class.