wandeljw wrote:FLORIDA UPDATE
Quote:New state science standards find opponent on the board
(St. Petersburg Times, December 5, 2007)
State Board of Education member Donna Callaway said she will vote against the proposed new state science standards because evolution "should not be taught to the exclusion of other theories of origin of life." Further, she hopes "there will be times of prayer throughout Christian homes and churches directed toward this issue," according to a Nov. 30 column in the Florida Baptist Witness, a weekly newspaper based in Jacksonville.
The board will vote on the new standards early next year. Educators and scientists have generally given them a good review. Callaway is the highest-profile critic to surface since the draft standards were released in October.
I hope "there will be times of prayer throughout Christian homes and churches directed toward" saving us from people like Donna.
rosborne979 wrote:wandeljw wrote:FLORIDA UPDATE
Quote:New state science standards find opponent on the board
(St. Petersburg Times, December 5, 2007)
State Board of Education member Donna Callaway said she will vote against the proposed new state science standards because evolution "should not be taught to the exclusion of other theories of origin of life." Further, she hopes "there will be times of prayer throughout Christian homes and churches directed toward this issue," according to a Nov. 30 column in the Florida Baptist Witness, a weekly newspaper based in Jacksonville.
The board will vote on the new standards early next year. Educators and scientists have generally given them a good review. Callaway is the highest-profile critic to surface since the draft standards were released in October.
I hope "there will be times of prayer throughout Christian homes and churches directed toward" saving us from people like Donna.
rosborne,
What surprised me even more is that a state school board member mischaracterizes evolution as a theory about the "origin of life".
wandeljw wrote:rosborne979 wrote:wandeljw wrote:FLORIDA UPDATE
Quote:New state science standards find opponent on the board
(St. Petersburg Times, December 5, 2007)
State Board of Education member Donna Callaway said she will vote against the proposed new state science standards because evolution "should not be taught to the exclusion of other theories of origin of life." Further, she hopes "there will be times of prayer throughout Christian homes and churches directed toward this issue," according to a Nov. 30 column in the Florida Baptist Witness, a weekly newspaper based in Jacksonville.
The board will vote on the new standards early next year. Educators and scientists have generally given them a good review. Callaway is the highest-profile critic to surface since the draft standards were released in October.
I hope "there will be times of prayer throughout Christian homes and churches directed toward" saving us from people like Donna.
rosborne,
What surprised me even more is that a state school board member mischaracterizes evolution as a theory about the "origin of life".
Why would it surprise you that Donna would mischaracterize evolution in that particular way. The basis of her viewpoint seems pretty clear; she's driven by her religion, not her desire for accurate science. And religion (in particular, fundamental christianity) has always recognized the implication of evolution, even while misunderstand it's actual mechanisms.
wande-
This constitutes chucking a live rabbit onto the dogtrack.
These ladies on the boards are not particulary up to speed on things like science and religion. And that applies to both sides.
The ladies from Polk looked like mutton dressed up as lamb so truth is obviously not their main consideration.
Vanity-Science or Religion.
spendius wrote:Thanks Pauli.
Have you any details on the "financial scandals" and on Mr Jackson's "formal family organisation"?
How many teachers recieved a copy of Mr Behe's book?
On the board's web pages it looked like Mr Patel had been replaced by a lady.
Am I right in thinking--
1- That in Rio Rancho the divide goes on gender lines? There seems to be a lot of ladies supporting the "no religion" line and the opposite position is guarded by men with dolicho-blond ancestry. The ladies had a majority on the Polk school board.
2- That education in RR is conducted according to whether or not there could be a court challenge from "one angry parent"?
3- That the scientific justification for monogamous practice and age of consent laws, both of which are contrary to evolution theory, will be critically discussed in the district's schools bilogy lessons?
4- That had Mr Jackson not been accused of financial irregularities, either because he engaged in none or had not been discovered, the children of the district would be getting a different education from the one they will now get, if only for the time being.
5- New text books be required as a result of the latest vote?
PS- Have you any details on voter turn-out in the election for board members and on the mechanics involved?
The books
http://www.nmsr.org/omdahl.htm
financial scandals
http://www.krqe.com/global/story.asp?s=6907563&ClientType=Printable
The rest is pretty much covered in the pandasthumb link in the original post.
More on State Educator Opposed to New Florida Standards:
Quote:Florida educator to oppose rule on teaching evolution only
(Leslie Postal, Orlando Sentinel, December 6, 2007)
A key state official plans to vote against Florida's proposed new science standards because evolution would be taught in public schools to the "exclusion of other theories of origin of life."
Donna Callaway of the State Board of Education told the Florida Baptist Witness that she will oppose the new standards because they do not give teachers leeway to acknowledge other views, according to an editorial posted on the paper's Web site last week.
Callaway is one of seven state board members who have final say on the standards. The board could vote on them as early as next month.
The former Tallahassee middle school principal is the first board member to make public comment on the standards. Neither Callaway nor other board members could be reached Wednesday.
The proposed standards are controversial because they would, for the first time, require public school students to learn about evolution. The current standards, adopted in 1996, do not use the word evolution but require the teaching of evolutionary concepts. They have been criticized as weak and vague, which is why state officials wanted new ones.
The editorial urged Baptists to speak out against them because they attempt "to make evolution dogma" the rule and ignore the belief that God or an "intelligent cause" created living things.
The editorial appears in the Dec. 6 issue of the Baptist newspaper, which should arrive in some 40,000 homes starting today, said James Smith, the publication's executive editor. Callaway contacted him about sharing her views, he said.
In the editorial, Callaway is quoted as saying she agreed with teaching evolution but wanted other theories explored, too.
"I firmly believe that a child can deal with the proof of science along with a personal belief in God as the Creator of the universe at the same time. The classroom should allow him, openly, that opportunity," she said.
Callaway, a veteran public school educator, was appointed to the state board in 2004 by former Gov. Jeb Bush. The Baptist newspaper identified her as a "longtime, active member" of First Baptist Church in Tallahassee and said she hoped there would be "times of prayer" directed to this issue.
Callaway's comments in a church-based paper troubles Florida Citizens for Science, which supports the new proposals.
"She's allowing her personal religious views to cloud her judgment on science education in Florida," said Brandon Haught, the group's spokesman and a Lake County resident. "We need to trust the subject-matter experts . . . these new standards were written by subject-matter experts."
The proposed standards were written by teachers and professors with the goal of beefing up science education in Florida, where fewer than half the students are proficient on state science tests. The state released the new standards in October, giving the public 60 days to comment. The comment period closes Dec. 14. So far, more than 8,000 people have gone online to give their views. Those who agree with the new evolution standards slightly outnumber those who oppose them, but there is a clear diversity of opinion.
Thanks Pauli-
Interesting. A bit nearer the bone that these newspaper jobs.
So- it is the case that with no scandal the books in the schools would be different. Why don't they toss up. The kids seem to be pawns in adult games to me.
Isn't it obvious that the talent required to manage children's education properly is rare and most unlikely to be found in the thousands of school boards where the numbers required more or less make it certain that they are average and given to vanity.
What's the pandasthumb link?
Thanks again.
wandeljw wrote:More on State Educator Opposed to New Florida Standards:
You just love doing this don't you
rosborne979 wrote:wandeljw wrote:More on State Educator Opposed to New Florida Standards:
You just love doing this don't you

... it never ends... it's a bottomless pit... an abyss...
It's the inevitable outcome of the wisdom of the ones who set in stone the separation of Church and State. They set in motion the dynamics of "circulating elites" on a level they could not have envisaged.
After all, the range of a man's voice in those days was limited to the length of a pasture and now it can reach the whole world, even in a gale. They took the technology of Europe for granted thinking that it grew on trees.
C.P. Snow wrote a book about "Two Cultures". And many others have tackled the issue. Burma is in the abyss.
Quote: Deputy Commissioner Lizzette Reynolds, quickly seized upon the e-mail
It should be on Mr Attenborough's Predator show. Seeing Ms Comer's eyes as she felt the first bite in her flanks would thrill millions.
Ross is, at least a hypocrit, and worst, a total fraud. The ID movement is loaded with frauds who get their degrees and then , after getting their ticket punched , (meekly appearing as commited scientists) they then toss their educations aside and lapse to their core beliefes.
When the Texas Ed Director of SCience was forced out because she didnt remain "neutral" about ID, that gives ID some unwarranted credibility, as if it were a "discipline of science" after all. DOVER may have to be tried all over again. This time theres a lot more financial stakes because of the massive buying power that Texas has. Im certain that reason will ultimately prevail because NCSE or some other organization (GSA, Assn, of Biology Teachers, AAPG, etc) cannot let this travesty continue.
Shall she reamin neutral about heliocentrism?
Quote:Shall she remain neutral about heliocentrism?
Here in the Pacific Northwest, we have no means to observe the sun. That it exists at all we attribute to rumor.
blatham, It really isn't a rumor about Portland sunshine.
Here are the annual averages of sunshine in Portland by month.
PERCENT POSSIBLE SUNSHINE
46 28 38 48 52 57 56 69 66 62 44 28 23 48
cicerone imposter wrote:blatham, It really isn't a rumor about Portland sunshine.
Here are the annual averages of sunshine in Portland by month.
PERCENT POSSIBLE SUNSHINE
46 28 38 48 52 57 56 69 66 62 44 28 23 48
Tourist bureau lies. There is no way that we have a 48% chance of experiencing sunlight on the 12th month.
blatham wrote:cicerone imposter wrote:blatham, It really isn't a rumor about Portland sunshine.
Here are the annual averages of sunshine in Portland by month.
PERCENT POSSIBLE SUNSHINE
46 28 38 48 52 57 56 69 66 62 44 28 23 48
Tourist bureau lies. There is no way that we have a 48% chance of experiencing sunlight on the 12th month.
there are 14 months listed?