Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?

Spendi wrote:


WOW!!! MULTIPLE doctorates, averages 24 posts a day for three years on this site alone, AND he's cleaning his oven! I keep telling setana you da' man, but he can't bring himself to admit it; poor jealous sod.

By the way, here in America when you're getting antipsychotic drugs prescribed from more than one doctor we usually just call that going to several doctors not having "doctorates."

But you go girl!

spendi: Call it neurotic if you like. It has nothing to do with me.


spendi doesn't admit or realize it yet, but he's a schizophrenic.

TCR--

You didn't ought to doctor poster's sentences in such a way as to substantially alter the meaning of them and then proceed to derive infantile conclusions from your own deviousness. That is a form of narcissism which is, of course, a quite dangerous condition.

Although I do bow to your superior knowledge regarding such things as "antipsychotic drugs", prescribings and "going to several doctors".

I prescribe my own pharmaceuticals.

c.i. wrote-



You really ought not to use technical terms c.i. that you evidently don't understand and nor should you use them in contexts where they are inappropriate. What happens when you habitually do that is that you very quickly become persona non grata in company, which forces you to travel to find new aquaintances with whom you can fluently discuss the food and drink in gushing terms and the glories of a new sunset and other such banalities which appear on the surface of life.

I don't declare people to be Babbits simply because they polish their shoes and don't eat with their elbows on the table.

It is well known in modern psychological circles that scientific theory-



Wilhelm Reich.

If one may assume that one has been granted permission to respond in kind one might say that the anti-ID Babbit is desperately clinging to these artificial notions in order to protect his little sharply circumscribed ego, the centre of the universe of course, from the undoubted chaos the universe presents to his senses and his idea of grandeur necessitates the constant experience of novel contactless sociability and exclusive preoccupation with his constipation and inferior potency.

Wilhelm Reich progressed in 20 years from the realm of psychology, where he began as a star pupil of Freud, to that of biology and thus foreshadowed the modern materialist theory of mind which moves the whole debate into the realm of chemistry and physics and ultimately into that of physics alone.

Are you recommending such an approach for the biology lessons in your schools or are you limiting the subject to those areas you are comfortable with personally? Which is serious Babbitry.

Or do you not know what I'm talking about, a convenience you allow yourself as an half-baked anti-IDer, in which case you really didn't ought to bandy around technical terms as gratuitously as you did.

And what evidence have you that I don't admit or realise that my acceptance of the chaos, a scientific conclusion derived from going in the same pub year after year every night of the week, something I gather anti-IDers avoid like the plague as it might upset their shallow and self-reassuring notions, implies that I lean to the schizophrenic end of the spectrum and away from the Babbit end. If we drew a line through the middle of that spectrum and allowed only the Babbit 50% to determine things we would quickly resemble a colony of ants and our many enemies would run rings around us.

And we would have no art or creativity and thus no intelligent design. Just a seemingly infinite arrangement of ping-pong assertions bouncing around without rhyme or reason like molecules in a balloon that has been blown up for a children's party and which goes "POP" when it's pricked.

Spendi, you are a hoot! You just leave the frogs standing!!! I just truncated your sentence I didn't change it. So just to be fair I'll admit you did add your contempt for the Nobel committee for overlooking you. It must be as painful as the babes constantly overlooking you at the pub. Who said life was fair?

You might be correct about some great design but I would submit your posts as evidence that if there is some great design it certainly could not be deemed Intelligent! No court in the world would rule against me.

By the way what language do you use in your posts? I've worked with a lot of U.K.'ers. And they don't talk like you. See, I didn't want you to think I had anything against the British, we don't just save your beer butts from the Germans every few decades we keep your businesses afloat in-between. And Bush is apparently fond of your lap dogs especially those mixed breads like the Bliar-Poodle or as bush calls them the Bloodle.

I can't figure out why Setena has such a problem with you, any ideas?

deviousness, narcissism, condition, "antipsychotic drugs", prescribings, schizophrenic, habitually, food and drink in gushing, surface of life.



It is well known in modern psychological circles that scientific theory-


Amen.

Vengo-

You are playing with words.
I used the word "Communism" in the generally accepted sense of that political system which appeared in Russia and which, I gather, has now been discarded. That system rejected God. Even Marx made no attempt to describe a society in which the fundamental principle of shared property was accepted. He saw it merely as a way of emancipating the lower classes from what were, in his time, the evils of Capitalism. One deludes oneself if one thinks in terms of blacks and whites. The action is in the grey area as my last post tried to explain. (Among other things.)

The real point is not evolution either. It is educating the next generation. The question is -has evolution theory a significant place in regard to that. I presume the supporters of the book only felt motivated to write what they did in response to an attempt to shove a half-baked bourgeois form of evolution theory into the kids some of whom will have 130+ IQs which is a lot more than those of the silly sods doing the shoving for attention seeking reasons.

All that discussion about CO2 is quite common currency. I don't see it as any reason to reach into the cliche toolbox for such pejoratives as "turnips" and "madrasses".

There are many problems with those paragraphs, I agree, from which I conclude that those with the responsibility for writing, editing, publishing and approving for classroom use should be cleaned out with a fire hose from the well paid positions they occupy.

I think Mr Dunford has just opened the book at random and copy/pasted the first thing he saw. wande has done the same.

What is a Science Blog. Is it a form of graffiti? Who is this Dunford chappie?

I don't think that all kings have besmirched the idea of God.

TCR- Thanks. Wise owls hoot.

You did not just truncate my sentence. You disinfected it of it's obvious self-deprecating irony, such as it was. You had me say the very opposite of what I had said. I consider that devious. At the least.

Had the "babes" constantly overlooked me in the pubs I would not have lived a life of such corruscating pain and strung out agony as I have done. I have had them clutching at my trouser legs on many occasions and pleading with those big wide dangerous eyes they can bring to bear at the drop of a £20 note and the sound of the roar of a six-cylinder E-Type.

Still- it's all behind me now and the feminism infections of today render it outside the ken of the modern young man. Seaside girls are something else. They thought feminism to be a male chauvinist trick to bind them hand and foot got up by flaccid editors with the help of a tiny number of career women who would write anything for money and fame.

There's nothing wrong with thinking that no court in the world would rule against you.

I didn't know that Settin' Ahh-aah had a problem with me. Maybe his standard of rhetoric not affecting me in the manner he has come to expect it to from his employment of it on Americans is the cause.

Have you read Geoff Gorer's book, The Americans. It explains it all and I am much more understanding of your condition now that I was before I read it. The Mumsie thing I mean. Something that couldn't be avoided given the social dynamics involved. It also explained this fond belief, so noticeable on here, to think anything one says is true on the evidence of one having said it. Mum of course believes anything her little darling tells her and the little darlings soon learn to bullshit under such conditions and bullshitting, as in your paragraph about saving us, becomes so habitual by the time you get hairs on your balls that eradicating it is tougher than stopping smoking and as it is not seen as life-threatening in most circumstances it just goes on and on and on with no end in sight.

When the educational system is run on business lines, as Thorstein Veblen proved your's is, such a factor is of paramount importance. Why study when one can just assert one is "brilliant" and get a video and a cap and gown etc off the college shelves at a price everyone can afford.

Mr Gorer tells of one family who moved into a reasonably "select" neighbourhood, not unlike Peyton Place I suppose, or Dover Pa, who noticed that every house had its curtains drawn back at night. So the lady of the house, not wishing to be different, kept her own curtains drawn back. Soon afterwards one of the ladies from nearby knocked on her door and told her that not only was her furniture inappropriate for the area but also that it was arranged incorrectly.

One can easily import some brains from outside for the tricky stuff.

Spendi don't ever change. By the way, you use your tongue better than a silver dollar Kansas City whore! corruscating (WOW) Just out of curiosity, are you always three sheets in the wind when you write your responses?

P.S. Don't worry we don't expect a thank you but will still be there for you next time the Germans come calling. Maybe if your cars had an electrical system that worked more than 10% of the time you could get troops to the front more quickly.

By the way, I'm still trying to learn the language so is your bravado about the women what could be termed "taking the piss?"

i/we know a girl,,, that preaches in church ~ that is ~so boring and uninteresting that the parishoners wish they were dead.


Amen.

I also know a few UKers, and their English doesn't sound anything like spendi's. Our next door neighbor is from England, both with PhDs, and a family member, an engineer, from London.

spendi is a hoot compared to all of them.

Yes spendi is one of a kind. I hear that France and England are constantly fighting over him. The English insist he is French and the French insist he is English. Its the first time in recorded history the French have refused to surrender.

ROFLMAO

What it is c.i. is that they are doing in Rome as Rome does. Being polite, probably slightly apprehensive you might say "Reach" if they're not.

I don't know what you find so impressive about PhDs. They are only novitate priests in the Church of Science. I've known a few. Not one of them had ever read Frank Harris and they used Shakespeare shamelessly as a badge of honour. Or bits of it. They hadn't read Rabelais nor Stendahl nor Flaubert. Not even Evelyn Waugh or Rider Haggard. Nor Proust. They wouldn't be able to understand it if they had. They sip their beer for phewk's sake. They are like fishes out of water when they are not PhDing. They lack umph never mind uuummmpphhh!!!!

TCR wrote-



I couldn't if I tried.



Nah- I'm more like an off-duty 2nd Engineer on the QE2 actually. Those SDKCWs have it easy. Just trilling a tongue tip at about two cycles / sec. up the corpora cavernosa and down the corpus spongiosum, twice round the meatus, along the frenulum wimple and activating the vas deferens with the fingernails in the scrotes when the time's up. Gore Vidal could do that in his prime I heard. No conundrums.

I put an extra "r" in coruscating to make it more French. More rough emery wheel so to speak. The MC in Palace of Varieties used to do it.

I only get uni-sheeted around midnight. (GMT).

The way we see WW2 is that we held things up single-handed until the Russians did Hitler in and then when we were exhausted you came in and looted our guts. A bit like those ringside ladies who start on the defeated wrestler with their handbags. With Nasser you bottled it thus causing the present grief.

We can all use words to make certain points.

You might say I take the piss out of certain women yes. More bottomless sacrcasm actually. The uppity types. The ones who are unable to utilise the massive advantage they are supposed to have and resort to legislation. Never out of ladies though. Ladies are all IDers. And it's a science alright.

I'm not...

But then some would say I'm no lady.

x

Around here, the only thing that coruscating applies to, is wit..

spendi wrote:


All I can say is coruscating point!

I had to look up the word " coruscating," because it's the first time I've seen it. Interestingly enough, I looked in the SYNOMYM FINDER, and found the word "coruscation" posted twice! LOL

I used "coruscating" in the sense of being on the end of somebody giving forth flashes of light; sparkle and glitter: diamonds coruscating in the candlelight.

It's an aspect of Relativity Theory. Whatever a Lady finds coruscating is coruscating by the simple logic of the exigencies of the case.

The point still stands that Communism doesn't reject God, communist Russia did.

I don't think all kings besmirched the name of God either, because not all kings claimed to take their authority directly from Him.

Recommended resource... http://www.nas.org/publications/sci_newslist/7_4/sci_insght74.pdf