Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?

"If the model proposed by Darwin is not considered sufficient, one should search for another one," Fiorenzo Facchini, a professor of evolutionary biology at the University of Bologna, wrote in the Jan. 16-17 edition of the paper, L'Osservatore Romano.

"But it is not correct from a methodological point of view to stray from the field of science while pretending to do science," he wrote. "It only creates confusion between the scientific plane and those that are philosophical or religious."

Setanta-

I have already told you my opinion of Tacitus.

Your lengthy post is elementary.It hides the being streams with which I concern myself behind a pedantic description of a very small number of carefully chosen incidents mostly of little account.It is inhuman.It is almost like playing with toy soldiers.There was no endings or beginnings.There is continuous becoming.Blocking it all off into compartments might make it all easier to satisfy a non-critical understanding but that has nothing to do with me.The Merovingian and Gothic mindsets are still alive in many parts of the world as are those of other cultural manifestations.

The basic characteristics of a religion don't lie in its doctrines and rituals.Those are decorations.One might just as easily say that a house is made of wallpaper.The character of a religion lies in the specific spirituality of the men who adopt it and speak and feel and think within it as a way of coping with the world they are in.A modern American city dweller hasn't the remotest chance of understanding Classical times.He can only gawp at its residues.

The scientific mindset is a religion.It is one which must needs define the USA as an agglomeration of 280 million lonely microcosms under the control of feared regulations and persuasion techniques of a psychological character playing on the loneliness and offering false palliatives for it.

The language itself carries of necessity the whole metaphysical content of the Culture and it shifts from moment to moment as the Culture shifts likewise.That is why languages are defended so vigourously and why new styles are developed by such things as street gangs or certain professions.Foucault will clue you in on the latter.

To mention Spengler-he says (1920) that it is an impossibility that the dogmatic advance of Faustian Christianity can continue in America."Whatever disconnects itself from the land becomes rigid and hard."

Maybe there is the root of the dispute.I'm a country boy in tune with nature's rhythms.No need to get overexcited about it then.Just cultural incongruence.Can't you deal with the other side without resorting to bluster,insult and assertion.They are signs of intolerance.

The fragmentation of religion in America brings discredit on Religion but it is going to be a long haul to remove it and restore proper authority and one can but hope that it will one day come about.

-it never matters to you that you make no sense with them

Mailer, Flaubert, Stendhal, Rabelais, Ovid, Frank Harris and Umberto Eco--not an historian among them--but certainly no shortage of gasbags. No wonder you like them.

Setanta wrote:

Mailer, Flaubert, Stendhal, Rabelais, Ovid, Frank Harris and Umberto Eco--not an historian among them--but certainly no shortage of gasbags. No wonder you like them.

Some self-styled Historians are gasbags as well.

But in one of its meanings theocracy is a form of government ruled by men guided by God.I understood you already have that.

I have no interest in Aristotle or Plato.Fossils of the mind.But I realise that when people trot their names out it can make them seem educated,and thus superior,to those of a nervous disposition.

Some self-styled Historians are gasbags as well.

Kentucky Group vs. Intelligent Design
(By Patrick Crowley, Cincinnati Enquirer, January 8, 2006)
A statewide organization of science teachers and researchers will oppose moves by Kentucky lawmakers to mandate the teaching of intelligent design in public school science classes.
The Kentucky Academy of Science, headed by Northern Kentucky University biology professor Miriam Steinitz Kannan, voted unanimously last week "to oppose any attempt by legislative bodies to mandate specific content of science courses," the 700-member organization said in a statement.
"The (academy) objects to attempts to equate 'scientific creationism' or 'intelligent design' with evolution as a scientific explanation of events," the academy said. "KAS members believe the content of science courses taught in public schools in Kentucky should be determined by the standards of the scientific community."
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The academy, which is based at the University of Kentucky, said intelligent design is not a scientifically tested theory.
"Science involves a continuing systematic inquiry into the manifold aspects of the biological and physical world," the academy said. "It is based upon testable theories, which may change with new data; it cannot include interpretations based on faith. Teaching faith-based models implies that these views are equivalent alternatives among scientists. These models mislead students as to what is considered the scientific method."
The academy said it "respects" religious beliefs and viewpoints "but objects to attempts to require any religious teachings as science in public schools."

The Kentucky Academy of Science, headed by Northern Kentucky University biology professor Miriam Steinitz Kannan, voted unanimously last week "to oppose any attempt by legislative bodies to mandate specific content of science courses,"