Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?

A major function of Science is to unravel the profound complexity of Nature; the principal function of ID is just to explain it away as the creation of a being that's more mysterious than Nature. Let's demystify Nature, not just replace its mystery with another.

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spendius wrote:

What has the single impulse for mindless,progressive knowledge through the senses,knowledge arrested and ending in the senses, with mystic knowledge in disintegration and dissolution,to say about deep ways of feeling which enter every aspect of life and relationships?

I often ask this question. Usually in the pub, when its my round. Smile

You know Spendy you aint boring, thats for sure. What do you think of Brian Sewell?

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Steve wrote-

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Spendi can I just ask, are you frightened of women? I mean they frighten me, especially at the wheel of a 4*4 on the 500m school run with phone in one hand and kids running riot in the back. But with you I get the impression its more personal, like every woman is after you to suck out your vital energy.

They scare me into hiding mate.I know them.I keep my eye on them on behalf of the young lads who are,by definition,incapable themselves.I use scientific observation.
They will suck you as dry as an old bone in the Sahara Desert at noon if they get the chance.Wouldn't you in their position.Go with it if you like.It's a free country.
The end of Religion will unleash them like banshees and they are halfway already.

I find it hilarious both in the pub where it's in my face and on here.Men helping.Digging their own pit.
Did you never see WC Fields or Laurel and Hardy?
Ever read Strindberg?Ibsen?Flaubert?Shakespeare?
We are really talking about illiteracy.Tolstoy?Lawrence?,both Millers?Shampoo?Eastwick?Oh-the list is endless.

But the pub is the worst.You get the gory detail.And so consistent the probability merges with science.

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You know Spendy you aint boring, thats for sure. What do you think of Brian Sewell?

Never heard of him I'm afraid.Does he write for a tabloid or appear on Lady TV (ITV and BBC1)

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Bernie wrote-

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- ID is creationism covertly re-labeled (coincident with the SC decision)
- board members quite happy to lie (for a greater jesus-truth)
- ID is theology, and not science (testability, minus any peer review)
- teaching ID violates the constitutional separation of church/state

Indisputable.All four.Just minor matters though.

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spendius wrote:

Does he write for a tabloid or appear on Lady TV (ITV and BBC1)

Just occasionally Spend, I get an insight as to where you are coming form. Where are you coming from?

Lady TV- like it. Its true btw. Its TV of, run by, presented by, and consumed by Ladies. And that includes little Britain.

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spendi

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They must say that art is merely "autonomous sensation."They must say that "feeling" cannot be taught.Indeed that there is no such thing absolutely but only something which can be structured by chemicals and to order.

It ain't, as Ira Gerswin said, necessarily so.

That is, it doesn't really matter whether my experience of subjective existance derives from a confluence of granite and nerves cells which facilitate the emergence of the property of 'amness' or whether it arrived via a divine hypodermic, it is subjectively true or real. I am.

That "I amness" is as unlikely yet as factual in either case. And it is certainly no less enjoyable (when it is) regardless of origin.

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And it does my head in.

Not the TV.It's quite amusing.It's the chaps falling for it that does it.I heard about one guy drive 15 miles through heavy traffic and his wife announced that she had forgotten her mobile phone and what would she do if anybody wanted her so he drove back home and they couldn't find it in the house and then it turned up on the back seat of the SUV.(They all have SUVs to assert their masculinity.)And he sympathised with her which I suppose is understandable seeing as how they were only going to a certain garden centre which had a lovely garden gnome which had caught her eye on a previous visit to get some cane furniture for the conservatory (the lean to).And it was all reasonable and quite acceptable and quite funny and was the subject of conversation for a while until it got surpassed.Which wasn't long.

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I sometimes read your posts outloud with a Manchester accent. You often sound like an episode of Fawlty Towers.

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Bernie wrote-

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That "I amness" is as unlikely yet as factual in either case. And it is certainly no less enjoyable (when it is) regardless of origin.

One of Tolstoy's male categories is the officer type (Vronsky)."For Vronsky love is like the life of an officer:vigorous,assertive,attuned in the end to the willingness to kill."With your uniform as evidence is that a fair picture of your "amness" which of course applies to all other aspects of life.

I'm more like Karenin.Love is an official institution to be viewed solely in social terms although I can do Stiva when the situation requires which is a form of business negotiation and includes confidence tricks or anything else that works apart from force.

Anna wants straight passion.

There are types of "amness".It is how they are derived that is interesting.

In Lady "amnesses" there's the tender hand that rocks the cradle at one end and Ms Collins et al with the threatening heels and accoutrements at the other.(Well in public I mean-she appeared not so long ago at a reception with two young men with the knees of their jeans worn right through.)
Imagine a graph showing the popularity of these two types over the last 100 years.It would look like a cross in an OXO game I'm afraid.

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spendi

Two female friends (one had been a long term lover and the other a friend since school) recently saw cause to insist I had more "female" in me than any other men they knew. It was a bit confusing to me though making some kind of sense, but I knew it was meant as a rather deep compliment and so I gathered it to my bosom for reference on those colder winter nights.

Say you found yourself walking through the landscape of an Arthurian tale and the inevitable magical witch offered you the possibility of being a female for, say, a week or a night. Would you take her up on the offer?

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You have caught me at egress.

I'll endevour to respond later but I must warn you that I'll be slightly pissed and thus not make much sense.

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How do you assert that will differ from any of your other posts?

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Drink exactly twice as much. That might do the trick.

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I was kinda hoping that intelligent design would become common course work in the public schools, I was looking forward to reading the text.

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For every science question, the anwswer is ID. The book will have only two pages. The question about science on the first page, and the second page will state "Intelligent Design."

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NO pictures of angels?

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That'll be on the front cover.

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Bernie wrote from his lonely fastness-

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Say you found yourself walking through the landscape of an Arthurian tale and the inevitable magical witch offered you the possibility of being a female for, say, a week or a night. Would you take her up on the offer?

By the time I got to the pub I had decided that the best thing to do was to put the question to my National Executive Committee.

The unanimous answer was "that's disgusting".

They all have daughters.

But I thought that's too facile.Superficial even.

But then it struck me that it probably was unless I could determine the conditions under which I might be persuaded to fancy spemding a night as a female.

This exercised my mind and I scrolled through a quite alarming range of possibilities but I came to the conclusion that I might be prepared to give it a try if I could be a young lady with big tits and some dimples who had just taken up a position as the tea lady where Buckingham Palace stables and coach facilty are located or if I was stranded on a tropical desert island for half an hour before a platoon of RCMP arrived to rescue me and their emergency radio was dead.

As long as I could be out of it in 24 hrs I would give either of those two a go if only in the interests of scientific research.A week seems a bit extreme.

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At the right time of the month of course.

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